How China won trade war and got American's to pay.

[Missourian]

Yes, those you

You have no earthly idea what you're talking about, do you...

Go back to your socialist handlers... they taught you the wrong talking point.

If you raise tariffs OR taxes, the result is the same...an increase in end-user (or end consumer) cost.

If widget USA cost the same on the shelf as widget CCCP...the advantage of offshoring production is not only negated...it becomes a net negative, as the logistical chain is substantially longer.

In the short term, there will be some sticker shock...but in the long term, increased manufacturing with raise the standard of living for millions of Americans, especially in cities.

 

[pknopp]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

You are arguing also that we need to allow corporations to poison our water if you want jobs back. No we do not.

Amazon should be hammered with taxes over the things they ship here from China.

and what about the poisoning of the air and seas from all those big shipping boats that cover the oceans??

what happens when of sinks and dump thousand of containers into the ocean??

how much fossil fuels do they burn for a single trip??

esasier to have manufacturing here so we can keep track and make sure they done poison the environment,,

Yes but we do NOT have to allow the poisoning of our environment to do that. Any company importing from China that is not meeting U.S. regs in China should be hit with huge taxes to mitigate the damages.

Why not huge tariffs to offset the wage disparities?

Tariffs are paid by those who are hit with the wage cuts.......but you know that.

tariffs are paid by the end consumer,, but you knew that,,

Yes, those you are wanting to work for $4.00 an hour.

youre the one that wants slaves in china to work for far less,,
its none of my business what a person makes,,,

And yet you are proposing they work for less. It's none of your business so butt out.

and you have yet to comment on you being OK that the people in china are paid far less and even not being paid at all???

They need to form unions. I can do nothing about China. No matter how much I dislike what another country does there is NOTHING I can do. We have painfully learned that. Though not all have.

 

[pknopp]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

You are arguing also that we need to allow corporations to poison our water if you want jobs back. No we do not.

Amazon should be hammered with taxes over the things they ship here from China.

and what about the poisoning of the air and seas from all those big shipping boats that cover the oceans??

what happens when of sinks and dump thousand of containers into the ocean??

how much fossil fuels do they burn for a single trip??

esasier to have manufacturing here so we can keep track and make sure they done poison the environment,,

Yes but we do NOT have to allow the poisoning of our environment to do that. Any company importing from China that is not meeting U.S. regs in China should be hit with huge taxes to mitigate the damages.

Why not huge tariffs to offset the wage disparities?

Tariffs are paid by those who are hit with the wage cuts.......but you know that.

tariffs are paid by the end consumer,, but you knew that,,

Yes, those you are wanting to work for $4.00 an hour.

youre the one that wants slaves in china to work for far less,,
its none of my business what a person makes,,,

And yet you are proposing they work for less. It's none of your business so butt out.

and what about the pollution created by the container ships polluting the oceans???

you OK with that too??

When the taxes are high enough that the businesses bring the jobs back there is no need for the ships.

 

[progressive hunter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

You are arguing also that we need to allow corporations to poison our water if you want jobs back. No we do not.

Amazon should be hammered with taxes over the things they ship here from China.

and what about the poisoning of the air and seas from all those big shipping boats that cover the oceans??

what happens when of sinks and dump thousand of containers into the ocean??

how much fossil fuels do they burn for a single trip??

esasier to have manufacturing here so we can keep track and make sure they done poison the environment,,

Yes but we do NOT have to allow the poisoning of our environment to do that. Any company importing from China that is not meeting U.S. regs in China should be hit with huge taxes to mitigate the damages.

Why not huge tariffs to offset the wage disparities?

Tariffs are paid by those who are hit with the wage cuts.......but you know that.

tariffs are paid by the end consumer,, but you knew that,,

Yes, those you are wanting to work for $4.00 an hour.

youre the one that wants slaves in china to work for far less,,
its none of my business what a person makes,,,

And yet you are proposing they work for less. It's none of your business so butt out.

and you have yet to comment on you being OK that the people in china are paid far less and even not being paid at all???

They need to form unions. I can do nothing about China. No matter how much I dislike what another country does there is NOTHING I can do. We have painfully learned that. Though not all have.

of course theres something you can do,, you can push for jobs to come back here so our people dont starve,,

 

[progressive hunter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

You are arguing also that we need to allow corporations to poison our water if you want jobs back. No we do not.

Amazon should be hammered with taxes over the things they ship here from China.

and what about the poisoning of the air and seas from all those big shipping boats that cover the oceans??

what happens when of sinks and dump thousand of containers into the ocean??

how much fossil fuels do they burn for a single trip??

esasier to have manufacturing here so we can keep track and make sure they done poison the environment,,

Yes but we do NOT have to allow the poisoning of our environment to do that. Any company importing from China that is not meeting U.S. regs in China should be hit with huge taxes to mitigate the damages.

Why not huge tariffs to offset the wage disparities?

Tariffs are paid by those who are hit with the wage cuts.......but you know that.

tariffs are paid by the end consumer,, but you knew that,,

Yes, those you are wanting to work for $4.00 an hour.

youre the one that wants slaves in china to work for far less,,
its none of my business what a person makes,,,

And yet you are proposing they work for less. It's none of your business so butt out.

and what about the pollution created by the container ships polluting the oceans???

you OK with that too??

When the taxes are high enough that the businesses bring the jobs back there is no need for the ships.

now thats stupid,,

 

[22lcidw]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

Biden is what you complain about. Bomb our cities China..

 

[Flash]

These Useful Idiots (with a little help from fraudulent ballots) put China's "big guy" in the White House.

Just like China wanted all along. That Trump was a pain in the ass for them insisting on fair trade deals and no stealing technology.

Now things can return to how it was during the Worthless Negro's administration. Even better seeing as how they own China Joe lock, stock and barrel.

I wonder if China Joe will be sending his bag boy Hunter back to China get get more payoff?

After all he doesn't own as big a mansion on Martha's Vineyard as the Worthless Negro, does he?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

 

[progressive hunter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

Biden is what you complain about. Bomb our cities China..

I am not hear to baby sit you and your toddler hissy fits....


Bomb our cities China!! Shut yo goofy ass up

 

[Indeependent]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

Nixon gave the US to China.
Today's technology accelerated the pace.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

 

[Indeependent]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

narcissist charlatan
So you liked Nixon?
So you liked Reagan?
So you liked Sr Bush?
So you liked GW?

 

[progressive hunter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

so then why are you complaining about something you caused???

and for your info I have never in 30 yrs of voting voted for either of the two cause I know they are the cause of all the problems we face including the ones you mention,,

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

narcissist charlatan
So you liked Nixon?
So you liked Reagan?

I don't like any politician......nor is it a requirement for me to like them....

Why do you ask?? Do you have a desire to like politicians??

When their policies suck, does liking them make you feel better about it?

 

[Indeependent]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

narcissist charlatan
So you liked Nixon?
So you liked Reagan?

I don't like any politician......nor is it a requirement for me to like them....

Why do you ask?? Do you have a desire to like politicians??

When their policies suck, does liking them make you feel better about it?

Trump creates jobs for Americans and you hate him.
The rest destroyed people's lives and you don't seem to hate them.
You must be a bottom feeder.

 

[pknopp]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

narcissist charlatan
So you liked Nixon?
So you liked Reagan?

I don't like any politician......nor is it a requirement for me to like them....

Why do you ask?? Do you have a desire to like politicians??

When their policies suck, does liking them make you feel better about it?

Trump creates jobs for Americans and you hate him.
The rest destroyed people's lives and you don't seem to hate them.
You must be a bottom feeder.

From the link:

The deficit did fall year-on-year in 2019, as U.S. companies switched to imports from countries like Vietnam

How is that creating jobs for American's?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

so then why are you complaining about something you caused???

and for your info I have never in 30 yrs of voting voted for either of the two cause I know they are the cause of all the problems we face including the ones you mention,,

Still waiting for you to tell me how I caused corporate bail outs??

Still waiting for you to tell me how I created a wealth gap so huge that even long time so-called Wall Street gurus warns that this late stage capitalism is unsustainable...

Hedge-fund billionaire Ray Dalio says capitalism needs urgent reform

Capitalism is no longer working for most Americans, according to one hedge-fund billionaire.

www.marketwatch.com

But let me guess....I bet you think this chart is a good trend huh?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

narcissist charlatan
So you liked Nixon?
So you liked Reagan?

I don't like any politician......nor is it a requirement for me to like them....

Why do you ask?? Do you have a desire to like politicians??

When their policies suck, does liking them make you feel better about it?

Trump creates jobs for Americans and you hate him.
The rest destroyed people's lives and you don't seem to hate them.
You must be a bottom feeder.

Again...cool story bro....

 

[BluesLegend]

The one thing I will disagree with is that China was able to get this done. Trump did it to us.

There is also another note in the article about what he was totally wrong about. He said he was going to bring the jobs back to the U.S. when in fact at best the jobs went to other Asian countries.

It's also interesting to note that it was in good part, Boeing's corrupt business practices that that helped undermine things but very little has been reported on that.

How China won Trump's trade war and got Americans to foot the bill

the only way jobs will come back here is when taxs and regs get reduced enough to make it profitable to do so,,

trump might have achieved that if dems and repubes cared about it,, but alas they done because they make more money working for china,,

Amazon paid squat in taxes. How much of their crap comes from China?

whats that got to do with manufacturing???

How did corporations survive in the "good ole days" when taxes were between 70 to 90%??

And exactly what "regulations" need to be cut for all of this "prosperity" among American workers to take place??

You folks never specify what regulations need to be cut -- you just simply say "we need to cut regulations" -- which is usually some shit trickle down conservatives say rhetorically -- as if cutting regulations for the sake of cutting regulations is a solution....

there would be specific regs for specific industries,, but its mostly about taxs

as for your way back machine,,, they struggled and used every loop hole they could and almost NOBODY paid the highest rate

Businesses didn't leave over taxes. They left because workers in China were working for next to nothing.

its a combination of all of them,,
the question is what do you care about??
are you OK with lower prices when its because of slave labor in a foreign country where you cant see the suffering??

or are you willing to pay more to make sure your family and friends can work and feed their families??

I'm absolutely fine with paying higher prices. We pay anyway. Well, we do in theory but not in reality. Put people out of work. Taxpayers pick up the slack. Drive down wages. Taxpayers pick up the slack. In theory. We don't actually pay our debts.

Paying higher prices means we don't continue to add trillions to our debt.

paying higher prices has nothing to do with the debt increase,,

I explained how it does.

it doesnt when congress keeps spending more than they take in,,

In a society we are not going to allow people to starve.

anyone that starves in this country or the world is due to their own laziness,, cause food literally grows out of the ground with little effort,,,

if you did care you would feed them yourself or teach them how to provide for themselves not coddle them in their poverty,,,

to send money to washington for that purpose is counter productive because they always take a big cut for themselves that is completely wasted,,,

If only we could teach huge corporations to fend for themselves instead of relying on big government subsidies.....

But yea, its always more fun to punch down at the powerless than punch up at the powerful......its the conservative mantra...

Then they wonder why we laugh at them when they whine about how "victimize" they are

subsidies are dems and repubes fault not mine,,, are you a dem or repube?? cause if you are you are complaining about problems you created,,

I'm all for them living and dyeing by their own means cause thats how I've done it for 45 yrs,,

Lol @ I created corporate subsidies

As for you living and dying by your own means -- cool.......you don't though....no matter how much you try to pretend you are some mountain man living off the grid, you don't......

You depend on the same tax payer funded shit the rest of us does...so leave that Ayn Rand cosplay bullshit for those who believe in them same fairy tales

are you a dem or repube?? if so you are the creator of the subsidies,,

I pay those taxs,, where as 50% of the population doesnt pay any and benefits from what I provided,,

and my business has never had a subsidy or bailout from anyone,,

I pay taxes too......of those taxes I pay -- I have more of a problem with those taxes going to fund the luxuries of the privileged and few than I do towards my taxes going towards the necessities of the many, especially those who are the least powerful among us -- blame that set of morals on my parents...

You on the other hand, you probably worship wealth like royalty, for you, when it comes to many policies, cruelty is the point ...the glee of seeing those you feel you are better than, seeing them suffer is satisfying for you -- that probably makes you giddy....

Funny how you cowards never campaign on that type of sociopathy tho....Instead folks like you offer cultural scapegoats to people to cast their grievances upon (gay cakes, immigrants, words with ism in it that you don't know the meaning of) -- just to avoid the fact you only offer them policies that make their situation worse......

are you a dem or repube??

if so the problem youre complaining about is one of your own making,,,

I am a progressive -- which makes me align more with Dems than I ever would a Republican......maybe when Republicans have policies that don't involve sucking off a narcissist charlatan and playing footsies with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists for power -- then we can talk......

But apparently, you don't mind sucking him off as a core policy...

narcissist charlatan
So you liked Nixon?
So you liked Reagan?

I don't like any politician......nor is it a requirement for me to like them....

Why do you ask?? Do you have a desire to like politicians??

When their policies suck, does liking them make you feel better about it?

Trump creates jobs for Americans and you hate him.
The rest destroyed people's lives and you don't seem to hate them.
You must be a bottom feeder.

Some of these leftist twits are clearly on the public dole or don't work a real job.