How much do extremely wealthy people owe to the society that gave them the chance to prosper so much?

[Cecilie1200]

Like I said, you know very, very little about Hitler, and left wing nationalism in general.

If you say so.

You just proved him correct, you know.

 

[bripat9643]

They also give a lot of money and time, to charity.

As tax shelters.

who cares as long as they are paying it,,

anytime the people get more and the government gets less is a good thing,,

Except that isn't how it works out. There pay less, the government gets less, and the people they don't pay a living wage to get less to make up for it.

as long as the government gets less there is more for the company to pay employees,,

But they don't. The government's job is to protect it's people, even if what they need protected from is greedy corporations and billionaires.

their job is to protect our rights not our jobs or paychecks,,,

youre thinking of fascist or communist countries,,,

Really? Did you forget "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"?

Who's stopping you from pursuing happiness - other than government, that is?

 

[Cecilie1200]

In other words, you have no answer.

It would take some real thought and effort to accurately express my views on that matter. I have no reason to believe you won't just disappoint me if I put forth that much effort.

"You're not worth the effort of explaining myself" is also another way of saying you can't answer.

Strike two.

 

[Anomalism]

People who can, do.

That's not always true. There's no reason for me to not utilize the advantages my family has given me.

 

[Slade3200]

You’ve apparently made it your problem.

Nope. Your poor education is your burden.

Im srory yuo aer havnig a hrad tmie undrestnading me. I wlil tyr to do bteter.

Never go full retard.

I’m not feeling a burden. I’m not writing essays here. I type quickly on my phone and don’t proofread before sending. Something I need to get better at. Has nothing to do with education, it’s just me being sloppy and careless, but let’s keep talking about that strawman now... anything to avoid the actual topic which seems well out of your depth.

 

[Anomalism]

"You're not worth the effort of explaining myself" is also another way of saying you can't answer.

Strike two.

All you do is insult and belittle me. You're not getting more effort from me, sorry.

 

[bripat9643]

I far prefer to live under a monarchy

A lot of right wingers give me that impression.

That's because they know we were far freer under the monarchy than under this STalinist people's republic we all suffer under.

 

[Anomalism]

That's because they know we were far freer under the monarchy than under this STalinist people's republic we all suffer under.

So you're on the record saying you prefer monarchy over what we do right now?

 

[bripat9643]

That's because they know we were far freer under the monarchy than under this STalinist people's republic we all suffer under.

So you're on the record saying you prefer monarchy over what we do right now?

Yes. I've said a number of times previously in this forum. I'm no fan of democracy, if you haven't already guessed.

 

[westwall]

Like I said, you know very, very little about Hitler, and left wing nationalism in general.

If you say so.

YOU demonstrate it with every post.

 

[Anomalism]

Yes. I've said a number of times previously in this forum. I'm no fan of democracy, if you haven't already guessed.

I do get frustrated with how slow and useless democracy can be. I'm not sure I'm ready to bring back kings, though.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No, you didn't. Will you answer the question I asked you?

Your question was too vague to be answered.
Will you answer mine?

How about you? Adult enough to be paying your own way in life?

I could make it on my own in the world if I needed to. Your question is just an attempt to belittle me more with something that's ultimately irrelevant here. You're digging for ammunition, or at least that's my perception of things.

Or you think you could, anyway. His question is making a point, which you seem determined not to hear: you're trying to lecture us on a reality we actually live in, and you don't. The entire premise of this thread is your idea that wealthy people "owe society" for their success. Every single person disagreeing with you here has held down a full-time job and paid taxes for years on end. Have you?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I far prefer to live under a monarchy

A lot of right wingers give me that impression.

Oh? How many right-wingers do you actually even know?

 

[westwall]

In other words, you have no answer.

It would take some real thought and effort to accurately express my views on that matter. I have no reason to believe you won't just disappoint me if I put forth that much effort.

Oh, based on your answers we do have, and your purposeful vagueness on others, I think we have a pretty good idea of what you views, and values are.

 

[Orangecat]

That's not always true. There's no reason for me to not utilize the advantages my family has given me.

Experience and perspective are fine reasons. It's easy to dismiss your views on responsibility when you admit to having little to none. The subsidized usually support each other.

 

[Orangecat]

I’m not feeling a burden.

Of course not, ignorance being bliss and such.

 

[Anomalism]

Or you think you could, anyway. His question is making a point, which you seem determined not to hear: you're trying to lecture us on a reality we actually live in, and you don't. The entire premise of this thread is your idea that wealthy people "owe society" for their success. Every single person disagreeing with you here has held down a full-time job and paid taxes for years on end. Have you?

Your point isn't as relevant as you think it is in this conversation.

 

[Anomalism]

Oh, based on your answers we do have, and your purposeful vagueness on others, I think we have a pretty good idea of what you views, and values are.

That's fine.

 

[Anomalism]

It's easy to dismiss your views on responsibility when you admit to having little to none.

It would be easy for you to dismiss my views regardless of my background.

 

[Anomalism]

Oh? How many right-wingers do you actually even know?

I've met and known quite a few actually.