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How do you actually stop mass public shootings....people know of an attack, and tell the police...and the police intervene...no new gun laws needed...

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You will never hear about this on democrat party media.......there was supposed to be another mass public shooting on the 4th of July.....it never happened......a citizen found out about the plot, told the police....and, amazingly, they actually did something about it...

Notice in this story....gun control laws did not stop the attack...in fact, they couldn't even stop illegal aliens from getting guns.......

We stop mass public shootings by having people speak up ....not by banning guns for normal people....

The sad thing? Their bale was set at 15,000 dollars......they just need 1,500 dollars to walk out of the jail....that is the biggest problem we have......

On Wednesday,…the Richmond Police Department announced the arrests of Guatemalan nationals 52-year-old illegal alien Julio Alvardo Dubon and 38-year-old illegal alien Rolman Balacarcel Ac for allegedly plotting a mass shooting at the city’s July 4th celebration.
According to Police Chief Gerald Smith, Dubon and Ac’s plan was thwarted thanks to an American “hero citizen” who overheard a conversation about the plot and subsequently called the police.
Why might two illegal aliens, one of whom had been deported twice, want to commit mass murder at a 4th of July parade?

Smith said they still do not have a clear motive as to why the pair allegedly sought to conduct a mass shooting on American citizens on July 4th.
I’m guessing we never will learn the answer to that question.

[P]olice raided Dubon’s residence to find two rifles, a handgun, and 223 rounds of ammunition. Dubon was subsequently charged with being in possession of a firearm as an alien to the U.S.

 

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Must have been a police department full of Republicans or Libertarians.......no DemonicRat in their deranged mind would lift a finger to do anything for anyone. Uvalde is proof positive on that.
 

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You will never hear about this on democrat party media.......there was supposed to be another mass public shooting on the 4th of July.....it never happened......a citizen found out about the plot, told the police....and, amazingly, they actually did something about it...

Notice in this story....gun control laws did not stop the attack...in fact, they couldn't even stop illegal aliens from getting guns.......

We stop mass public shootings by having people speak up ....not by banning guns for normal people....

The sad thing? Their bale was set at 15,000 dollars......they just need 1,500 dollars to walk out of the jail....that is the biggest problem we have......


Why might two illegal aliens, one of whom had been deported twice, want to commit mass murder at a 4th of July parade?


I’m guessing we never will learn the answer to that question.




Great story. Sounds like somebody red flag lawed their ass, before a crime could be committed.
 

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You will never hear about this on democrat party media.......there was supposed to be another mass public shooting on the 4th of July.....it never happened......a citizen found out about the plot, told the police....and, amazingly, they actually did something about it...

Notice in this story....gun control laws did not stop the attack...in fact, they couldn't even stop illegal aliens from getting guns.......

We stop mass public shootings by having people speak up ....not by banning guns for normal people....

The sad thing? Their bale was set at 15,000 dollars......they just need 1,500 dollars to walk out of the jail....that is the biggest problem we have......


Why might two illegal aliens, one of whom had been deported twice, want to commit mass murder at a 4th of July parade?


I’m guessing we never will learn the answer to that question.




Aww, c'mon, man. They're just good Democrats.
 

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The best mass shooting is the one that is stopped before it starts. On the flip side, no gun law would have stopped the Highland Park shooting since the shooter's Dad got the guns for him.
 

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The best mass shooting is the one that is stopped before it starts. On the flip side, no gun law would have stopped the Highland Park shooting since the shooter's Dad got the guns for him.

The argument from his dad doesn't pass the smell test. Thinking his son was going to "use the guns at the target range" defies logic when he has attempted suicide, threatened others, had his sword and knives confiscated due to the perceived threat and clearly posts disturbing, violent posts on social media.

Who under those circumstances, would believe that arming such a kid with multiple guns made any sense?

Someone with mental health issues shouldn't be walking aroung with an AR-15
 

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You will never hear about this on democrat party media.......there was supposed to be another mass public shooting on the 4th of July.....it never happened......a citizen found out about the plot, told the police....and, amazingly, they actually did something about it...

Notice in this story....gun control laws did not stop the attack...in fact, they couldn't even stop illegal aliens from getting guns.......

We stop mass public shootings by having people speak up ....not by banning guns for normal people....

The sad thing? Their bale was set at 15,000 dollars......they just need 1,500 dollars to walk out of the jail....that is the biggest problem we have......


Why might two illegal aliens, one of whom had been deported twice, want to commit mass murder at a 4th of July parade?


I’m guessing we never will learn the answer to that question.




Yeah, both are illegal aliens who ended up getting guns. I think the Biden AG, allows the criminals to get the guns and use them on the citizens, so eventually the citizens will vote to give up there guns..

A little history.
Remember when Barack Obama and Eric Holder allowed guns to be put in the hands of Mexican drug cartels? | JTF
As reported by the New York Post, the operation was a Department of Justice-run program that allowed thousands of rifles including .50-caliber rifles with a range of nearly two miles and powerful enough to take down a helicopter to be sold to the cartels, allegedly so they could be “tracked” back to the illegal drug-running operations.
However, the Post noted, “internal documents later revealed the real goal was to gin up a crisis requiring a crackdown on guns in America. (Related: MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: Official story of Las Vegas shooting unravels; physical impossibility of lone gunman senior citizen makes narrative ludicrous.)
Now we all know that the recent shooters have all been cleard by the ATF&E Headquarters where all weapons background checks must go through. What if Joe Biden's DOJ wanted to allow all these shooters to get their guns? “internal documents later revealed the real goal was to gin up a crisis requiring a crackdown on guns in America."


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The best mass shooting is the one that is stopped before it starts. On the flip side, no gun law would have stopped the Highland Park shooting since the shooter's Dad got the guns for him.


That isn't true....at the time of the shooting he is 21......the dad signing off on getting his FOID card doesn't really matter....at 21, he could have gotten his own FOID, and purchased the guns on his own......he bought the guns himself, he had some sort of money from his youtube videos....
 

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Great story. Sounds like somebody red flag lawed their ass, before a crime could be committed.
No; it wasn't a red-flag law. Red flag laws take the guns of those legally able to own them without giving due process and before the crime is committed.

These were illegal aliens, in the country illegal - already criminals. They were breaking the law and conspiring to commit murder. The crimes were already committed and more planned.
 

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The argument from his dad doesn't pass the smell test. Thinking his son was going to "use the guns at the target range" defies logic when he has attempted suicide, threatened others, had his sword and knives confiscated due to the perceived threat and clearly posts disturbing, violent posts on social media.

Who under those circumstances, would believe that arming such a kid with multiple guns made any sense?

Someone with mental health issues shouldn't be walking aroung with an AR-15
The police and the doctors at the time didn't flag him as dangerous but the father was supposed to know? Do you think his father knew he was going to go on a shooting spree so he helped him to get guns? Or do you think maybe the father is just an idiot who didn't want to see his own son as the wacko he was - because no parent ever did that before, failed to see their own child as a wacko.
 
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No; it wasn't a red-flag law. Red flag laws take the guns of those legally able to own them without giving due process and before the crime is committed.

These were illegal aliens, in the country illegal - already criminals. They were breaking the law and conspiring to commit murder. The crimes were already committed and more planned.


Excellent point.............
 
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The argument from his dad doesn't pass the smell test. Thinking his son was going to "use the guns at the target range" defies logic when he has attempted suicide, threatened others, had his sword and knives confiscated due to the perceived threat and clearly posts disturbing, violent posts on social media.

Who under those circumstances, would believe that arming such a kid with multiple guns made any sense?

Someone with mental health issues shouldn't be walking aroung with an AR-15

He was 21 on the 4th...that means his fathers role in getting the guns isn't relevant.......he could have gotten the FOID and the guns all on his own at 21........
 

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No; it wasn't a red-flag law. Red flag laws take the guns of those legally able to own them without giving due process and before the crime is committed.

These were illegal aliens, in the country illegal - already criminals. They were breaking the law and conspiring to commit murder. The crimes were already committed and more planned.
Red Flag laws can indeed cast a wide net, snagging what you and I think of as criminals, but what family members think of as friends and loved ones, they may not have interfered with until they notified authorities, to prevent something they just could not stand by and watch happen to them, loved ones or others.
 

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Red Flag laws can indeed cast a wide net, snagging what you and I think of as criminals, but what family members think of as friends and loved ones, they may not have interfered with until they notified authorities, to prevent something they just could not stand by and watch happen to them, loved ones or others.
Nice explanation of red flag laws. Of course it has nothing to do with this story or this thread because North Carolina doesn't have red flag laws. It wasn't a red flag law that got those guys' guns taken; it was their crimes but thanks for sharing.

By your logic, every time an armed criminal is arrested it is a red flag law; it's not that they're arrested.

Once you get hold of a stupid idea, you just never let it go.
 

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