how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

McCain, Cruz


You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

LOL......how ironic coming from kaz
 
John McCain was briefly questioned because John McCain was not born in the United States.

Donald Trump lied about President Obama from 2011 to 2016- claiming he was not born in the United States- even after he had seen Barack Obama's birth certificate and the state of Hawaii confirmed he was born in Hawaii.

If Trump's lies were not based on racism- why was he lying?

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You do realize Obama is just as white as he is black? So, how is any of this racist? Do you even know what racism is?

LOL- I love it when people like to point out that Obama is half white and half black.

Because of course- racists are only bigoted against people who are 100% black

Do you even know what racism is?

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Apparently it is when white people question anyone who is not 100% white. Or, when I oppose illegal immigration. Or, if I think Obama's policies suck. Or, if I don't pronounce Mexico as Mehico. Or, if I send back my burrito.

Actually it is when Donald Trump lies about the place of birth of the first African American President in the United States.

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How is questioning his place of birth racism?
Donald never questioned- he lied.

Actually it is when Donald Trump lies about the place of birth of the first African American President in the United States

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McCain, Cruz


You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya
Stop lying kazzing. We've already established you have no proof Obama ever told his publisher he was born in Kenya.

Don't bother. The Right has a massive media system - much bigger than the Left's - where people are given large incentives to spin a never ending stream of false stories and half truths. And then Trump repeats the fake stories and says he "heard it on the shows."

It's a closed loop, an echo chamber where people actually believe deeply in the fake stories because those stories are distributed at an almost unreal volume. It's a fly trap for low information voters, and it works perfectly with the new republican demographic - uneducated, angry white people who feel left behind and are looking for someone to blame.

You should look into Holocaust Denial, another group housed by the alt right. They claim to be historians who are merely trying to correct a flawed historical record, but when you peel back the onion layer, you discover almost the same collection of neo-Nazi white supremacists who flocked so completely to Trump's birther movement.
 
Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

McCain, Cruz


You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
 
You do realize Obama is just as white as he is black? So, how is any of this racist? Do you even know what racism is?

LOL- I love it when people like to point out that Obama is half white and half black.

Because of course- racists are only bigoted against people who are 100% black

Do you even know what racism is?

images

Apparently it is when white people question anyone who is not 100% white. Or, when I oppose illegal immigration. Or, if I think Obama's policies suck. Or, if I don't pronounce Mexico as Mehico. Or, if I send back my burrito.

Actually it is when Donald Trump lies about the place of birth of the first African American President in the United States.

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How is questioning his place of birth racism?
If you think the birther movement is just about "questioning his place of birth," there's no hope for you.

There have been hundreds of presidential candidates. Name the other one who was pressed into presenting 2 copies of birth records; and even that was not good enough. Name the candidate who's stated place of birth was reject even after state officials verified his birth records. Name the candidate who was offered a multi-million bribe to release his records. Name the candidate whose birth record was scrutinized as much as Obama's. Name the candidate who was sued in court to release his birth records. Name the candidate who was falsely accused of being born in another country. Name the candidate whose birth records were implored to be stolen and released by hackers. Name the candidate who had a book published about them falsely being foreign born. Name the candidate who had a fake ID made up by his detractors to show he was a foreign born student at a U.S. university. Name the candidate who had a fake foreign born birth certificate made up by his detractors to show he wasn't born in the U.S.. Name the candidate who was falsely accused of being adopted to qualify as a foreign born individual, eligible to receive a Hawaiian birth certificate.

And this has been on-going for 8 years now, despite being put to rest years ago. You have to be crazy to think this is just "questioning his place of birth."

Name a President that had a self purported billionaire declare for 5 years that he might not be born in the United States, or that his birth certificate is a forgery.

A billionaire who questioned whether our first African American President was an American- and incidentally a billionaire who was personally sued by the Justice Department for discriminating against African American renters.
 
You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya
Stop lying kazzing. We've already established you have no proof Obama ever told his publisher he was born in Kenya.

Don't bother. The Right has a massive media system - much bigger than the Left's - where people are given large incentives to spin a never ending stream of false stories and half truths. And then Trump repeats them and says he "heard it on the shows." It's a closed loop, an echo chamber where people begin to believe deeply in the fake stories because those stories are distributed at an almost unreal volume.

You should look into Holocaust Denial, another group housed by the alt right. They claim to be historians who are merely trying to correct a flawed historical record, but when you peel back the onion layer, you discover almost the same collection of new-Nazi white supremacists who flocked so completely to Trump's birther movement.

The right media is "much bigger than the Left's?"

:cuckoo:
 
how did birth certificate qualification turn into racism?

It's always been racism; conservative racists hostile to an African American president contrived the lie that the president wasn't born in the U.S. in a failed attempt to render him "unqualified."

Even if true, and it isn't, how does that in any way imply that someone thinks blacks are inferior beings or not worthy of the same consideration as whites?

You answered your own question.
Because Obama in no way received the same consideration as every other president.
We have never asked for proof or questioned the validity of any other president in history.
If you can't see that then you're blind.
Absolutely wrong ... dangerously wrong.

We have questioned EVERY presidential candidate. Obama is the first one who refused to provide the information in a timely manner, leading to speculation that he was hiding something.

Not a one.

President Obama was the first candidate who ever showed his birth certificate to voters.

And when he ran against Mitt Romney- not a single Birther demanded Mitt Romney's birth certificate.

I wonder why

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how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?





If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.
What about his birth certificate is "policy"? This whole controversy was about de-legitimizing Barack Obama. And that certainly has the taint of racism as no other President was charged as he was.



Let it go.

WE DON'T CARE!.

You mean after lying throughout this thread about birth certificates- you say 'we don't care'?

Of course Trumpsters don't care that Trump lied about our first African American President.
 
LOL- I love it when people like to point out that Obama is half white and half black.

Because of course- racists are only bigoted against people who are 100% black

Do you even know what racism is?

images

Apparently it is when white people question anyone who is not 100% white. Or, when I oppose illegal immigration. Or, if I think Obama's policies suck. Or, if I don't pronounce Mexico as Mehico. Or, if I send back my burrito.

Actually it is when Donald Trump lies about the place of birth of the first African American President in the United States.

images

How is questioning his place of birth racism?
If you think the birther movement is just about "questioning his place of birth," there's no hope for you.

There have been hundreds of presidential candidates. Name the other one who was pressed into presenting 2 copies of birth records; and even that was not good enough. Name the candidate who's stated place of birth was reject even after state officials verified his birth records. Name the candidate who was offered a multi-million bribe to release his records. Name the candidate whose birth record was scrutinized as much as Obama's. Name the candidate who was sued in court to release his birth records. Name the candidate who was falsely accused of being born in another country. Name the candidate whose birth records were implored to be stolen and released by hackers. Name the candidate who had a book published about them falsely being foreign born. Name the candidate who had a fake ID made up by his detractors to show he was a foreign born student at a U.S. university. Name the candidate who had a fake foreign born birth certificate made up by his detractors to show he wasn't born in the U.S.. Name the candidate who was falsely accused of being adopted to qualify as a foreign born individual, eligible to receive a Hawaiian birth certificate.

And this has been on-going for 8 years now, despite being put to rest years ago. You have to be crazy to think this is just "questioning his place of birth."

Waah -- waah --- waah

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McCain, Cruz


You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit
 
Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

McCain, Cruz


You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?
n.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Stop kazzing.

Barack Obama never told anyone he was born in Kenya. You know this- you are just kazzing again.

Why do Birther kaz?
Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?
This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I
 
You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

:badgrin: Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.
 
You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

Yeah, that's what the founding fathers meant. If you're born of US military parents on a US military base you can't be trusted. You're a whack job
 
Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

:badgrin: Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.

Rustic's a lunatic, that defies party. And shit for brains, your standard of EVERY liberal and EVERY conservative is just as butt stupid as you are
 
You sure stepped in that one. There has been no major birther movements against either one of those from the left. Trump did go after the Hispanic guy though but why should that shock anyone now?

Anyway, bad answer on your part but you probably know that.

Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

Prove it.

The GOP thought he was. The Democrats did too.

And frankly I do- an American born to American parents while serving the United States overseas- what kind of message would that be telling our soldiers and sailors if we asked them to serve overseas but their children born overseas could never be President.

Why would you want to hurt the children of American servicemen and women?
 
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Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

:badgrin: Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.

Rustic's a lunatic, that defies party. And shit for brains, your standard of EVERY liberal and EVERY conservative is just as butt stupid as you are

But nobody lies like kaz.

Thats why there is a whole term for terminal stupid lying- called kazzing.
 
Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

:badgrin: Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.

Rustic's a lunatic, that defies party. And shit for brains, your standard of EVERY liberal and EVERY conservative is just as butt stupid as you are


I would consider Rustic (and you) to be typical of what represents an all to large segment of the Republican leaning populace.
 
Bull crap, you're full of it

Nope, I always thought McCain and Cruz met citizenship requirements. Where is that big ol' birther movement on the left?

The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

:badgrin: Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.
Not only is McCain a spineless progressive, he's not a natural born citizen… He's just a nobody. He's the ultimate example of why we should have single term limits for all federal offices held.
 
The democrats started the McCain birther thing before the Obama birther thing was a thing. It was stupid. He was born on a US military base, obviously he was eligible to be President. Though while Obama was born in Hawaii, he'd have been eligible to be President even if he was born in Kenya. His mother was American, he was native born American.

He was one stupid idiot though for telling his publisher he was born in Kenya

Got a source? I'd like to hear about this huge McCain birther movement that Democrats ran. Provide a source to that, something that rivals Trump's actions. Trump is a double birther, btw.

Clinton, Obama Agree: McCain’s a “Natural Born Citizen”
McCain is not a natural born citizen. dip shit

:badgrin: Tell Kaz what a flaming liberal you are.

Rustic's a lunatic, that defies party. And shit for brains, your standard of EVERY liberal and EVERY conservative is just as butt stupid as you are


I would consider Rustic (and you) to be typical of what represents an all to large segment of the Republican leaning populace.
It's an insult to call me a Republican, libertarian is a much better stand.
 
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