How do we stop "the poor" from being so problematic?

[Rustic]

There are just some jobs that are absolutely not worth any more than seven dollars an hour, like flipping burgers and stocking shelves. Those are beginner/temporary jobs and should be paid as so

I guess small business owners will have to do more for less; thank goodness they are not, all about the money.

Raising the minimum wage on beginner/temporary jobs only hurt small business…

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

People should not be expected to except the federal government's failure to be functional and efficient…

 

[BrokeLoser]

The newly formed Department of Reproduction would create a TON of jobs. EVERY time that an individual planned to have sex, each partner would have to file an application, which would have to be reviewed by a federal employee. PERFECT!

Shit, that sounds far more difficult than carrying silver tooth, snot nosed anchor babies around on my payroll....haha
(that's a fecetio

You realize that EVERYONE would have to file an application with the Federal Government prior to having sex, which would mean that the Federal Government would know when you were having sex and with whom.

Is this what you mean by limited government?

Are you struggling to wrap your little tiny peanut brain around the difference between having sex and having a child?
See how you whackos think...having sex automatically means having a child....haha...you poor, lost and confused low-life's

Does that mean that the Federal Department of Reproduction would only have jurisdiction over planned pregnancies? Unintended pregnancies would be exempt from Federal approval?

Or would a pregnancy that did not have Federal clearance be considered a felony? Or maybe the pregnancy would be aborted by the government?

You are correct that having sex does not automatically mean having a child...but for every child born, sex was had.

You would think the government would start promoting homosexuality as a cost-cutting measure. Gay sex means no pregnancies.

BINGO...You may be on to something there....haha.
Hell, I'm all for it so long as it stays among and within Blacks and Hispanics. Because they reproduce such total awesomeness....haha

 

[xotoxi]

I guess small business owners will have to do more for less; thank goodness they are not, all about the money.

Raising the minimum wage on beginner/temporary jobs only hurt small business…

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

 

[Wyatt earp]

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

...but it is. And there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

Na, those type of jobs don't deserve a "career" paying type of a paycheck. Mainly because no one can make any money off $15 an hour for burger flippers and shelf stockers and the like.

Which is why people working those types of jobs need external financial assistance.

No they don't. They need their employers to pay them a living wage. In every other first world country in the world except the United States, workers are paid a living wage. Full time workers are not provided with income supplements, nor do are they given earned income credits. All workers pay income taxes. Only in the United States are federal taxes used to supplement the wages of full-time workers.

McDonalds Canada pays workers in Canada $11.40 an hour, as does Walmart, and yet both companies are highly profitable here. The same is true in every other first world country where both of these companies do business. The idea that paying their employees a living wage would drive these companies out of business is a total fallacy.

The richest country in the world, with the richest corporations in the world, don't pay working people a living wage. And you keep voting for the party that refuses to change this paradigm.

You have no middle class anymore in Canada nor in GB, I don't see any Canadian plates on cars no more down here why is that? High taxes and trickle up poor in Canada.


BTW a high minimum wage don't cure the working poor...they still have them in high minimum wage country's like New Zealand and Australia...



For instance, this paper from 2014 found that American minimum wage increases during the late 2000s increased the unemployment-to-population ratio by 0.7 percentage points.

A 2012 study that looked at 33 different countries between 1971 and 2009 found raising minimum wages "reduce employment levels amongst young people and those at the margins of work".

This 2011 paper finds that minimum wages cause employers to favour young workers from more privileged householdsthan less privileged ones.

This study concludes that the minimum wage hurts job growth over time, a burden that falls most on young workers and low-wage industries.

And in a 2003 paper, Australian economist-turned-politician Andrew Leigh also found small but real unemployment costs of the minimum wage.


.

 

[ricechickie]

Shit, that sounds far more difficult than carrying silver tooth, snot nosed anchor babies around on my payroll....haha
(that's a fecetio

You realize that EVERYONE would have to file an application with the Federal Government prior to having sex, which would mean that the Federal Government would know when you were having sex and with whom.

Is this what you mean by limited government?

Are you struggling to wrap your little tiny peanut brain around the difference between having sex and having a child?
See how you whackos think...having sex automatically means having a child....haha...you poor, lost and confused low-life's

Does that mean that the Federal Department of Reproduction would only have jurisdiction over planned pregnancies? Unintended pregnancies would be exempt from Federal approval?

Or would a pregnancy that did not have Federal clearance be considered a felony? Or maybe the pregnancy would be aborted by the government?

You are correct that having sex does not automatically mean having a child...but for every child born, sex was had.

You would think the government would start promoting homosexuality as a cost-cutting measure. Gay sex means no pregnancies.

BINGO...You may be on to something there....haha.
Hell, I'm all for it so long as it stays among and within Blacks and Hispanics. Because they reproduce such total awesomeness....haha

Can you say anything without being a total fucking racist reprobate?

 

[Rustic]

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

...but it is. And there is nothing that anyone can do about it.

Na, those type of jobs don't deserve a "career" paying type of a paycheck. Mainly because no one can make any money off $15 an hour for burger flippers and shelf stockers and the like.

Which is why people working those types of jobs need external financial assistance.

No they don't. They need their employers to pay them a living wage. In every other first world country in the world except the United States, workers are paid a living wage. Full time workers are not provided with income supplements, nor do are they given earned income credits. All workers pay income taxes. Only in the United States are federal taxes used to supplement the wages of full-time workers.

McDonalds Canada pays workers in Canada $11.40 an hour, as does Walmart, and yet both companies are highly profitable here. The same is true in every other first world country where both of these companies do business. The idea that paying their employees a living wage would drive these companies out of business is a total fallacy.

The richest country in the world, with the richest corporations in the world, don't pay working people a living wage. And you keep voting for the party that refuses to change this paradigm.

The federal government has no credibility to determine what jobs pay what, there is no way a company should be forced to pay for something that puts them into the red… There's no reason to even own a business if you can't make profit.

 

[xotoxi]

Oh no...there is no denial of ones right to procreate...one must simply show ability to be self funded and self sustained before procreating. DONE!

The newly formed Department of Reproduction would create a TON of jobs. EVERY time that an individual planned to have sex, each partner would have to file an application, which would have to be reviewed by a federal employee. PERFECT!

Shit, that sounds far more difficult than carrying silver tooth, snot nosed anchor babies around on my payroll....haha
(that's a fecetio

You realize that EVERYONE would have to file an application with the Federal Government prior to having sex, which would mean that the Federal Government would know when you were having sex and with whom.

Is this what you mean by limited government?

Are you struggling to wrap your little tiny peanut brain around the difference between having sex and having a child?
See how you whackos think...having sex automatically means having a child....haha...you poor, lost and confused low-life's

And how would you prevent pregnancies with persons whose religion does not allow birth control? Would you force abortions on those who become pregnant and do not meet your criteria?

Clearly if we were going to have a Federal Department of Reproduction, religious freedom would no longer be an issue.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Raising the minimum wage on beginner/temporary jobs only hurt small business…

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

Hey look...I see little wrong with adults working a child's job for life.
Where it becomes a wrong is when Juan, the burger flipper has six babies he can't afford on his salary then sends me the invoice and or begs and whines about needing more from consumers and taxpayers to pay for his poor decision making. Come on man... you can't be that stupid...not unless you're a Juan yourself?
In the real world if you want more you have to be willing to do more...you can't stand before your peers with a sad face and a hand out every time you want more. Sorry.

 

[Rustic]

Raising the minimum wage on beginner/temporary jobs only hurt small business…

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

 

[xotoxi]

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

I never said they should make $15 per hour...but they need to have money to live. Where should that money come from? The employer? The government? Should those people just die in the streets?

 

[BrokeLoser]

You realize that EVERYONE would have to file an application with the Federal Government prior to having sex, which would mean that the Federal Government would know when you were having sex and with whom.

Is this what you mean by limited government?

Are you struggling to wrap your little tiny peanut brain around the difference between having sex and having a child?
See how you whackos think...having sex automatically means having a child....haha...you poor, lost and confused low-life's

Does that mean that the Federal Department of Reproduction would only have jurisdiction over planned pregnancies? Unintended pregnancies would be exempt from Federal approval?

Or would a pregnancy that did not have Federal clearance be considered a felony? Or maybe the pregnancy would be aborted by the government?

You are correct that having sex does not automatically mean having a child...but for every child born, sex was had.

You would think the government would start promoting homosexuality as a cost-cutting measure. Gay sex means no pregnancies.

BINGO...You may be on to something there....haha.
Hell, I'm all for it so long as it stays among and within Blacks and Hispanics. Because they reproduce such total awesomeness....haha

Can you say anything without being a total fucking racist reprobate?

Only a sackless pussy would mask the truth out of fear of being considered a racist. The truth always prevails for me...Sorry, I know how you guys hate truth and facts.

 

[Rustic]

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

I never said they should make $15 per hour...but they need to have money to live. Where should that money come from? The employer? The government? Should those people just die in the streets?

The last person that should be on the hook is the employer...
Maybe they can move to a sanctuary city and let them fuckers pay for them?

 

[xotoxi]

There are no "beginner/temporary jobs", there are only jobs. The myth that only teenagers work at McDonalds or Walmart is just that - a myth. The average age of a those making minimum wage at McDonalds, is 27. Hardly a teenager, or a beginning worker.

All of the jobs my father did as an employee are gone off-shore, or replaced by automation. Many of the jobs I did as a young office clerk have been replaced by automation. I have watched entire sectors of the legal services business disappear with computerization. I have so many clerical skills that no one uses anymore, from my days working for banks before computerization. But workers either evolve or they get left behind.

I'm smart, and a quick study. Acquiring new skills was easy for me, and I have a natural affiliation for computers. In the 1980's I started writing simple legal apps which helped me do my work better and faster than anybody else, and then I started selling them.

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

Hey look...I see little wrong with adults working a child's job for life.
Where it becomes a wrong is when Juan, the burger flipper has six babies he can't afford on his salary then sends me the invoice and or begs and whines about needing more from consumers and taxpayers to pay for his poor decision making. Come on man... you can't be that stupid...not unless you're a Juan yourself?
In the real world if you want more you have to be willing to do more...you can't stand before your peers with a sad face and a hand out every time you want more. Sorry.

But what can you do about that?

And just to be clear, the adult burger flipper is more likely to be a Randy than a Juan.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Flipping burgers and stocking shelves will never be a "career" and never should be…

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

I never said they should make $15 per hour...but they need to have money to live. Where should that money come from? The employer? The government? Should those people just die in the streets?

Hand them a free fishing pole, a tent and a free bus ride to a resource rich forest of their choice....It would be like the old days when adults had to fend for themselves...before suckers would drop free shit in the laps of begging bottom feeders.

 

[xotoxi]

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

I never said they should make $15 per hour...but they need to have money to live. Where should that money come from? The employer? The government? Should those people just die in the streets?

The last person that should be on the hook is the employer...
Maybe they can move to a sanctuary city and let them fuckers pay for them?

Then the government should provide assistance.

 

[P@triot]

.....brought to you by the party of limited government.

Give credit where credit is due...that was a damn funny line by ricechickie

Well done

 

[xotoxi]

Why should those jobs not be careers if that is all that is available or more importantly, that is all a person is capable of. You are disparaging people who are willing to work at low paying jobs without knowing why that person may be restricted to a low paying job. On the one hand, you are whining about people collecting assistance and on the other hand whining about them when they work at a low paying job.

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

I never said they should make $15 per hour...but they need to have money to live. Where should that money come from? The employer? The government? Should those people just die in the streets?

Hand them a free fishing pole, a tent and a free bus ride to a resource rich forest of their choice....It would be like the old days when adults had to fend for themselves...before suckers would drop free shit in the laps of begging bottom feeders.

You would like to force hundreds of thousands...or even millions...of poor adults to leave the city or town in which they live and move into the woods and live off the land?

Are you going to flip your own burgers and collect your own trash?

 

[P@triot]

Then the government should provide assistance.

Based on what? Where is it written that government "should" provide assistance? Sure as hell is not in the U.S. Constitution.

 

[xotoxi]

Then the government should provide assistance.

Based on what? Where is it written that government "should" provide assistance? Sure as hell is not in the U.S. Constitution.

Then the employer should provide assistance.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Because in the real world humans with brains are suppose to tailor their lifestyle to their income and not leverage their employers to tailor their income to their lifestyle....you understand the concept right? Employers shouldn't be held accountable for Juans lack of intelligence and poor decision making....right?
Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs designed for high school kids and the brainless.
If 35 year old Juan and Guadalupe weren't trying to make burger flipping a lifelong career we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would this be an issue if we sent 10 million or so Juan's and Guadalupe's home with their six anchors?
Doesn't that seem easier?

How many people out there that are flipping burgers as adults do you think have the intelligence to do anything more complex?

There are a lot of adults that are simply not smart, and it does not mean that they are lazy or they don't apply themselves or don't try hard. It means that they are not smart. And if flipping burgers, or collecting trash, or sweeping the floor is the best they can do, that's great. You should thank them for it, rather than telling them that they are a drain on society and they should try to make something of themselves.

By paying $15 an hour to them people for those types of jobs is absolute insanity… and no company should be forced into that. Like a said, there's no reason whatsoever to own a business if you cannot make profit…

I never said they should make $15 per hour...but they need to have money to live. Where should that money come from? The employer? The government? Should those people just die in the streets?

Hand them a free fishing pole, a tent and a free bus ride to a resource rich forest of their choice....It would be like the old days when adults had to fend for themselves...before suckers would drop free shit in the laps of begging bottom feeders.

You would like to force hundreds of thousands...or even millions...of poor adults to leave the city or town in which they live and move into the woods and live off the land?

Are you going to flip your own burgers and collect your own trash?

That would be awesome!
We have plenty of willing, real American 16 year olds who have been edged out of gaining work experience because Juan and Guadalupe have had a stranglehold on brainless jobs.