How much do extremely wealthy people owe to the society that gave them the chance to prosper so much?

[Cecilie1200]

There are lots of reason it may kill us. It would have as much regard for us as we have for an ant hill. Do you know anyone who hesitates about mowing over an anthill?

Maybe it will want to protect us.

Probably in the same way you leftists do. Thanks, but I don't fancy being a pet or a slave.

 

[Cecilie1200]

thats not logical when we only take from the planet and never give back,,,

If it took control it would probably stop us from destroying the planet. We kind of need it.

exactly,, and the only way to protect the planet is to get rid of us,,

And frankly, even if one wished to protect us, WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

 

[Anomalism]

WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

Yep.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats not logical when we only take from the planet and never give back,,,

If it took control it would probably stop us from destroying the planet. We kind of need it.

exactly,, and the only way to protect the planet is to get rid of us,,

And frankly, even if one wished to protect us, WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

thats not protection thats control,,

 

[hadit]

poor boy

I will never understand poor people that support the Republicans.

You might if you ever stooped to actually talking to them.

Poor people who support the Republican Party don’t realize all the things democrats do for them. I know two people on disability who voted for trump. Even when I told them he would make cuts to Medicaid. Or my neighbor who has $100,000 in student loan debt. She liked trumps anti immigrant position.

And don’t forget trump gave them a very small tax break so in their minds they are doing better under Trump.

IOW, they don't let money concerns drive every decision they make. Some people are like that, you know.

They don’t realize the gop is screwing them financially. Trickle down since the 80s has failed the middle class.

Poor republicans have been duped by social wedge issues. God, guns, gays and racism.

Obviously they value freedom over cash handouts. Here's a clue. If democrats wouldn't try to compel conformity of thought, their Santa Claus act might actually catch on with more people.

 

[Cecilie1200]

that is optimistic,,,

maybe you should stop reading comic books and thinking they are real life,,,

Science fiction often becomes real life.

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

 

[sealybobo]

poor boy

I will never understand poor people that support the Republicans.

You might if you ever stooped to actually talking to them.

Poor people who support the Republican Party don’t realize all the things democrats do for them. I know two people on disability who voted for trump. Even when I told them he would make cuts to Medicaid. Or my neighbor who has $100,000 in student loan debt. She liked trumps anti immigrant position.

And don’t forget trump gave them a very small tax break so in their minds they are doing better under Trump.

IOW, they don't let money concerns drive every decision they make. Some people are like that, you know.

They don’t realize the gop is screwing them financially. Trickle down since the 80s has failed the middle class.

Poor republicans have been duped by social wedge issues. God, guns, gays and racism.

Obviously they value freedom over cash handouts. Here's a clue. If democrats wouldn't try to compel conformity of thought, their Santa Claus act might actually catch on with more people.

It’s true what you say. Rednecks in the backwoods of Kentucky have no dental or healthcare. But they are free and happy. Love their guns, Christianity, hate gays blacks mexicans and Muslims. The Republican Party doesn’t have to benefit them financially. Democratic policies benefit them and yet they still vote republican.

 

[progressive hunter]

that is optimistic,,,

maybe you should stop reading comic books and thinking they are real life,,,

Science fiction often becomes real life.

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

if I'm not mistaken its everytime,,

 

[sealybobo]

that is optimistic,,,

maybe you should stop reading comic books and thinking they are real life,,,

Science fiction often becomes real life.

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t.

Its like global warming. The only evidence you’ll accept is the end of the world. But then it’s too late.

 

[progressive hunter]

poor boy

I will never understand poor people that support the Republicans.

You might if you ever stooped to actually talking to them.

Poor people who support the Republican Party don’t realize all the things democrats do for them. I know two people on disability who voted for trump. Even when I told them he would make cuts to Medicaid. Or my neighbor who has $100,000 in student loan debt. She liked trumps anti immigrant position.

And don’t forget trump gave them a very small tax break so in their minds they are doing better under Trump.

IOW, they don't let money concerns drive every decision they make. Some people are like that, you know.

They don’t realize the gop is screwing them financially. Trickle down since the 80s has failed the middle class.

Poor republicans have been duped by social wedge issues. God, guns, gays and racism.

Obviously they value freedom over cash handouts. Here's a clue. If democrats wouldn't try to compel conformity of thought, their Santa Claus act might actually catch on with more people.

It’s true what you say. Rednecks in the backwoods of Kentucky have no dental or healthcare. But they are free and happy. Love their guns, Christianity, hate gays blacks mexicans and Muslims. The Republican Party doesn’t have to benefit them financially. Democratic policies benefit them and yet they still vote republican.

then take them away and let them live by their own means,,, teach them a lesson,,

 

[progressive hunter]

that is optimistic,,,

maybe you should stop reading comic books and thinking they are real life,,,

Science fiction often becomes real life.

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t.

Its like global warming. The only evidence you’ll accept is the end of the world. But then it’s too late.

rather die free han live on my knees,,

and how are tax credits going to save the planet??

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why do you assume it will have good intentions?

Because I think humanity is good, and I think the mechanical God we build will be good too.

Spoken like someone who has experienced very little of humanity in any firsthand way.

Humanity has the capacity to do and be good. We aren't innately good by any stretch of the imagination. The Apostle Paul described human nature very accurately: "For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing." (NIV)

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why would you assume that? Even if we are good, that doesn't mean we can force an AI to be good.

Maybe we will build some of our good into it. Maybe it will have its own sense of morality.

What sense of morality would that be? Last time I checked, humans couldn't even agree that objective morality exists, or what it is if it does.

 

[Cecilie1200]

thats not logical when we only take from the planet and never give back,,,

If it took control it would probably stop us from destroying the planet. We kind of need it.

exactly,, and the only way to protect the planet is to get rid of us,,

And frankly, even if one wished to protect us, WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

thats not protection thats control,,

Who said the two were mutually exclusive? Are leftists not constantly trying to "protect" people by treating them like exhibits in the zoo? Are they not now trying to "protect" us from Covid-19 by forcing us all to give up our lives and independence and isolate into our individual cages, otherwise known as our homes?

 

[Cecilie1200]

that is optimistic,,,

maybe you should stop reading comic books and thinking they are real life,,,

Science fiction often becomes real life.

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

if I'm not mistaken its everytime,,

Not to mention extraterrestrials, supernatural beings . . . it's a common cliché of fiction that any advanced lifeform outside of humanity would have a hard time understanding any value to humanity continuing to exist.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats not logical when we only take from the planet and never give back,,,

If it took control it would probably stop us from destroying the planet. We kind of need it.

exactly,, and the only way to protect the planet is to get rid of us,,

And frankly, even if one wished to protect us, WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

thats not protection thats control,,

Who said the two were mutually exclusive? Are leftists not constantly trying to "protect" people by treating them like exhibits in the zoo? Are they not now trying to "protect" us from Covid-19 by forcing us all to give up our lives and independence and isolate into our individual cages, otherwise known as our homes?

neither are they inclusive,, its a matter of personal perspective,,

 

[Cecilie1200]

thats not logical when we only take from the planet and never give back,,,

If it took control it would probably stop us from destroying the planet. We kind of need it.

exactly,, and the only way to protect the planet is to get rid of us,,

And frankly, even if one wished to protect us, WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

thats not protection thats control,,

Who said the two were mutually exclusive? Are leftists not constantly trying to "protect" people by treating them like exhibits in the zoo? Are they not now trying to "protect" us from Covid-19 by forcing us all to give up our lives and independence and isolate into our individual cages, otherwise known as our homes?

neither are they inclusive,, its a matter of personal perspective,,

I wasn't aware that I was arguing they are inclusive.

 

[progressive hunter]

thats not logical when we only take from the planet and never give back,,,

If it took control it would probably stop us from destroying the planet. We kind of need it.

exactly,, and the only way to protect the planet is to get rid of us,,

And frankly, even if one wished to protect us, WE tend to be the thing from which we need protection the most.

thats not protection thats control,,

Who said the two were mutually exclusive? Are leftists not constantly trying to "protect" people by treating them like exhibits in the zoo? Are they not now trying to "protect" us from Covid-19 by forcing us all to give up our lives and independence and isolate into our individual cages, otherwise known as our homes?

neither are they inclusive,, its a matter of personal perspective,,

I wasn't aware that I was arguing they are inclusive.

I wasnt aware I was arguing they are exclusive,,

its all a matter of personal perspective,,
one persons protection is another persons control,, just take seatbelts for an example,,

 

[Anomalism]

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

I think humans have a negativity bias with the unknown.

 

[progressive hunter]

And how often has science fiction predicted that a true AI would view humanity as a virus to be eradicated?

I think humans have a negativity bias with the unknown.

and that comes from your many decades of experience in the real world where you had to take care of yourself and provide for others,,,