How far away is a faster than light quantum entangled internet, and what will it mean

Status
Not open for further replies.

esalla

Platinum Member
Apr 13, 2020
8,006
4,264
908
Cryogenic capsule under area 51, I am not dead

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
The way I understand it, QE comms are instantaneous.
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?

Fascinating. But what I really want to know is how far away is mankind from instantaneous interstellar travel via quantum entanglement? Oh well, it'd make a great sci-fi novel . . .
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?

Fascinating. But what I really want to know is how far away is mankind from instantaneous interstellar travel via quantum entanglement? Oh well, it'd make a great sci-fi novel . . .
Several have been done.
 
  • Thread starter
  • Banned
  • #7

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
The way I understand it, QE comms are instantaneous.
That is what they say but some Chinese researchers did achieve a speed which was I believe in the neighborhood of 10000 times light speed
 
  • Thread starter
  • Banned
  • #8

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?

Fascinating. But what I really want to know is how far away is mankind from instantaneous interstellar travel via quantum entanglement? Oh well, it'd make a great sci-fi novel . . .
Not currently possible but as matter can not be sent, though you in theory could send the info to build anything on the other side
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
The way I understand it, QE comms are instantaneous.
That is what they say but some Chinese researchers did achieve a speed which was I believe in the neighborhood of 10000 times light speed
Thanks but I don't trust anything they say.
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
The way I understand it, QE comms are instantaneous.
That is what they say but some Chinese researchers did achieve a speed which was I believe in the neighborhood of 10000 times light speed
Thanks but I don't trust anything they say.
American researchers are saying instantly, if you do the breakdown of 10000 * 186,000 (miles per second) you end up with what is effectively instantly anyway. The difference between DARPA and the Chinese is that DARPA does not have to brag.
 
It means Google will know your toilet paper purchase even before you eat that 6 hours in the sun deviled egg at your friends outdoor party.
It also means China can steal your data so fast that you'll wonder how info from your first flip phone got leaked into a fortune cookie 20 years later.
 
It means Google will know your toilet paper purchase even before you eat that 6 hours in the sun deviled egg at your friends outdoor party.
It also means China can steal your data so fast that you'll wonder how info from your first flip phone got leaked into a fortune cookie 20 years later.
Actually the claim is that quantum processing could enable not hackable computing as trillions of operations could be done in a fraction of a second enabling encryption at least millions of times over what we have now. So you could have trillions of character encryption just to say Hi and the message could be received and returned from the edge of our solar system in less time than it takes for this to be sent
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
The entangled state is instantaneous, but it is not possible to send information that way. The sender has no way to know what the current state is at his end. And he has no way to change the state in order to form a message. If he tries to do that, the entanglement would be broken.

The Chinese did not send any information to their satellite. They only verified that the instantaneous entanglement was much faster than light. The figure they quoted would ordinarily be infinitely fast but in practice was limited by instrumentation accuracy.

The experiment is interesting because is shows that entanglement can be used for encryption, but no information transmission is faster than light.
.
 

Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.

All that said, will these new computers be powerful enough to do simulated virus vaccine testing with more accuracy than test trials do now? If the answer is yes then perhaps these computers can also unscramble genomes.

So are there any new thoughts on faster than light quantum communications that many said could never happen?
The entangled state is instantaneous, but it is not possible to send information that way. The sender has no way to know what the current state is at his end. And he has no way to change the state in order to form a message. If he tries to do that, the entanglement would be broken.

The Chinese did not send any information to their satellite. They only verified that the instantaneous entanglement was much faster than light. The figure they quoted would ordinarily be infinitely fast but in practice was limited by instrumentation accuracy.

The experiment is interesting because is shows that entanglement can be used for encryption, but no information transmission is faster than light.
.
You would have laughed at von braun when he wrote in his thesis that it should be possible to shoot to the moon...……..

Quantum entanglement breakthrough could boost encryption, secure communications
Using quantum entanglement, a team of researchers has developed a new way to communicate via particles of light.

A team of researchers has published details of a new way to reliably create particles that are well-suited to use in quantum communications, which could lead to the unhackable communication protocols that have long been pitched as one of the most useful applications of the technology.

The scientists generated entangled photons, a method that applies one of the most intriguing properties of quantum physics. Entanglement is a phenomenon that occurs when two quantum particles become inextricably linked, which means that the way one behaves immediately affects the other, regardless of the distance between them.


You are the most dense and ignorant fool I have ever come across. Are you going to spend your entire life saying you can't or are you going to start doing what others say can't be done

Photon entanglement, in itself, is not new. In fact, the technology is already used for secure communication over thousands of kilometres, for example for satellite-to-ground or satellite-to-satellite communications. Until now, however, photons were generated in a specific wavelength – between 700 and 1,550 nanometres – which means that the light produced is close to the brightness of the sun.

Sunlight peaks around 500 nanometres, explains Matteo Clerici, senior lecturer at the University of Glasgow, who led the research; as a result, during the daytime, photon detectors struggle to differentiate the photons generated as part of a given experiment from the sun's light.


"If you have a single entangled photon, combined with hundreds of photons coming from the sun at a really close wavelength, coming towards a detector, you cannot distinguish between them," explains Clerici. Needless to say, the mixup can pose some problems for satellite communication.

Of course, you could start generating photons at wavelengths as far removed from the brightness of the sun as you possibly can, but then other challenges come into play. In some wavelengths, for example, which may be less bright, photons can instead be absorbed by certain types of atmospheric gases.

What the research team at the University of Glasgow managed to do, was to find a "transparency window" in the atmosphere, where there aren't many absorbing gases, nor is the sunlight overwhelming. That window is further into the infrared spectrum, at two micrometres wavelength.

Generating photons at two micrometres had never been demonstrated before. A major challenge for the researchers was to get their hands on the appropriate technology to conduct their experiment. "You need detectors that are able to see single photons at two micrometres, and we had to develop the right technology for these measurements," says Clerici. "And on the other side, you also need a specific piece of technology to generate the photons."

In partnership with technology manufacturer Covesion and the National Institute of Communications and Technology (NICT) in Tokyo, Clerici and his team engineered a nonlinear crystal that was suitable for operating at two micrometers. Photons are generated when short pulses of light from a laser source pass through the crystal.

SEE: This cloud service lets you use quantum and classical computing together to solve big problems

In theory, the entangled photons generated at the new wavelength should be able to travel as far as the photons generated through existing methods, and used for satellite communication. But the new experiment is still in its early stages, and Clerici said that the team hasn't yet identified how much information the new technology can communicate, or how quickly.

"There are various different ways to address daylight communication," says Clerici, "but our point is that at two micrometres, even though the technology isn't as developed as for other wavelengths, we may have an advantage, so it is worth exploring." For the team, therefore, work has only begun.


Security
 
There would never be a need for such computational power and speed to send simple messages on Earth. What is useful though in this context is using this sort of computing to send messages to outposts around other planets.

This technological leap ahead creates a new trouble though that renders these old ideas and outlooks obsolete, relegating the need to message into a valueless state.
 
There would never be a need for such computational power and speed to send simple messages on Earth. What is useful though in this context is using this sort of computing to send messages to outposts around other planets.

This leap ahead creates a new trouble though that renders these old ideas and outlooks obsolete.
Sure this would be useful on Earth as it not only is almost literally instant transfer but wires might also become things of the past. In cell communications no matter mow many towers, networks or servers were involved your answer would always be there before your finger leaves the send button no matter if the answer is a billion gigs
 
There would never be a need for such computational power and speed to send simple messages on Earth. What is useful though in this context is using this sort of computing to send messages to outposts around other planets.

This leap ahead creates a new trouble though that renders these old ideas and outlooks obsolete.
Sure this would be useful on Earth as it not only is almost literally instant transfer but wires might also become things of the past. In cell communications no matter mow many towers, networks or servers were involved your answer would always be there before your finger leaves the send button no matter if the answer is a billion gigs

There would be extensive disaster if these computers were common, given the current state of things with the internet that we already have.
 
Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.
What Google did was impressive, but the problem they chose was tailor made for quantum computing. That problem did not have much practical value, but they seem to be correct that conventional computers would take an inordinate time in solving the same problem.
.
 
You would have laughed at von braun when he wrote in his thesis that it should be possible to shoot to the moon...……..
Entanglement does not lead to communication faster than light. It is useful for creating unhackable communication, but only at light speed. Your cite never says it is faster than light. Only you seem to.

Otherwise in this paragraph you quoted....
"unhackable communication protocols that have long been pitched as one of the most useful applications of the technology."
...why don't they pitch faster than light rather than the unhackable. The reason is that it is not true.
 
Google announced Wednesday it designed a machine that would take only 200 seconds to solve a problem that the world's fastest computer would need 10,000 years to compute. ... Quantum computers have been touted as a way to solve problems that the Earth currently does not have enough computational power to tackle.
What Google did was impressive, but the problem they chose was tailor made for quantum computing. That problem did not have much practical value, but they seem to be correct that conventional computers would take an inordinate time in solving the same problem.
.
What Google did was to quantum computing is as sparking flint stones once was 100,000 years ago is to what nuclear fission is today. Your mind is flat and dead, in order for the Polynesians to cross the Pacific, they must have first dreamed of what was on the other side.

The World is not going to stay still and put because you are content

You are a life without a dream

We stay here, we die, which is why God brought us here, now we must follow in the fathers steps
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum List

Back
Top