How Liberals Created Ronald Reagan

[Uncensored2008]

Much of this is rhetorical hyperbole, and does not merit a response. As I have already pointed out, the inflation that happened in 1980, and which diminished during the Reagan administration was due to fluctuations in the price of petroleum over which neither president had much control.

Historical Oil Prices: InflationData.com

I still remember Carter on TV, espousing the vast superiority of the Soviet Military.

Funny how leftists now claim that the USSR was already falling. Not with Carter though, he help get a Soviet Satellite on the North American continent, in Nicaragua.

Carter was the worst president in my lifetime - until Obama oozed onto the scene.

 

[Truthmatters]

Michael Reagan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


He was born in Los Angeles, California, to Irene Flaugher (born 1916[3]- died December 26, 1985[4]), an unwed woman from Kentucky[5] who became pregnant through a relationship with an army corporal named John Bourgholtzer[6] (died 1993). He was adopted by Ronald Reagan and Jane Wyman shortly after his birth.

Michael grew up with the Reagan family in Beverly Hills, California, and later nearby Pacific Palisades. He was sent to boarding school when he was six and spent a total of four days per month visiting his father and mother



In 1964 he graduated from the Judson School, a boarding school outside of Scottsdale, Arizona.[8] At his high school graduation, Ronald Reagan introduced himself to his son by saying, "My name is Ronald Reagan. What's yours?" He replied, "I'm your son Mike." "Oh," said Ronald Reagan. "I didn't recognize you."

 

[Truthmatters]

It amazes me that this man has any respect for his father

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ronald Reagan played the role of a hard working, deeply religious family man, none of which he was. Jimmy Carter was all of that.

Jimmy Carter is a traitorous bastard. He is responsible for North Korea having nuclear arms.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It amazes me that this man has any respect for his father

It amazes me that a cat hasn't tried to bury you...

 

[there4eyeM]

"Carter was the worst president in my lifetime - until Obama oozed onto the scene."

How many illegal wars did he start? I don't remember any.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Horseshit

If that was your order at Chik-Fil-A, be advised....no matter your dietary preferences, they only serve chicken.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan was a bad actor and a bad president.

And that's no one's fault but his own.

Ronald Reagan played the role of a hard working, deeply religious family man, none of which he was. Jimmy Carter was all of that.

Jimmy was an incompetent fool, as are his supporters.

Your post, case in point.

 

[Uncensored2008]

How many illegal wars did he start? I don't remember any.

Illegal war?

LOL

You ThinkProgress morons are something else.

Carter offered diplomatic support for the Sandinista coup in Nicaragua, offering the USSR their long sought beachhead in the Western hemisphere. At the time I thought Carter merely inept, a fool. Now I think that like Jim Wright, he was actually a traitor and was seeking to assist Soviet expansion. I think that due to the work he did on behalf of Kim Jung Il to secure fissionable nuclear materials, thus giving them the bomb. Be sure that it was Carter, not Clinton, who did this. Carter hoodwinked Clinton with the light water reactor, giving Kim the ability to deploy Nukes.

So, the idea of Carter deliberately working to give the Soviets a base is not far fetched. Either way, Carter made constant claims of Soviet superiority. I see one of the other leftists have trotted out the talking point that the USSR was already in collapse. This is either an utter fabrication, or Carter was insanely stupid, as he spoke of the Soviet military dominance and the need for U.S. acquiescence lest the vastly superior Soviets roll right through Europe. Yes. we now know that the columns of T-80 tanks in East Germany were actually a Terracotta army, but Carter pointed to them as an invasion force only held back due to our bowing to Soviet demands.

So yes, Prior to Obama, Carter was the worst president in my lifetime, far worse than Dubya, who was a disaster.

Yet Obama makes me yearn for either of them....

 

[Truthmatters]

Why do you adopt a child and then put them in boarding school all their life?

 

[there4eyeM]

You are quite mistaken if you think me a leftist, but at least we agree on 'W', though I may have stronger sentiments.

As for Nicaragua, overlooking the US intervention throughout its existence lamentably distorts proper interpretation of events.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Have you ever heard the old saying....

"The master is allowed, the donkey is not."

The answer I was looking for. It is at least good to see the hypocrisy and contradiction of various US administrations, Republican and Democrat.

And the only thing to thank Reagan for is that he was not even more of a catastrophe.

He could have bungled his way to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union. If instead of Mikhail Gorbachev the Soviet Union had been ruled by a neo Stalinist as reckless as Reagan that is what might have happened.

It is no wonder one as ill-informed as you are would have the opinion that you do.
Gorbachev was just like any other Soviet leader....and fully believed the US would cave and hand Europe over to them.
Why do you suppose he installed Soviet SS-20s and Backfire bombers and enough tanks so that one could 'walk across Europe on them'?
Why...you dolt???

To give up, dunce????


"Many forces contributed to the fall of the "Evil Empire", but foremost among them was the deployment of those 464 cruise and 108 Pershing II missiles slated to offset triple-warhead Soviet SS-20s and Backfire bombers that could reach all of Western Europe (but not the American homeland). Needless to say, it was not the "theo-logic" of deterrence that drove the counter-deployment. The drama was not really about "circular-errors probable" or "hard-target kill capabilities." The name of the game was as old as Thucydides' disquisitions on Peloponnesian power politics. It was a pure test of will and strength, and on its outcome hung, as it turned out, history. Yet what a slender thread it was.....


Now imagine that hundreds of Soviet SS-20s and Backfires had remained unmatched and unbalanced. Posing a separate threat, they would have consecrated Soviet strategic superiority on the Old Continent while silently reminding the West Europeans to remain on their best behavior. NATO would have collapsed de facto right then and there, and not twenty years later, when Berlin and Paris joined with Moscow in 2003 to try to derail the American war against Saddam Hussein.


At no point, however, did Gorbachev want to yield Moscow's pride of place as the number two superpower. And he was blissfully confident that the risks were tolerable: "There is no reason to fear the collapse or the end of socialism", Gorbachev assured Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu three weeks after the Berlin Wall had been breached and three weeks before the Romanian dictator was executed by his own people."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_77/ai_n6353166/pg_3/?tag=content;col1


When you come up with a quality response…just give me a call…I’ll be ice skating in Hell.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan raisd taxes 11 times to cover his 4 fold increase in the military and to pay for his tax cuts.

What a bargain!!!

His brilliant strategy defeated the Evil Empire without firing a shot!

"Reagan was made from far sterner stuff than was his Soviet counterpart. His genial grin and wise-cracking demeanor concealed a spine of steel when push came to shove. Yet at their next meeting in Reykjavik in 1986, where Gorbachev would not budge on the "Star Wars" question, Reagan was decisive and unforgiving. He recalls in An American Life how he stood up from the table to proclaim that the meeting was over. Then he turned to his Secretary of State: "Let's go, George. We're leaving." Like any good diplomat, Shultz was crushed by so much roughness, but Reagan was completely unfazed. Later on, he explained: "I went to Reykjavik determined that everything was negotiable except two things, our freedom and our future."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_77/ai_n6353166/pg_3/?tag=content;col1

"...to cover his 4 fold increase in the military..."

"I went to Reykjavik determined that everything was negotiable except two things, our freedom and our future."

our freedom and our future.....priceless.

OK, drop-draws, now say "thank you, President Reagan!"

Because the Soviet Union was nearing collapse Reagan's defense budget, which bankrupted the Treasury, was unnecessary. Moreover, because of that imminent collapse, provoking an arms race with the Soviets was catastrophically dangerous.

You will buy every Leftist excuse like it was on sale.

Idiot.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan raisd taxes 11 times to cover his 4 fold increase in the military and to pay for his tax cuts.

His tax cuts for the rich, you mean. Under Ronald Blithering Reagan the top tax rate declined from 70 to 28 percent.

Historical Top Tax Rate

Real after tax income for 80 percent of the country declined.

The Vampire Economy | DNDN Message Board Posts

As usual, your post is totally false.

See chapter 12 of "To Save America," Gingrich.

1. Even with Reagan’s defense build-up, total federal spending declined from a high of 23.5% of GDP in 1983, to 21.3% in 1988, and 21.2% in 1989. That is a real 10% reduction in the size of government relative to the economy. (p. 159)

2. Reagan’s first executive order eliminated price controls on oil and natural gas. Production soared, and the price of oil declined by more than 50%. That as a remarkable contrast to President Carter’s gasoline rationing….From scarcity of gasoline to abundance in six months- this was one of Reagan’s first evident accomplishments. (p. 159)

3. The Reagan Recovery began in November 1982, and lasted 92 months without a recession, until July 1990, when the tax increase of the 1990 budget deal ended the streak. This was the longest peacetime expansion ever- the previous being 58 months.

a. During these 7 years, the economy grew by almost one third, the equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany…which was the third largest world economy at the time. In 1984 alone, real economic growth shot up 6.8%, the highest in 50 yeas, with nearly 20 million new jobs created. Unemployment fell to 5.3%, about half of what it had been at the peak of the Carter Recession.

b. Real per capita disposable income increased 18% from 1982 to 1989.

c. The poverty rate, which had been on the rise during the Carter years, declined every year from 1984 to 1989, dropping by 1/6 from its peak.

d. Inflation was reduced by more than half between 1980 and 1982, to 6.2%, and cut in half again for 1983, to 3.2%.

e. The prime rate was cut by 2/3 by 1987, to 8.2%, and down to 6.25% by 1992.

f. New home mortgage rates declined steadily, reaching 9.19% by 1988, and down to 8% by 1992. (p. 160)

4. Even with the Reagan tax cuts, total federal revenues doubled from 1980 to 1990, from $517.1 billion to over $1 trillion. (p.161)



You are truly a compendium of fatuity.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan was a bad actor and a bad president.

And that's no one's fault but his own.

Can't always believe everything you hear.

1. He was successful in the first two of the four. Volcker doubled the fed funds rate in one year, reaching 20% in 1981.
Historical Changes of the Target Federal Funds and Discount Rates - Federal Reserve Bank of New York

And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.” http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm

“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.” US Department of the Treasury


2. The benefits from Reaganomics:

a. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)

b. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)

c. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)

d. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)

e. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95)
FDsys - Browse ERP

f. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116

So...how does that compare to "The One"?

Care to alter your post?

Go back and read my posts. Fewer jobs were created per year than under Jimmy Carter. Unemployment was higher. Real after tax income for 80 percent of the country declined. The national debt doubled. The only people who benefited from Reagan's policies were rich people, and the rather small number who got rich.

Really?


"It wasn’t just the rich getting richer and the poor staying the same or getting poorer: Research on income mobility shows a poor family in 1979 was more likely to be rich by the early 1990s than to still be poor. The purchasing power of the median-income family rose to $54,061 in 2004, an $8,288 real increase since 1980."
Bast: American Prosperity: From Kennedy to Reagan | Heartland Institute

Thanks to the Reagan Revolution.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It is no wonder one as ill-informed as you are would have the opinion that you do.
Gorbachev was just like any other Soviet leader....and fully believed the US would cave and hand Europe over to them.
Why do you suppose he installed Soviet SS-20s and Backfire bombers and enough tanks so that one could 'walk across Europe on them'?
Why...you dolt???

To give up, dunce????


"Many forces contributed to the fall of the "Evil Empire", but foremost among them was the deployment of those 464 cruise and 108 Pershing II missiles slated to offset triple-warhead Soviet SS-20s and Backfire bombers that could reach all of Western Europe (but not the American homeland). Needless to say, it was not the "theo-logic" of deterrence that drove the counter-deployment. The drama was not really about "circular-errors probable" or "hard-target kill capabilities." The name of the game was as old as Thucydides' disquisitions on Peloponnesian power politics. It was a pure test of will and strength, and on its outcome hung, as it turned out, history. Yet what a slender thread it was.....


Now imagine that hundreds of Soviet SS-20s and Backfires had remained unmatched and unbalanced. Posing a separate threat, they would have consecrated Soviet strategic superiority on the Old Continent while silently reminding the West Europeans to remain on their best behavior. NATO would have collapsed de facto right then and there, and not twenty years later, when Berlin and Paris joined with Moscow in 2003 to try to derail the American war against Saddam Hussein.


At no point, however, did Gorbachev want to yield Moscow's pride of place as the number two superpower. And he was blissfully confident that the risks were tolerable: "There is no reason to fear the collapse or the end of socialism", Gorbachev assured Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu three weeks after the Berlin Wall had been breached and three weeks before the Romanian dictator was executed by his own people."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2751/is_77/ai_n6353166/pg_3/?tag=content;col1


When you come up with a quality response…just give me a call…I’ll be ice skating in Hell.

After the wall fell, we found out that most of the T-80s were mere shells, they had no engines, weapon systems or actual armor. They looked impressive from a satellite view, but were a complete fraud, a Terracotta army.

I wonder how many of the SS-20's were also fakes? Carter bought into all of it and knuckled under to every Soviet demand. Reagan called their bluff.

 

[Truthmatters]

Michael Reagan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


He was born in Los Angeles, California, to Irene Flaugher (born 1916[3]- died December 26, 1985[4]), an unwed woman from Kentucky[5] who became pregnant through a relationship with an army corporal named John Bourgholtzer[6] (died 1993). He was adopted by Ronald Reagan and Jane Wyman shortly after his birth.

Michael grew up with the Reagan family in Beverly Hills, California, and later nearby Pacific Palisades. He was sent to boarding school when he was six and spent a total of four days per month visiting his father and mother



In 1964 he graduated from the Judson School, a boarding school outside of Scottsdale, Arizona.[8] At his high school graduation, Ronald Reagan introduced himself to his son by saying, "My name is Ronald Reagan. What's yours?" He replied, "I'm your son Mike." "Oh," said Ronald Reagan. "I didn't recognize you."

Did Ron and Nancy send all their kids away ?

 

[there4eyeM]

"After the wall fell, we found out that most of the T-80s were mere shells, they had no engines, weapon systems or actual armor. They looked impressive from a satellite view, but were a complete fraud, a Terracotta army."

Just for interest, is there a reference for this?

 

[there4eyeM]

At least some of the Soviet reaction was to the first-strike MX.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Just for interest, is there a reference for this?

Not only is there a wealth of information on the traditional use of fake tanks, the Russians STILL are doing it.

Russian army inflates itself with fake tanks — RT