How Does REAL ID Make an Airplane or Federal Building More Safe if You Are Already Searched and Unarmed?

[airplanemechanic]

I wonder how many of the 6,700 were law enforcement or military, 80%?

Would you feel safer if RealID linked up to a federal firearm database?

No, I'd be comfy knowing that everyone fixing to climb aboard a 300,000lb flying bomb has been properly vetted for the safety of the flying public, and the public and large.

I'm in favor of every felon who has been convicted of a violent felony to be banned from flying for life.

 

[braalian]

The 9/11 hijacker’s were in the country legally

 

[rightwinger]

No, I'd be comfy knowing that everyone fixing to climb aboard a 300,000lb flying bomb has been properly vetted for the safety of the flying public, and the public and large.

I'm in favor of every felon who has been convicted of a violent felony to be banned from flying for life.

I feel safer knowing that everyone and their luggage has been screened for guns, weapons and bombs.

Oh wait….we have been doing that for 20 years

 

[irosie91]

It doesn’t make you safer

yeah ---it does----real ID makes it harder of HOBBYIST mass murderers

 

[airplanemechanic]

I feel safer knowing that everyone and their luggage has been screened for guns, weapons and bombs.

Oh wait….we have been doing that for 20 years

We were doing that on 9/11. You see where that got us.

 

[rightwinger]

yeah ---it does----real ID makes it harder of HOBBYIST mass murderers

Someone with Real ID is capable of being a mass murderer

 

[rightwinger]

We were doing that on 9/11. You see where that got us.

No, we weren’t
Box cutters were allowed

 

[irosie91]

Someone with Real ID is capable of being a mass murderer

yes---but it is a slight deterrence Criminals really hate to be ID'ed

 

[braalian]

We were doing that on 9/11. You see where that got us.

Everything was completely different before 9/11

We all know that

 

[braalian]

If they’re able to plan a plane hijacking, pretty sure they can plan a trip to the DMV to get a star on their license

 

[marvin martian]

Considering terrorists used airplanes to kill 3000 Americans on 9/11, I have no problems with the gov't ensuring you are who you say you are if you want to board a 300,000lb flying bomb and fly over our nation. If states wouldn't be handing out ID cards like baseball cards in a middle school, you wouldn't need to do this shit.

There is no threat to your "freedom." You don't have a RIGHT to fly. If you want to travel, drive. Nobody checking your for real ID in your car.

I largely agree. In any case, once an illegal alien obtains a Real ID, either via fraud or enablement by a lefty government employee, and they will eventually, it's a moot point and becomes worthless as either a security tool or an identity verification one.

 

[braalian]

When was the last time an illegal alien used a drivers license to hijack a plane?

 

[meaner gene]

Considering terrorists used airplanes to kill 3000 Americans on 9/11, I have no problems with the gov't ensuring you are who you say you are if you want to board a 300,000lb flying bomb and fly over our nation. If states wouldn't be handing out ID cards like baseball cards in a middle school, you wouldn't need to do this shit.

There is no threat to your "freedom." You don't have a RIGHT to fly. If you want to travel, drive. Nobody checking your for real ID in your car.

Think about it. After 9-11 we knew the identity of all of the hijackers, because they showed ID.

But what good to knowing who they were do?

A search for box cutters would have prevented 9-11, while real-ID would not have.

 

[petro]

Where is the safety issue?

They are making millions of people jump through documentation hoops

How does it make flying safer?

For my wife she had the addition of having to provide a divorce decree from previous marriage and any name changes from maiden to first marriage to our current marriage. All documents that came from the government itself. They already know who the hell she is if they simply looked it up themselves.
The whole process is a ridiculous waste of time and money. Complete and perfect example of government waste.
Elon should have DOGEd it.

 

[meaner gene]

yes---but it is a slight deterrence Criminals really hate to be ID'ed

Actually criminals really hate to by fingerprinted and DNA tested.
Neither of which is required for real-ID.

 

[irosie91]

For my wife she had the addition of having to provide a divorce decree from previous marriage and any name changes from maiden to first marriage to our current marriage. All documents that came from the government itself. They already know who the hell she is if they simply looked it up themselves.
The whole process is a ridiculous waste of time and money. Complete and perfect example of government waste.
Elon should have DOGEd it.

all dealings with DA GOVERNMENT are a pain in the----behind

 

[irosie91]

Actually criminals really hate to by fingerprinted and DNA tested.
Neither of which is required for real-ID.

right----I said "slight deterrence" ----a picture helps make it worse----and---fingerprinting ----
well-----people would resist

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The 9/11 hijacker’s were in the country legally

So was the CIA

So was Larry Silverstein

So was whoever shorted airline stocks that morning

 

[meaner gene]

For my wife she had the addition of having to provide a divorce decree from previous marriage and any name changes from maiden to first marriage to our current marriage. All documents that came from the government itself. They already know who the hell she is if they simply looked it up themselves.
The whole process is a ridiculous waste of time and money. Complete and perfect example of government waste.
Elon should have DOGEd it.

It's politics.
Women tend to vote democrat
Men tend to vote republican.

Women have to provide many times the paperwork for the same ID a man only needs two pieces of paper for.

 

[meaner gene]

right----I said "slight deterrence" ----a picture helps make it worse----and---fingerprinting ----
well-----people would resist

If you want real-ID to be an actual real ID, it would contain non forge-able identification data.