How long should the so-called oath keepers have to go to jail for? what about the BLM rioters?

[Delldude]

Nope 100% fact came up in court cases multiple times and admitted by multiple scum bag s like you.

So where's the proof?

 

[jbander]

Time to bury this scum ball

Damage and debris left in U.S. Capitol after attack​

The Jan. 6 breach left the historic building littered and damaged, with broken glass, debris, pro-Trump gear and flags inside the Capitol after the attack. Participants smeared blood and feces around the building as well.

On the Architect of the Capitol's website, employee Ricardo Mitchell described the damage workers cleaned up after police cleared the Capitol.

"Once they got everything under control, we had to come back in the building and clean up the mess, because the Members were going to return to finish voting," he said. "We had to go into the chambers and prepare them so they would be able to come back."

Fact check: Photo shows U.S. Capitol cleanup after rioters left American flag among debris

A viral photo shows a flag in a bin amid U.S. Capitol riot debris; its fate is uncertain. But the image's caption needs more context.

www.usatoday.com

 

[jbander]

Yeah.............hearsay........no physical proof....................like i said, J6 would have had a field day with proof.

What do i have now 6 sources how many do you have , yup zero just you lying word.. We have your number , scum is scum and you can't get past that.

 

[Delldude]

Time to bury this scum ball

Damage and debris left in U.S. Capitol after attack​

The Jan. 6 breach left the historic building littered and damaged, with broken glass, debris, pro-Trump gear and flags inside the Capitol after the attack. Participants smeared blood and feces around the building as well.

On the Architect of the Capitol's website, employee Ricardo Mitchell described the damage workers cleaned up after police cleared the Capitol.

"Once they got everything under control, we had to come back in the building and clean up the mess, because the Members were going to return to finish voting," he said. "We had to go into the chambers and prepare them so they would be able to come back."

Fact check: Photo shows U.S. Capitol cleanup after rioters left American flag among debris

A viral photo shows a flag in a bin amid U.S. Capitol riot debris; its fate is uncertain. But the image's caption needs more context.

www.usatoday.com

Still no evidence of turds.

 

[jbander]

Capitol rioter insists he didn’t plan to poop on Nancy Pelosi’s desk​

A capitol rioter hoping to bypass jail time has insisted he had no intention of pooping on anyone’s desk, despite having been accused of specifically considering House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s workspace as a toilet.

Capitol rioter insists he didnât plan to poop on Nancy Pelosiâs desk

A capitol rioter hoping to bypass jail time has insisted he had no intention of pooping on anyone’s desk, despite having been accused of specifically considering House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s workspace as a toilet.As of now, Derek Jancart, who has pleaded guilty and will likely become the first...

www.indy100.com

 

[jbander]

Still no evidence of turds.

We have senate witnesses we have dna test, it was part of a court case, and multiple scum bags just like you admitted it .

 

[Delldude]

Capitol rioter insists he didn’t plan to poop on Nancy Pelosi’s desk​

A capitol rioter hoping to bypass jail time has insisted he had no intention of pooping on anyone’s desk, despite having been accused of specifically considering House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s workspace as a toilet.

Capitol rioter insists he didnât plan to poop on Nancy Pelosiâs desk

A capitol rioter hoping to bypass jail time has insisted he had no intention of pooping on anyone’s desk, despite having been accused of specifically considering House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s workspace as a toilet.As of now, Derek Jancart, who has pleaded guilty and will likely become the first...

www.indy100.com

We need pic's of a turd or it's a crock of shit.

 

[Delldude]

We have senate witnesses we have dna test, it was part of a court case, and multiple scum bags just like you admitted it .

Link?

 

[jbander]

We need pic's of a turd or it's a crock of shit.

You have not one source , you are just lying everyone can figure that out. Its proven 100% with ten sources and you have none. All you have is your lies , So really who will people believe , your lies or my sources. YA hoo!!

 

[jbander]

Link?

I already showed it it is one of the sources I listed. No one believes your lies.

 

[jbander]

Like shooting ducks in a barrel. Doesn't get any easier than this.

 

[schmidlap]

Elected Democrats -- who want to get re-elected -- are not stupid enough to openly endorse violent rioting. "Go attack that police station! Burn down that courthouse!" Of course not. They're not dumb.

On the other hand, their base includes a significant number of serious hardcore Leftists to whom they must cater.

So they have to send out ambiguous signals.

Kamala Harris urged people to send bail money for the arrested violent rioters ... she wouldn't have done that for the 6 January rioters. She wanted to signal her sympathy for the rioters.

As for violence or the threat of violence, Democrat Maxine Waters urged her followers to, whenever they saw a Trump cabinet member in a restaruant, to gather and 'get in their face'. What do you think that means? Handing them a petition?

Democratic Representative Ayanna Pressley called for 'unrest in the streets'. Now, of course, if I were her lawyer, I'd say, oh, she just meant peaceful protest. But if that was really what she meant, she would have said peaceful protests. If there had been only peaceful protests, then the word 'unrest' would have had to apply to them. When riots are going on, the word 'unrest' is filled with a different content.

Political reality, especially in the US, has run far ahead of the vocabulary we have at hand to describe it.

I use the term "the Left" loosely ... necessarily so. Sometimes I mean everyone who is not a conservative ... from the most tepid liberal, all the way out to the Democratic Precinct Chairman who is also head of the Communist Party in his city, or the Leninists inside the Democratic Socialists of America

Sometimes I mean people who want to see the US fundamentally transformed into some sort of socialism, whatever that means nowadays -- most of whom are in, or support, the Democrats, although only a few are elected officials at the national level at the moment.. (And even if we restrict 'the Left' to 'the socialist left', we're not talking about a monolithic bloc -- some of them are small-d democrats, others not.)

I hope it's clear from context each time -- trying to go into detail to make it clear which currents in the Left I'm talking about would add even more words to what is usually a too-long screed anyway.

So ... did any elected national Democrats 'stay silent' on the riots? I doubt it. They're not stupid, and know that riots, like the demand to 'defund the police', are election losers.

But that 'the Left' -- its most consciously-Left components -- had and has a very different attitude to the 2020 rioters, compared to their attitude to the 6 January rioter, shouldn't be controversial. (You can find Leftists on this very board, maybe this thread, justifying the violence of the riots.)

As for local Democratic politicians, the New York Post put it this way:


[ Liberal amnesia about last summer’s riots ]

And the Center for Security Policy noted this about Democrats in Congress:



[ Why Congress won’t investigate the 2020 summer riots - Center for Security Policy ]

So, sorry, your side is not at all impartial. Your attitude to 'Left wing' riots is very different to your attitude to 'Right wing' riots. Neither is my side impartial.

I'm not condemning you for this. That's the way it is in a war. No side punishes its own soldiers who commit war crimes.

Your bias appears to render you impervious to documented reality.

You attempted your diversionary "whaddabout...", despite there being nothing comparable to Trump's violent goon attack on the Capitol in a failed attempt to prevent the constitutional realization of democracy and the fulfillment of the will of the People.

I had requested that you identify your "Left," and explain how you have determined that "most of them were silent."
Of course, you can't.

Meanwhile, as noted,

Multiple high-profile Democrats have spoken out against violence at Black Lives Matter protests,
sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer in May.​

The threat to democracy from the Trump cult persists as the Loser who lied about the results of the election persists in doing so - with no evidence credible for any judicial or legislative body anywhere.

Such a fanatical departure from reality is a threat to the GOP and to the nation.

Republicans worry pro-Trump candidates will haunt them in 2024​

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[schmidlap]

What about the BLM rioters burn down the Minnesota police station?

Fact check: Democrats have condemned violence linked to BLM​

Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned protest-related violence​

8 times Biden, Obama et al. condemned Black Lives Matter violence​

Philando Castile: Black Lives Matter Condemns Violence​

Black Lives Matter 757 speaks out against riots​

Random violence that had marred peaceful protests in various locales was neither incited by nor affiliated with any political party or politician.

Loser Trump's January 6 goon attack on democracy was, obviously, an entirely different matter without parallels, current or ever in America's history.

 

[Delldude]

You have not one source , you are just lying everyone can figure that out. Its proven 100% with ten sources and you have none. All you have is your lies , So really who will people believe , your lies or my sources. YA hoo!!

I already showed it it is one of the sources I listed. No one believes your lies.

Like shooting ducks in a barrel. Doesn't get any easier than this.

All I've seen so far is unsubstantiated bullshit.

 

[Smokin' OP]

All I've seen so far is unsubstantiated bullshit.

So..............You're watching a rerun of Tucker for the 10th time today?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Teabaggers LOVE to bring up another riot, that had NOTHING to do, with the other.
In their warped logic they think one riot, negates the other riot.
They need to borrow IQ points to reach the level of retarded.

 

[Delldude]

So..............You're watching a rerun of Tucker for the 10th time today?

Actually waiting to see footage of DOJ taking turd samples from 10,000 Trump fans.

 

[Doug1943]

Your bias appears to render you impervious to documented reality.

You attempted your diversionary "whaddabout...", despite there being nothing comparable to Trump's violent goon attack on the Capitol in a failed attempt to prevent the constitutional realization of democracy and the fulfillment of the will of the People.

I had requested that you identify your "Left," and explain how you have determined that "most of them were silent."
Of course, you can't.

Meanwhile, as noted,

Multiple high-profile Democrats have spoken out against violence at Black Lives Matter protests,
sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer in May.​

The threat to democracy from the Trump cult persists as the Loser who lied about the results of the election persists in doing so - with no evidence credible for any judicial or legislative body anywhere.

Such a fanatical departure from reality is a threat to the GOP and to the nation.

Republicans worry pro-Trump candidates will haunt them in 2024​

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Thank you for your concern about the future of the GOP. I share it.

The summer 2020 rioters were your people -- they weren't Republican voters. They were your people in two senses:

(1) The ghetto lumpens who came out to steal things, if they bother to vote, will vote Democratic. (They're usually too drugged up to go down to the polling station, thus the big push for mail-in ballots which can be harvested.)

(2) Young white radicals, "AntiFa", much cossetted by liberals. They're the ones whose more deranged members murder conservatives, to the cheers and laughter of the others and the public approval of leftist academics.

Of course any high-profile national Democratic politician with a working survival instinct is not going to come out and openly endorse rioting, or even 'defunding the police': they're not stupid. They'll arrange for bail money to be sent to the rioters, they'll call for continuing 'unrest' in the streets, they'll threaten Republican political figures with being mobbed at restraunts ... but they won't openly say, "Burn down those Korean shops!"

But 'the Left' is more than national Democratic politicians.

We have to look at local Democratic politicians and political figures, to see their reaction to criminality and "threats to democracy"..among their voting base and supporters.

And there we see a different picture.

We need to look at liberal academics when they write their books and papers about AntiFa, praising them.

Or as the liberal professoriate watch approvingly when radical leftist students break up conservative meetings on campus. The silence of liberal journalists of mainstream magazines about what has now become routine on American campuses is also a statement.

We have to look at the District Attorneys in liberal areas -- although if they go a bit too far in their lenient attitudes towards criminals, and unleash mass shoplifting mobs on the upscale stores of their liberal voters, they'll get recalled, as happened in San Francisco.

And if we do that, we see a different story. Toleration of violence carried out by an important component of the Left's base.

But ... I'm not accusing you of hypocrisy. Both of us say, if someone from our side has committed a crime, let the law take its course, so long as it's fair. The 6 January rioters will have to accept their punishment -- whether or not they were lured into a trap, or just stepped into it with eyes open, they did it and there are consequences.

But they're our own, so we will support them, just like your side sees the earlier rioters, or the campus Red Guards attacking conservative speakers, as your own, and takes the same attitude.

We're not yet openly at war, when, as the saying goes, the laws go silent. Our civil war is still a 'cold' one so far. But neither side is going to repudiate its supporters when they do anti-democratic things. It's just the logic of the situation.

 

[jbander]

All I've seen so far is unsubstantiated bullshit.

You can't even find a source to back up your bullshit , I've given you 10. You're just another red neck fucking liar.

 

[jbander]

Actually waiting to see footage of DOJ taking turd samples from 10,000 Trump fans.

Hey worm the DNA test of the excrement at the capital was to find out if it was human shit , and what they found out is that it was half human shit , so they knew it was right wing shit. Why did you shit on the floor when you were there.