How do we get out of this?

[Billiejeens]

Of course they do

But not by having Israel set the terms of that freedom
How is Gaza working out ?

Hamas destroyed GAZA.

 

[Luckyone]

The invention of MALINFORMATION was just incredible.

TRUTH, BUT TRUTH THAT IS BAD TO KNOW!

FOCKING CULT BULLCRAP.

The invention of Trump as a president that tells the truth is "focking cult bullcrap". Just yesterday, he and his Media Regulator menaced media companies if they do not report the news as they want them to:

Trump team applying pressure to media: Tell the war’s storythe way we see it​

The Republican president has fumed on social media about stories he doesn't like and berated a reporter on Air Force One.​

Through lectures, scoldings and outright threats, President Donald Trump and his aides are ratcheting up the pressure on journalists to cover the war in the Middle East the way the administration wants.

The Republican president has fumed on social media about stories he doesn’t like and berated a reporter on Air Force One. The government’s top media regulator has warned that broadcasters risk losing their licenses if they don’t stay away from “fake news.” Trump and his defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, have questioned the patriotism of news outlets because of their reporting.

FCC chair threatens broadcasters' licenses over negative coverage of the war in Iran​

President Trump, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and FCC Chair Brendan Carr have assailed the media over coverage of the war in Iran. Carr now threatens broadcast license owners with repercussions.

Once again, Trump acting like a dictator by menacing the media's approach to negative news about him, meaning "Free Speech" be damned.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The invention of Trump as a president that tells the truth is "focking cult bullcrap". Just yesterday, he and his Media Regulator menaced media companies if they do not report the news as they want them to:

Trump team applying pressure to media: Tell the war’s storythe way we see it​

The Republican president has fumed on social media about stories he doesn't like and berated a reporter on Air Force One.​

Through lectures, scoldings and outright threats, President Donald Trump and his aides are ratcheting up the pressure on journalists to cover the war in the Middle East the way the administration wants.

The Republican president has fumed on social media about stories he doesn’t like and berated a reporter on Air Force One. The government’s top media regulator has warned that broadcasters risk losing their licenses if they don’t stay away from “fake news.” Trump and his defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, have questioned the patriotism of news outlets because of their reporting.

FCC chair threatens broadcasters' licenses over negative coverage of the war in Iran​

President Trump, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and FCC Chair Brendan Carr have assailed the media over coverage of the war in Iran. Carr now threatens broadcast license owners with repercussions.

Once again, Trump acting like a dictator by menacing the media's approach to negative news about him, meaning "Free Speech" be damned.

I did not get the Trump shot. You did.

GFY

 

[Mac1958]

Once again, Trump acting like a dictator by menacing the media's approach to negative news about him, meaning "Free Speech" be damned.

Now we'll never again have to ask, "how could they have let this happen?"

 

[popscottpopscott]

Maybe he can use the Epstein files to detract from the failing war.

Why would he protect all those Democrats revealed in the Epstein files? Nothing credible or verified against him is there.

 

[rightwinger]

Hamas destroyed GAZA.

Israel leveled it

 

[ColonelAngus]

The lie about the shot was astonishing.

We ALL know it was a lie.

Every one of you that got the shot, also got COVID.

YET YOU CANNOT JUST ADMIT IT.

That is a SERIOUS “YOU” problem.

It is true mental illness that YOU need to address.

 

[martybegan]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

From what I have seen, Phase I was eliminate Iran's conventional Military forces and political/religious leadership.

Phase II which has just started appears to be attacking and eliminating the IRGC/Basij. the forces of regime control over the population.

Phase III I would guess would be a call for general revolt of the population against the remnants of the regime.

 

[rightwinger]

From what I have seen, Phase I was eliminate Iran's conventional Military forces and political/religious leadership.

Phase II which has just started appears to be attacking and eliminating the IRGC/Basij. the forces of regime control over the population.

Phase III I would guess would be a call for general revolt of the population against the remnants of the regime.

Phase 1 and 2 are under our control
Phase 3 calls for a miracle

The people are an unorganized mob and have seen what happens when they revolt. Even if they do prevail, you will have competing factions fighting for control for decades.

 

[ColonelAngus]

This is going to damage the Pubs in November.

Lefties, you should push to comtinue the war.

Pretend it is Libya or Syria and just say all the same crap you said then.

 

[martybegan]

Phase 1 and 2 are under our control
Phase 3 calls for a miracle

The people are an unorganized mob and have seen what happens when they revolt. Even if they do prevail, you will have competing factions fighting for control for decades.

We saw phase III already and it was surpressed by the people we are eliminating in Phase II.

 

[leftwinger]

Too late now. Iran won't just walk away without some kind of payback.

Like the last 47 years terrorism blowing up civilian airliners, marines, navy boats...etc.? That sort of payback? What would be different?

They are now severely wounded militarily. They are out of leadership (40 killed in one strike, day 1, nuke sites gone), out of order, low on weaponry, morale, army. The people are cheering for the end of the regime, demanding change.

Mark you down OK for hanging 16 yr old girls for walking around out of uniform? The way it was? Beaten to death for being raped?

 

[rightwinger]

We saw phase III already and it was surpressed by the people we are eliminating in Phase II.

There will still be remnants of a brutal police force.
We thought we could eliminate the Taliban too

 

[Billiejeens]

Israel leveled it

THE responsibility lies with Hamas.

I also don't give a phuck if you can comprehend that.

 

[martybegan]

There will still be remnants of a brutal police force.
We thought we could eliminate the Taliban too

Different country, different situation. Many more Afghans support the Taliban than Iranians support the Mullahs.

Iran is a more urbanized country than Afghanistan.

 

[cnm]

Iran has demanded that the US remove all their military bases from the middle east.

This is the only info I could find. Where did you get yours?

https://www.jpost.com › middle-east › iran-news › article-889994​

"The only way to end this war is recognizing Iran's legitimate rights, payment of reparations, and firm international guarantees against future aggression," Pezeshkian wrote in that instance.​

 

[rightwinger]

Different country, different situation. Many more Afghans support the Taliban than Iranians support the Mullahs.

Iran is a more urbanized country than Afghanistan.

Yes it is
But they still struggle with political factions that will engage in Civil War

Those educated elite in Iran also supported the Shah

 

[cnm]

So, there is a conflict between Iran and the US.


The US is striking at Iran.

Iran is striking at the world....


Yet the world is complaining to Trump... for Iran's actions....


Do you even realize the implications of that?

The whole world realises what an arsehole Chump is?

 

[martybegan]

Yes it is
But they still struggle with political factions that will engage in Civil War

Those educated elite in Iran also supported the Shah

It's amazing how TDS has made you root for Islamist Mullahs.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Geesh, how many pounds of flesh have they exacted from us over the last 47 years? Is your memory that bad? We're goofing around and we're not even in this "thing".