rightwinger
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Yet another effort to justify Stalin's Stooge's treason.The Gestapo were very adept at rooting out conspiracies, even those that were only marginal conspiracies. Retribution was fast and brutalHow does posting a list of Germans who plotted against Hitler got caught and executed support your claim that a coup was possible? Doesn't it show instead that a coup was not possible? Of course, it does.You have no evidence that a group friendly to the west were capable of turning Hitler over or assassinating him was possible. Multiple posters have provided links to show that at least 25 attempts at assassination failed. Beyond that, you have shown not a shred of evidence that even if your idea of capture or assassination of Hitler had succeeded that it would have instigated a surrender of the entire intact German military that in 1942 was still holding its own in North Africa, Scandanavia and the entire continent of Europe and Russia.Your questions and claims have been answered and refuted multiple times by multiple posters.
Really?
Well...then how about you provide a few of those answers....
Actually.....none of the Roosevelt boot-lickers have made any attempt at explaining.....
...much less excusing....
....Roosevelt's exchange of 200,000 American servicemen's lives simply for facilitating Soviet Communism's expansion.
In short.....what did America gain by not supporting the German resistance movement, which would have turned Hitler over to the Allies, ended the war at least two years earlier than it ended, .....
"You have no evidence that a group friendly to the west were capable of turning Hitler over or assassinating him was possible."
Clearly you have no answer to ..what did America gain by not supporting the German resistance movement,...
...so you are running from the fact......FACT.....that there was a large anti-Nazi, anti-communist German underground.
'In a certain sense there was not a single year between 1933 and 1945 during which there was not some contact or attempt at contact, between the anti-Hitler opposition and either Britain or the Unites States, or both. The Greatest War Crime
Wilhelm Canaris
Franz von Papen
Colonel General Ludwig Beck Beginning in early 1937,"the first 'cell' of the Resistance Movement" was formed by Ludwig Beck, Army Chief of staff, and Carl Goerdeler, who had just resigned as Mayor of Leipzig as a gesture in defiance of Nazi anti-Semitism (Ritter, Goerdeler's Struggle, pp. 35-3G, 75-79). As financial adviser to the Robert Bosch firm of Stuttgart, Goerdeler was sent abroad by his employer "on business" between early 1937 and late 1939 to the U.S., Britain, Switzerland, Palestine and a dozen other countries, making contact with persons interested in the overthrow of Hitler's regime (Ibid, pp. 47, 81, 83, 305, 484; and Hoffmann, German Resistance, p. 153). The Greatest War Crime
Carl Friedrich Goerderler
Ulrich von Hassell
Johannes Popitz
Kurt von Hammerstein
Job Wilhelm Georg Erdmann Erwin von Witzleben (4 December 1881 – 8 August 1944) was a German officer, by 1940 in the rank of a Field Marshal(Generalfeldmarschall), and army commander in the Second World War. A leading conspirator in the 20 July plot,[1]he was designated to become Commander-in-Chief of the Wehrmacht armed forces in a post-Nazi regime Erwin von Witzleben - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
.General Edward Wagner
General Georg Thomas
Major General Hans Oster
General Friederich Olbricht
Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg
Wilhelm Leuchner
Julius Leber
Helmuth von Moltke
Baron Kurt von Lersner
Most importantly, the opposition to Hitler would have to be assured that the people who were about to risk their lives in an attempt to overthrow Hitler would, if they succeeded, be faced with something better than the "unconditional surrender" formula proclaimed as a British-American war aim at the Casablanca Conference of Churchill and Roosevelt in January 1943. Von Papen needed to know "whether they would grant, to a German Government which met democratic requirements, the rights to which Germany's history and position entitled her. This must be the decisive factor in any further step (von Papen,Memoirs, p. 499; and Albert C. Wedemeyer, Wedemeyer Reports! New York: Henry Holt & Co., 1958, p. 417.)."
Franz Von Papen promised to get in touch with FDR. He decided to ask his friend, Baron Kurt von Lersner (a friend of FDR) to make contact with the former governor of Pennsylvania, Commander George H. Earle, FDR's personal representative (i.e., eyes and ears) for the Balkans, stationed in Istanbul. In the meantime, German Intelligence chief, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, long in contact with the Beck-Goerdeler group, had also decided to make the same attempt through Navy Captain Paul Leverkuehn, an internationally-known lawyer and acquaintance of William J. Donovan, head of the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (Heinz Hoehne, Canaris, trans. J. Maxwell Brownjohn Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1979, pp. 482-83; Ritter, Goerdeler's Struggle; and von Papen, Memoirs, pp. 488-89, 499.).
So....what have we learned???
Perhaps 're-learned' is more accurate: you are a lying ignorant low-life who will say anything to defend the four-time mistake, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
That's the truth....isn't it.
They were helped by a local population that was quick to report their neighbors
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