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How Religious Freedom Became A Rightwing Assault On The Rule Of Law

Hugo Furst

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I am struck, more frequently than ever, by how many posts from right wingers reflect the opposite of the truth. Which I attribute to the Orwellian style deceit Trumpery is founded on.
I am struck, more frequently than ever, by how many posts from right wingers reflect the opposite of the truth.

Your truth?

You're too partisan to understand the real truth.
 

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Your truth?

You're too partisan to understand the real truth.
His utter stupidity might have just a little something to do with that, too, don't you think?
 

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This thread is dildos.....It started retarded and went down hill from there with every leftist remark.
 

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Religious freedom has long been a shield. It is this right that all Americans possess, and the words etched into the edifice of the Supreme Court tell us, "Equal justice under law." This right applies equally to all of us. It was supported by a strong separation of church and state, but not anymore.

There is a well-funded powerful network of Christian nationalist organizations and judges that are working to weaponize the First Amendment, to turn the protection of religious freedom enjoyed by all of us into a weapon of Christian privilege for the few. The crusaders' religious freedom challenges are superficially about things like Christian crosses and veterans or playgrounds or private school vouchers or bakeries and gay weddings, but really they're about religious privilege, often literally about privileging religion over non-religion, Christianity over other religions and the right kind of conservative Christians over other Christians. At its most basic level, they are trying to turn religious freedom into a weapon to reclaim and entrench their lost status as the dominant caste in American society.

As Seidel notes, 150 years ago the Supreme Court warned that weaponized religious freedom would "permit every citizen to become a law unto himself," so there's much more at stake here than "just" the First Amendment.


"permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"

I guess those "originalists" just conveniently ignored that part of the original intent.
I still haven't found any mention of abortion in the Constitution.
 

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Religious freedom has long been a shield. It is this right that all Americans possess, and the words etched into the edifice of the Supreme Court tell us, "Equal justice under law." This right applies equally to all of us. It was supported by a strong separation of church and state, but not anymore.

There is a well-funded powerful network of Christian nationalist organizations and judges that are working to weaponize the First Amendment, to turn the protection of religious freedom enjoyed by all of us into a weapon of Christian privilege for the few. The crusaders' religious freedom challenges are superficially about things like Christian crosses and veterans or playgrounds or private school vouchers or bakeries and gay weddings, but really they're about religious privilege, often literally about privileging religion over non-religion, Christianity over other religions and the right kind of conservative Christians over other Christians. At its most basic level, they are trying to turn religious freedom into a weapon to reclaim and entrench their lost status as the dominant caste in American society.

As Seidel notes, 150 years ago the Supreme Court warned that weaponized religious freedom would "permit every citizen to become a law unto himself," so there's much more at stake here than "just" the First Amendment.


"permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"

I guess those "originalists" just conveniently ignored that part of the original intent.
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I am struck, more frequently than ever, by how many posts from right wingers reflect the opposite of the truth. Which I attribute to the Orwellian style deceit Trumpery is founded on.
You type words that make no sense.
You need to post a link with your typing so we know WTF you are whining about.
 

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Religious freedom has long been a shield. It is this right that all Americans possess, and the words etched into the edifice of the Supreme Court tell us, "Equal justice under law." This right applies equally to all of us. It was supported by a strong separation of church and state, but not anymore.

There is a well-funded powerful network of Christian nationalist organizations and judges that are working to weaponize the First Amendment, to turn the protection of religious freedom enjoyed by all of us into a weapon of Christian privilege for the few. The crusaders' religious freedom challenges are superficially about things like Christian crosses and veterans or playgrounds or private school vouchers or bakeries and gay weddings, but really they're about religious privilege, often literally about privileging religion over non-religion, Christianity over other religions and the right kind of conservative Christians over other Christians. At its most basic level, they are trying to turn religious freedom into a weapon to reclaim and entrench their lost status as the dominant caste in American society.

As Seidel notes, 150 years ago the Supreme Court warned that weaponized religious freedom would "permit every citizen to become a law unto himself," so there's much more at stake here than "just" the First Amendment.


"permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"

I guess those "originalists" just conveniently ignored that part of the original intent.
Now this is some funny stuff right there! :D
Highly recommend reading through this... you will laugh your ass off.
Holy Cow
 

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Religious freedom has long been a shield. It is this right that all Americans possess, and the words etched into the edifice of the Supreme Court tell us, "Equal justice under law." This right applies equally to all of us. It was supported by a strong separation of church and state, but not anymore.

There is a well-funded powerful network of Christian nationalist organizations and judges that are working to weaponize the First Amendment, to turn the protection of religious freedom enjoyed by all of us into a weapon of Christian privilege for the few. The crusaders' religious freedom challenges are superficially about things like Christian crosses and veterans or playgrounds or private school vouchers or bakeries and gay weddings, but really they're about religious privilege, often literally about privileging religion over non-religion, Christianity over other religions and the right kind of conservative Christians over other Christians. At its most basic level, they are trying to turn religious freedom into a weapon to reclaim and entrench their lost status as the dominant caste in American society.

As Seidel notes, 150 years ago the Supreme Court warned that weaponized religious freedom would "permit every citizen to become a law unto himself," so there's much more at stake here than "just" the First Amendment.


"permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"

I guess those "originalists" just conveniently ignored that part of the original intent.
Lefttard opinion piece from Rawsewage.
 

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It's funny.
Virtue Signaling IS a religion.
They are just too stupid to not notice
 

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You wingers just gotta wing with the rest of your flock, I guess.
Thank you for that brilliant, thoughtful and well researched disertation on constitutional law, history, and the role of theology in secular society. Clearly you are a brilliant commentator and author with advanced degrees from the finest instituions of higher learning in numerous fields including constitutional law, early American history, theology and philosophy. As always, you raise the bar on the level of intellecual discourse on the USMB. May the Gods and Gossesses bless you always
 
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So for over 200 years a business could refuse to serve anyone, but pass a law and you now have a "right" to force me to surrender to your perverted wishes. I don't think so. That's not my America. Fuck you.
 

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Thank you for that brilliant, thoughtful and well researched disertation on constitutional law, history, and the role of theology in secular society. Clearly you are a brilliant commentator and author with advanced degrees from the finest instituions of higher learning in numerous fields including constitutional law, early American history, theology and philosophy. As always, you rais the bar on the level of intellecual discourse on the USMB. May the Gods and Gossesses bless you always
Thank God for USMB, for it gives illiterate boobs like you a place to run your stupid mouths, pretty much for as long as you want to!
 

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Tolerance, diversity, religious freedom, free speech, and equality have two entirely different meanings for the leftists.
They get them, but differing opinions need to be silenced and shut down. Not going to happen, so deal with it.

The fucking OP posts a link that lies about the R v W decision, then extrapolates.
There is no where in the Constitution that makes abortion a Federal authority, therefore it is a STATE responsibility, period.
Two meanings of religious freedom/liberty:
1. Freedom of belief, speech, practice.
2. Freedom to restrict services, hate, denigrate, or oppress others.


1. The historical meaning of religious freedom:

This term relates to the personal freedom:
•Of religious belief,
•Of religious speech,
•Of religious assembly with fellow believers,
•Of religious proselytizing and recruitment, and
•To change one's religion from one faith group to another -- or to decide to have no religious affiliation -- or vice-versa.


The individual believer has often been the target of oppression for thinking or speaking unorthodox thoughts, for assembling with and recruiting others, and for changing their religious affiliation. Typically, the aggressors have been large religious groups and governments. Freedom from such oppression is the meaning that we generally use on this web site to refer to any of the four terms: religious freedom, religious liberty, freedom of worship and freedom to worship.

2. A rapidly emerging new meaning of religious freedom: the freedom to discriminate and denigrate:

In recent years, religious freedom is taking on a new meaning: the freedom and liberty of a believer apply their religious beliefs in order to hate, oppress, deny service to, denigrate, discriminate against, and/or reduce the human rights of minorities.

Now, the direction of the oppression has reversed. It is now the believer who is the oppressor -- typically fundamentalist and evangelical Christians and other religious conservatives. Others -- typically some women, as well as sexual, and other minorities -- are the targets. This new meaning is becoming increasingly common. It appears that this change is begin driven by a number of factors:

•The increasing public acceptance of women's use of birth control/contraceptives. This is a practice regarded as a personal decision by most faith groups, but is actively opposed by the Roman Catholic and a few other conservative faith groups.

•The increasing public acceptance of equal rights for sexual minorities including Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgender persons and transsexuals -- the LGBT community (); and

•The increasing percentage of NOTAs in North America. These are individuals who are NOT Affiliated with an organized faith group. Some identify themselves as Agnostics, Atheists secularists, Humanists, free thinkers, etc. Others say that they are spiritual, but not religious.


One interesting feature of this "religious freedom to discriminate" is that it generally has people treating others as they would not wish to be treated themselves. It seems to be little noticed among those who practice or advocate "religious freedom to discriminate" that this way of treating people is a direct contradiction to the Golden Rule, which Jesus required all his followers to practice. See Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31, and the Gospel of Thomas, 6.

Source: Religious freedom & the freedom to discriminate
 

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Thank God for USMB, for it gives illiterate boobs like you a place to run your stupid mouths, pretty much for as long as you want to!
See post 37 and see if you can muster up a few brain cells to formulate a meaningful response
 

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Religious freedom has long been a shield. It is this right that all Americans possess, and the words etched into the edifice of the Supreme Court tell us, "Equal justice under law." This right applies equally to all of us. It was supported by a strong separation of church and state, but not anymore.

There is a well-funded powerful network of Christian nationalist organizations and judges that are working to weaponize the First Amendment, to turn the protection of religious freedom enjoyed by all of us into a weapon of Christian privilege for the few. The crusaders' religious freedom challenges are superficially about things like Christian crosses and veterans or playgrounds or private school vouchers or bakeries and gay weddings, but really they're about religious privilege, often literally about privileging religion over non-religion, Christianity over other religions and the right kind of conservative Christians over other Christians. At its most basic level, they are trying to turn religious freedom into a weapon to reclaim and entrench their lost status as the dominant caste in American society.

As Seidel notes, 150 years ago the Supreme Court warned that weaponized religious freedom would "permit every citizen to become a law unto himself," so there's much more at stake here than "just" the First Amendment.


"permit every citizen to become a law unto himself"

I guess those "originalists" just conveniently ignored that part of the original intent.


You might want to read the first 5 words of the 1st Amendment. What you fucking communist are demanding is that congress establish a national religion of secular humanism. Which has been the goal of every socialist/marxist government that has ever existed. The destruction of faith, morals and family is your only path to total control. So just FOAD you commie bastard, we ain't buying your propaganda.

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