How do you prove you are a US Citizens if you do not have a birth certificate?

[Dekster]

My housekeeper ask me this. Her mother was a migrant farm worker. Soon after her birth another family unofficially adopted her. She believes she was born in August 1998 in Southern California or Arizona but she is not sure. She is afraid to go to an immigration office because ICE is monitoring the offices. She ask me if there was a state or national database where she can search for her birth certificate.

start with https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CH...aining-Certified-Copies-of-Birth-Records.aspx

AZDHS | Vital Records

Obtain certified copies of a birth and death certificates.

www.azdhs.gov

If those don't work she can try to go through an arcane process that could need a lawyer or a congressional caseworkers help. It may involve tracking down people who knew her mother when and where she was born; seeing if there is any evidence in family bibles; see if the school she first attended still exists and has anything. There is a work around process that is a hold over from the days of black hospitals or home birthing where records no longer exist but she needs to start working on it. If she waits until she is 65 it may be too late.

 

[martybegan]

I don't. Do you carry your birth certificate with you?

I keep it with my other documents in a fire resistant lock box, with my Social security card, my car's title, my baptismal certificate, my diplomas, and other documents.

I also know if anyone needs to check it, they can find it in NYC records files/site, as I was born in NYC.

Who said anything about having to carry it with you?

 

[progressive hunter]

Or course I'm not OK with it. It has become necessary due our deeply flawed immigration system that Trump has replaced with dictates from a tyrannical leader.

People like my housekeeper and her two kids who have not violated our laws will probably suffer. If she just had 5 million dollar she could get a Trump 5 million dollar residents card.

there is nothing wrong with our immigration system other than we dont enforce the laws on illegals enough,,

I would go further and say our system needs to reduce the amount allowed in if not stopped for a few yrs to get a grip on the illegals currently here,,

 

[Zincwarrior]

I keep it with my other documents in a fire resistant lock box, with my Social security card, my car's title, my baptismal certificate, my diplomas, and other documents.

I also know if anyone needs to check it, they can find it in NYC records files/site, as I was born in NYC.

Who said anything about having to carry it with you?

Do you keep that shit ONYOU?

 

[martybegan]

Do you keep that shit ONYOU?

Again, who said anything about keeping it on me?

That isn't the point of this thread, dumbass.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Again, who said anything about keeping it on me?

That isn't the point of this thread, dumbass.

Yes it is dumbass when they put you in cuffs and ship your ass to another country.

 

[martybegan]

Yes it is dumbass when they put you in cuffs and ship your ass to another country.

You do stay in holding for a while when they ID you, dumfuck.

All you need to do is tell them where you were born, your name, and the date, and the records department of that County, City or State can pop it right up.

 

[Flopper]

If you were born in another land, having a birth certificate may not be helpful.

If you were born in the USA and don’t have a birth certificate, they aren’t exactly difficult to obtain.

If you can’t get it, maybe, in fact, you aren’t a U.S. citizen.

It can be quite difficult if you were abandon by your parents which is not uncommon with migrants. Migrant families often take in children that are not their own.

If you were born in another land, having a birth certificate may not be helpful.

If you were born in the USA and don’t have a birth certificate, they aren’t exactly difficult to obtain.

If you can’t get it, maybe, in fact, you aren’t a U.S. citizen.

You don't know your birth date or where you were born?

As I said, if you were abandon by your parents which really does happen among migrants, particular when there is only one parent, another family may takes the child. A temporary arrangement becomes permanent. For migrant workers, moving from farm to farm and state to state, birthdates and birthplaces of kids are often lost in the shuffle. Although not so common today, 20 or 30 years ago births in migrant housing was not uncommon. That is where my housekeeper said she was born.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You do stay in holding for a while when they ID you, dumfuck.

All you need to do is tell them where you were born, your name, and the date, and the records department of that County, City or State can pop it right up.

How do they ID youdumbfuck? REMEMBER YOUMAGATARDS don't want a hearing.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

1998 is hardly the good old days. The story stinks. However, birth records are kept by the Registrar of the County Recorder, Bureau of Vital Statistics. She would have to search county by county. If she doesn't know where she was born, her name at birth, her parent's names or the date of birth, get your skis out. This is a world class snow job. She's is probably looking for an identity to steal.

 

[martybegan]

How do they ID youdumbfuck? REMEMBER YOUMAGATARDS don't want a hearing.

You don't need a hearing for ICE to ask you your name, and the other things, stupid.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It can be quite difficult if you were abandon by your parents which is not uncommon with migrants. Migrant families often take in children that are not their own.



As I said, if you were abandon by your parents which really does happen among migrants, particular when there is only one parent, another family may takes the child. A temporary arrangement becomes permanent. For migrant workers, moving from farm to farm and state to state, birthdates and birthplaces of kids are often lost in the shuffle. Although not so common today, 20 or 30 years ago births in migrant housing was not uncommon. That is where my housekeeper said she was born.

The appropriate action would be for her to be deported with the migrant family. Your explanation is that there might not be a birth certificate at all since children get passed around. If that is the case, mother was a migrant, likely here illegally, who dropped her load and drifted away. This doesn't help any claim to citizenship. Your identity less friend has never seen a doctor, never gone to school, doesn't have a social security number and no driver's license. In reality, this is just another garden variety illegal alien. Deport her.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You don't need a hearing for ICE to ask you your name, and the other things, stupid.

You need a hearing yo keep them from deporting your Yankee ass to CECOT.

 

[progressive hunter]

You need a hearing yo keep them from deporting your Yankee ass to CECOT.

if hes a yankee that means hes an american and he cant be deported dumbass,,

 

[Zincwarrior]

if hes a yankee that means hes an american and he cant be deported dumbass,,

Bullshit Russian. No docs, no proof.

 

[Flopper]

She's been working off the books for more than a decade, she has certainly violated our laws. Her mother certainly violated our laws. The family that "adopted" her certainly violated our laws.

Not necessarily. She lived and worked with another family. Whether the mother giving up the child was illegal or not depends on circumstances. The family who unofficial adopted her most likely violating state law, usually a misdemeanor for not reporting it.

However, my housekeeper did not violate any immigration laws that warrant deportation. However, that would not keep her from being deported. Deportation is not punishment for a crime. It's an adjustment of immigration status.

 

[progressive hunter]

Bullshit Russian. No docs, no proof.

every illegal deported was given the chance to provide documents to prove they are here legally,,

 

[martybegan]

You need a hearing yo keep them from deporting your Yankee ass to CECOT.

Nope. They would be able to figure out I'm a citizen with a quick check of the NYC hall of records.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Nope. They would be able to figure out I'm a citizen with a quick check of the NYC hall of records.

If ICE arrests you right ******* now, they can deport you
.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

My housekeeper ask me this. Her mother was a migrant farm worker. Soon after her birth another family unofficially adopted her. She believes she was born in August 1998 in Southern California or Arizona but she is not sure. She is afraid to go to an immigration office because ICE is monitoring the offices. She ask me if there was a state or national database where she can search for her birth certificate.

Hospitals send birth info to the state.
If she doesn't already have that info, she's probably out of luck.