How did we go from "Unconditional Surrender" to Lifting Sanctions/Unfreezing $25B in Assets and Setting up $300B investment pools? Didn't we win?

Hypatia415 said:
So why Trump start it?
None of his vaunted claims have been met. Remember this one?
“there will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER."
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War is a very fluid situation, conditions change, sh!t happens...
Hypatia415 said:
Given the success the regime has shown in disrupting the global economy by mining and closing the Strait, it might decide it no longer needs a nuclear option.
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I think Trump already decided that for them...
 

kyzr said:
Iran says Hormuz is closed but ships are still moving thru...
  • The strait began reopening on June 18, after the U.S. lifted its naval blockade and Iran agreed to allow toll‑free passage for 60 days. Commercial vessels have started transiting via coastal routes.
  • Traffic is still far below normal, with only ~20–25 vessels moving and many of them Iranian‑domestic. The central deep‑water channel remains closed due to ~80 naval mines, requiring 40–50 days to clear.
  • On June 20, Iran announced it was closing the strait again, accusing the U.S. and Israel of violating the ceasefire terms related to Lebanon.
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Thats some peace deal your blob negotiated.
 
kyzr said:
War is a very fluid situation, conditions change, sh!t happens...

I think Trump already decided that for them...
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Getting them to agree on the nuclear material is another matter.
 
kyzr said:
Yeah but Trump still has the lane close to Oman that Iran can't see, if ship owners care to use it.

How long will it take for Trump to put the US blockade back on?
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He is busy blaming vandals for the reflecting pool. Trump is done with Iran.
 
The initial “unconditional surrender” talk was clearly just a lot of blah-blah-blah nonsense rambling, as per usual
 
kyzr said:
If Iran closes Hormuz the US will close Hormuz.
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Well according to today's news, Iran has closed the Strait and its military commanders have blamed the USA contending that it has failed to prevent Israel from violating the cease-fire in Lebanon.

Until the USA/Trump can rein in Israel/Netanyahu the problem is not going to go away.
 
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I suspect that the whole ceasefire deal may soon be off the tracks
 
candycorn said:
I'd love to hear from Trump supporters how its a victory when Trump first wanted "unconditional surrender" then wound up allowing them access to $23B more dollars than Obama did? Then on top of that, lifting sanctions on Iranian oil as well.


Back in the old days, the side that won dictated terms to the side that lost. Seems like we're not doing much dictating.
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Nothing changes until Iran complies
 
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