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Right, from the man/woman who consistently fails to post anything technical.I started by asking you to qualify your statement and answer simple questions, and in return you've attacked me and puked on yourself. Apparently, your only area of expertise.You have yet to even remotely post anything other than rhetoric, period.Let's get technical. Post some pictures, specs. and data of your solar water heater system and we can show you where, besides jumping to illogical conjecture, your misconceptions lie.
Anytime you wish to qualify yourself, technically feel free.
Thus far, your three dozen responses to me have been nothing but flames and trolls, which is all you deserve in return.
You're an expert because, "analyst"? You can't be questioned because you posted a picture? You're a fraud and an illiterate fool with an agenda.
Wikipedia is the depth of your technical knowledge, you must be joking!How is solar energy sustainable? By definition.
Sustainable energy is the form of energy obtained from non-exhaustible resources, such that the provision of this form of energy serves the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their needs.
Technologies that promote sustainable energy include renewable energy sources, such as hydroelectricity, solar energy, wind energy, wave power, geothermal energy, bioenergy, tidal power and also technologies designed to improve energy efficiency. Costs have fallen dramatically in recent years, and continue to fall. Most of these technologies are either economically competitive or close to being so. Increasingly, effective government policies support investor confidence and these markets are expanding. Considerable progress is being made in the energy transition from fossil fuels to ecologically sustainable systems, to the point where many studies support 100% renewable energy.
Sustainable energy - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
I gave mine, I started this OP with links, you claim Solar is sustainable, not me, support your claim, support your opinion, hell, support what you suppose to be fact.All right, instead of refuting my reply of THE generally accepted definition of sustainable energy, which clearly makes you look like the idiot poser you are ... And of course, once again attacking ME ... Please link to any reputable source that states I'm wrong or defines it differently.
Go on, Bozo. Let's see your research expertise in action.
I gave mine, I started this OP with links, you claim Solar is sustainable, not me, support your claim, support your opinion, hell, support what you suppose to be fact.Go on, Bozo. Let's see your research expertise in action.
So, how about stop sniveling about who attacks who, and lets just stick to technical facts. Go ahead, I concede to let you go first, have at, unload all that great technical knowledge you have boasted of, go!
Such a simple question, such a simple word, thrown out as fact, indisputable.
Solar is sustainable.
Sure, the sun shines, on some days, on others, not. Forever no, but long enough.
But Solar Energy is much different than simply stating, "The Sun Shines!" Solar is the Sun, Solar Energy is Heavy Industry. Is heavy Industry Sustainable?
Now, if Solar Panels grew on trees, that would qualify as, Sustainable.
Sustainability - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
In ecology, sustainability is how biological systems remain diverse and productive. Long-lived and healthy wetlands and forests are examples of sustainable biological systems
Solar Energy, gets a free pass, on sustainability.
Can we continue to divert our money, our labor into Solar, at rates that are simply expressed best as 100's of billions of dollars? Is that sustainable?
We can not sustain the whims of Government, Special Interest corporations, University "research", the "scientists".
Thus far Solar has failed to produce electricity in quantity to make any difference, other than in EXPENSE.
How is Solar Sustainable? That makes no sense at all.
I have no problem with people buying stuff for their homes, great statement on the "large scale" application. Can you give us specs? Brand name? Any pics of the Batteries? Not as a challenge or anything, simply because I have never seen one nor has anybody posted pics of their system. So it would be nice to finally see one.Such a simple question, such a simple word, thrown out as fact, indisputable.
Solar is sustainable.
Sure, the sun shines, on some days, on others, not. Forever no, but long enough.
But Solar Energy is much different than simply stating, "The Sun Shines!" Solar is the Sun, Solar Energy is Heavy Industry. Is heavy Industry Sustainable?
Now, if Solar Panels grew on trees, that would qualify as, Sustainable.
Sustainability - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
In ecology, sustainability is how biological systems remain diverse and productive. Long-lived and healthy wetlands and forests are examples of sustainable biological systems
Solar Energy, gets a free pass, on sustainability.
Can we continue to divert our money, our labor into Solar, at rates that are simply expressed best as 100's of billions of dollars? Is that sustainable?
We can not sustain the whims of Government, Special Interest corporations, University "research", the "scientists".
Thus far Solar has failed to produce electricity in quantity to make any difference, other than in EXPENSE.
How is Solar Sustainable? That makes no sense at all.
On my house, all of components are 95% recyclable.
I have a zero dollar electric bill.
I had solar installed on my boat last summer and I never had to start the generator.
My point. Solar electricity on a large scale will do very little except provide additional profit for electric companies.
I have a friend who develops homes here in Vegas, and has approached me to fund a development of 100 all electric homes that will have all of their energy provided by a community solar farm of panels on every home, as well as the community park. The additional cost would be $60.00 per month for cost and upkeep.
I can wait to see the cow that utilities and their Republican whore politicians are going to have.
x onASSis, you care to see my research in action? You want me to define Sustainability again, because you think the Wikipedia link is strictly about, "biological". Well, thank you for the insight to your thinking, you read the quote but did not bother to follow the link, you assumed without doing anymore research, without following the link. I see now how you have come to believe in your nonsense. I see why you lack the technical knowledge to keep up.I gave mine, I started this OP with links, you claim Solar is sustainable, not me, support your claim, support your opinion, hell, support what you suppose to be fact.Go on, Bozo. Let's see your research expertise in action.
So, how about stop sniveling about who attacks who, and lets just stick to technical facts. Go ahead, I concede to let you go first, have at, unload all that great technical knowledge you have boasted of, go!
You posted a single link, Bozo, and a quote relating to biological sustainability. And what happened to your indignation at that inferior source for information? Huh?
Is it possible to defend your nonsense in a more feeble way, Mr-Pretend-to-be-Analyst?
In ecology, sustainability is how biological systems remain diverse and productive. Long-lived and healthy wetlands and forests are examples of sustainable biological systems. In more general terms, sustainability is the endurance of systems and processes. Theorganizing principle for sustainability is sustainable development, which includes the four interconnected domains: ecology, economics, politics and culture.[1] Sustainability science is the study of sustainable development and environmental science.[2]
Healthy ecosystems and environments are necessary to the survival of humans and other organisms. Ways of reducing negative human impact are environmentally-friendly chemical engineering, environmental resources management and environmental protection. Information is gained from green chemistry, earth science, environmental science and conservation biology. Ecological economics studies the fields of academic research that aim to address human economies and natural ecosystems.
Good points.I really wonder if any study has been done to show how much energy it takes to mine iron out of the ground and melt it down to make an engine block and then the total energy to operate the factory where the engine is assembled and then the energy required to extract petrol from the ground and refine it for fuel and to then the whole energy requirement to manufacture the generator to be powered by the engine, and so the total cost in energy to produce a given Kilowatt from a diesel generator?
My gut level interpretation is that the systems currently in use by humanity are running a dead loss sort of energy use and sooner or later this will catch up with us.
Great question, how much energy does it take to make a block, if a dollar represents the true cost of a Block, just look up the cost of short block or a crate motor. For a crate motor, my guess is 2500$.I really wonder if any study has been done to show how much energy it takes to mine iron out of the ground and melt it down to make an engine block and then the total energy to operate the factory where the engine is assembled and then the energy required to extract petrol from the ground and refine it for fuel and to then the whole energy requirement to manufacture the generator to be powered by the engine, and so the total cost in energy to produce a given Kilowatt from a diesel generator?
My gut level interpretation is that the systems currently in use by humanity are running a dead loss sort of energy use and sooner or later this will catch up with us.
Solar can maintain heat without the sun? In a industrial sized commercial solar power plant, I guess that is why Solar Plants use natural gas to keep the heat up when clouds go by? Right?elektra- - Words have meaning, Bozo. You don't get to redefine "sustainable energy" or other common words pertaining to renewables because of your own ignorance or suspicions, regardless of whether or not you choose to randomly capitalize them.
Worse, you keep insisting on "technical" answers and keep questioning the knowledge of others, while you've demonstrated the inability to answer even the simplest questions, and have shown absolutely no knowledge of even the fundamentals of solar technology.
Your childish claims by someone claiming to be an analyst are bizarre. You don't think solar energy is sustainable because although the sun is an inexhaustible supply of energy, photo voltaic collectors won't last forever and need to be replaced? WTF?
You've made vague claims that it takes more energy to harness solar energy than can be used, yet blithely ignore the fact that not just warming the earth itself, but most energy we can and do harness, came originally from the sun, including fossil fuels.
I understand what you're trying to get at, but you haven't shown the capacity to find Jump Street let alone take a stroll.
What sort of "technical" responses do these idiotic statements deserve:
"Of course it is poorly designed, it is SOLAR."
That non sequitur was a logical fallacy, but it did beg the question, (see what I did there?) "What year did you drop out of high school?"
"Solar can not sustain heat during the winter, nor at night, nor during cloudy days."
What? Some sort of "technical analyst" doesn't understand that heat loss and storage systems are unrelated to heat source? Clearly a lesson in BTU's, R-values and their relationship to U-values would be futile.
"The sun just does not rise that high during the winter."
Right! That's why you can only take a bath in the summer at noon, Bozo.
Who are you replying to? Show us the pictures of the installed solar system, I would like to see what you are talking about. Or is this your way of stating your Technical Knowledge of Solar, that you somehow or in some way are part of something that builds houses?I've built homes that consume 50% to 75% less energy than similar homes in the same degree-day zones. The added cost was in the neighborhood of 2-10% of total construction cost. My 25 year old home in NY will cost about $2000 less this year to heat than my neighbor directly across the street. That's a one-to-two-year pay back. Is it sustainable in your little mind, Bozo?