How did we go from "Unconditional Surrender" to Lifting Sanctions/Unfreezing $25B in Assets and Setting up $300B investment pools? Didn't we win?

candycorn said:
I'd love to hear from Trump supporters how its a victory when Trump first wanted "unconditional surrender" then wound up allowing them access to $23B more dollars than Obama did? Then on top of that, lifting sanctions on Iranian oil as well.


Back in the old days, the side that won dictated terms to the side that lost. Seems like we're not doing much dictating.
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The side that won did dictate the terms!
 
Hypatia415 said:
Well according to today's news, Iran has closed the Strait and its military commanders have blamed the USA contending that it has failed to prevent Israel from violating the cease-fire in Lebanon.

Until the USA/Trump can rein in Israel/Netanyahu the problem is not going to go away.
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Well, if we kill all of Iran's proxys, the "problem" goes away.
 
candycorn said:
I'd love to hear from Trump supporters how its a victory when Trump first wanted "unconditional surrender" then wound up allowing them access to $23B more dollars than Obama did? Then on top of that, lifting sanctions on Iranian oil as well.


Back in the old days, the side that won dictated terms to the side that lost. Seems like we're not doing much dictating.
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I see no reason to gloat. Newsflash: Trump is a buffoon. So what? Let's just get the hell out of there.
 
candycorn said:
I'd love to hear from Trump supporters how its a victory when Trump first wanted "unconditional surrender" then wound up allowing them access to $23B more dollars than Obama did? Then on top of that, lifting sanctions on Iranian oil as well.


Back in the old days, the side that won dictated terms to the side that lost. Seems like we're not doing much dictating.
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Didn't you do this exact same thread 24 hours ago? :D
 
candycorn said:
We do know we bombed the same sites in 2025. Say what you want about the results...don't worry about that for the time being. Trump said "obliterated". If you believe they were a threat 10 months later, you would have to conclude that Trump was lying his a$$ off.

If you can't believe Trump--which I just proved you can't....why would you believe someone who works for him?

Leave Israel out of it. Trump's an adult...nobody forced us to drop bombs on anyone.

But lets get back to the June 2025 actions...whatever we hit--whatever the damage actually was, it's safe to say the facilities were degraded and the personnel--some of them key personnel--were either killed or wounded. The estimates are between 400 and 1000 people around the installations were killed.

It should be clear to you that not only could they have produced a missile in 10 months between the June Bombings and this past February's silliness under the best circumstances; they surely couldn't do it with the loss of talent and whatever degraded capacity they were suffering under.

That you continue to put any faith in this administration is not only sad; it's bizarre.
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Leave Israel out of it?

Netanyahu conned Trump into starting the war!
 
Rawley said:
Da Joooos!
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Nope. Netanyahu. Are you really too stupid to tell the different between opposition to Bibi bullshit, and anti-semitism? What the **** is wrong you?

Oh - I know what it is. You're a lying troll. I just forgot. Carry on.
 
dblack said:
Nope. Netanyahu. Are you really too stupid to tell the different between opposition to Bibi bullshit, and anti-semitism? What the **** is wrong you?

Oh - I know what it is. You're a lying troll. I just forgot. Carry on.
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Damn him for protecting his people. Your hatred towards the Jews makes me sick.
 
Rawley said:
Damn him for protecting his people. Your hatred towards the Jews makes me sick.
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Your hatred for little crippled children is what's really vile. What kind of sicko are you? How can you hate children so much? Especially disabled children. What did they ever do to you?
 
dblack said:
Your hatred for little crippled children is what's really vile. What kind of sicko are you? How can you hate children so much? Especially disabled children. What did they ever do to you?
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I feed them to wild dogs. It's very entertaining

Let me guess, Bibi is committing genocide in Gaza. October 7th was Bibi's false flag. Bibi funds Hamas
 
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theHawk said:
And what’s your solution?


We set them back probably decades, they will need to rebuild their military and navy. They won’t be getting a nuke anytime soon, that was the whole point. President Trump never stated this was a regime change war, though of course would welcome it if they were overthrown from within.

The “300 billion” is a fund to be paid for by Islamic countries, if they want.


Lots of people have big talk about Iran, yet never offer any solutions.


The great thing about this deal is it leaves Israel twisting in the wind. They thought they were going to get the U.S. to commit to a regime change war, and they would control the Middle East. Too bad for them. The Israel First crowd is big mad at this deal. The keyboard warriors wanted the U.S. to ground invade Iran, while they risk nothing. President Trump isn’t having that.
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The solution is to not start failed, illegal wars of choice that gave Iran the strategic advantage.

And as correctly noted: the JCPOA was working and should have been left in place.
 
Yes! We won!

We won the right to give away $300 billion to our most mortal enemy whether they want it or not.

It’s called The Art of the Deal.
 
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