How do you prove you are a US Citizens if you do not have a birth certificate?

[Rawley]

Not necessarily. She lived and worked with another family. Whether the mother giving up the child was illegal or not depends on circumstances. The family who unofficial adopted her most likely violating state law, usually a misdemeanor for not reporting it.

However, my housekeeper did not violate any immigration laws that warrant deportation. However, that would not keep her from being deported. Deportation is not punishment for a crime. It's an adjustment of immigration status.

For all anyone knows, including her, she could have been born in Guadalajara. No birth certificate, and she hasn't filed a tax return in over a decade - not a good story to tell.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We invite some of the most talented young people in the world to study at American universities, only to deny them the opportunity to stay and work here.

We also invite a bunch of whiny left-wing twats to study here.
They can mostly all **** off.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Or course I'm not OK with it. It has become necessary due our deeply flawed immigration system that Trump has replaced with dictates from a tyrannical leader.

People like my housekeeper and her two kids who have not violated our laws will probably suffer. If she just had 5 million dollar she could get a Trump 5 million dollar residents card.

You need to give her a raise, before she gets deported.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

She's been working off the books for more than a decade, she has certainly violated our laws. Her mother certainly violated our laws. The family that "adopted" her certainly violated our laws.

Sounds like the family that "adopted" her were also illegals, otherwise she'd have all the documents she needs.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

I believe that, like my housekeeper, many undocumented immigrants are not the cause of the problem—they are victims of a broken system. Consider the following examples:

• Parents who fail to provide documentation for their children, leaving them without legal status through no fault of their own.
• U.S. citizens who marry undocumented immigrants and then abandon them, leaving their spouses in legal limbo. These immigrants may be eligible for citizenship but are unable to apply without support.
• Asylum seekers who are accepted as candidates pending a final hearing, which can take years. During that time, they exist in a quasi-legal state: protected by court order but not granted legal status under the law.
• The largest group of undocumented immigrants are those who initially enter the country legally but overstay their visas. Many try to extend their stay or change their status by applying for new visas or requesting delays due to circumstances recognized by law or regulation. But with postponed hearings, lost paperwork, and bureaucratic delays, the process can drag on for months or even years. Some eventually give up—either leaving the country unnoticed or remaining in the U.S. without legal status.

That's rich...so how do you deduct social security from your housekeepers wages? how will he/she/they collect it when the time comes? do you think/believe you are breaking any laws?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How do they ID youdumbfuck? REMEMBER YOUMAGATARDS don't want a hearing.

They could find me in the system in less than 2 minutes. No hearing needed. DURR

Now let's ship out some more illegals today. Happy Juneteenth!!!

 

[progressive hunter]

If ICE arrests you right ******* now, they can deport you
.

you cant deport american citizens you stupid ****,,

 

[progressive hunter]

How do they ID youdumbfuck? REMEMBER YOUMAGATARDS don't want a hearing.

all they have to do is provide documentation they are here legally,,

that doesnt require a hearing,,

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's rich...so how do you deduct social security from your housekeepers wages? how will he/she/they collect it when the time comes? do you think/believe you are breaking any laws?

He hasn't submitted the employer portion of her payroll taxes to the government.
That's a crime.

 

[martybegan]

If ICE arrests you right ******* now, they can deport you
.

Only after they try to confirm my identity and my immigration status.

And when they do that, they would find I am a natural born US Citizen, and I would get released with a "sorry"

 

[Rawley]

If ICE arrests you right ******* now, they can deport you
.

Not when I show them my Driver's License.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

How do you prove you are a US Citizens if you do not have a birth certificate?​

Hire a lawyer who knows the right judge.

 

[Orangecat]

My housekeeper ask me this. Her mother was a migrant farm worker. Soon after her birth another family unofficially adopted her. She believes she was born in August 1998 in Southern California or Arizona but she is not sure. She is afraid to go to an immigration office because ICE is monitoring the offices. She ask me if there was a state or national database where she can search for her birth certificate.

27 year old housekeeper? Hottie or fattie?

 

[Concerned American]

Parents who fail to provide documentation for their children, leaving them without legal status through no fault of their own.

No fault of America's either. Taxpayers shouldn't be penalized because people broke the law. They are not the villains, the parents created their children's problems. Things are rough all over.

U.S. citizens who marry undocumented immigrants and then abandon them, leaving their spouses in legal limbo. These immigrants may be eligible for citizenship but are unable to apply without support.

Marriage for the benefit of citizenship is illegal. Deport.

Asylum seekers who are accepted as candidates pending a final hearing, which can take years. During that time, they exist in a quasi-legal state: protected by court order but not granted legal status under the law.

Stay in Mexico or seek asylum in the first country they come to. Deport.

The largest group of undocumented immigrants are those who initially enter the country legally but overstay their visas.

Criminal illegal immigrants. Deport with no possibility of reentry.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

There is nothing fair about our immigration laws.

hmmm

Donald Trump has already demonstrated that our immigration laws are not enforceable.

so good thing or bad thing?

In a second term, he has declare a national emergency that would allow him to bypass existing immigration laws

so good thing or bad thing?

 

[Concerned American]

Birth certificates are registered in the hospital and state where the birth occurred. They can usually be obtained by applying for a certified copy. If you were born some time ago the hospital may not be still there, or the certificate may not have been registered or lost. When my wife was getting her passport (also to get a real id 2 years ago) a few years ago they wouldn't accept her bc because she had a military birth certificate that was issued at Corona at the Marine base and was not registered in the State of California. She had to obtain one from Sacramento after she had a notarized affidavit from the manager of her bank for 40 years stating that she was who she says she is with bank records. I don't know how it works now, the social security system is compromised pretty badly.

Your wife should contact the state department. I was in a similar situation forty years ago when attempting to obtain a passport. I was born in a military hospital in Japan and lost my birth certificate. I wrote the state department and received a copy of my birth certificate in the mail.

 

[Flopper]

You do stay in holding for a while when they ID you, dumfuck.

All you need to do is tell them where you were born, your name, and the date, and the records department of that County, City or State can pop it right up.

There is no central database of birth certificates in the US and most state, county and city birth certificate records are not online. However, they can be validate if you have one in hand.

It is now the responsibility of the detainee to show proof of legal residency. Prior to Trump, it was ICE's job to determine if you are here legally. ICE's job now is to apprehend those suspected of being in the country illegally and hold them for deportation. There will be a deportation hearing for the group scheduled to be deportation. At that hearing, the judge ask is there any proof showing legal residency in the US. If you have none, you are deported. Fast, efficient, and very prone to error. You may still request a hearing, however the chance of getting a hearing is pretty remote.

What is being done is contrary to our immigration laws and the constitution. The court is allowing Trump to do this because of he has declared National emergency at the border. Challenges to constitutionality is defended using various enemy alien acts that go back as for as 200 years.

If you look illegal, you better have proof on you.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

We tell people around the world to “get in line” and apply legally but for a third of the world, there is no line. The average worker has virtually no chance of immigrating to the United States.

So that would prove anyone here [U.S.] from those unspecified places you refer to are certainly here illegally, correct?

 

[Flopper]

hmmm

so good thing or bad thing?

so good thing or bad thing?

Whether it is good or bad depends on what side of the fence you are on. If your primary concern is getting rid of all those people that don't look and sound like Americans, then I guest it would be good thing.

However, if your primary concern is fairness and justice in accordance with our laws and the constitution, what we are doing now is pretty bad and that is the way history will reflect it, not how many people got deported a day.

 

[martybegan]

There is no central database of birth certificates in the US and most state, county and city birth certificate records are not online. However, they can be validate if you have one in hand.

It is now the responsibility of the detainee to show proof of legal residency. Prior to Trump, it was ICE's job to determine if you are here legally. ICE's job now is to apprehend those suspected of being in the country illegally and hold them for deportation. There will be a deportation hearing for the group scheduled to be deportation. At that hearing, the judge ask is there any proof showing legal residency in the US. If you have none, you are deported. Fast, efficient, and very prone to error. You may still request a hearing, however the chance of getting a hearing is pretty remote.

What is being done is contrary to our immigration laws and the constitution. The court is allowing Trump to do this because of he has declared National emergency at the border. Challenges to constitutionality is defended using various enemy alien acts that go back as for as 200 years.

If you look illegal, you better have proof on you.

Letting people flood across was contrary to our laws, as are the fake asylum claims foisted as the way to stat here by unlimited immigration advocates.

Trump is doing what he said he would do.