"How Are We Going to Afford This?" U.S. Companies Face Tariff Reality - China or Higher Costs and Poor Quality when "Made in America"

[Hector12]

So you support exploiting slave like labor in 3rd world countries like China.

Chinese goods are produced by employees, not slaves.

I think it is hilarious that a stark raving Communist country produces better consumer goods at lower prices than the American free enterprise system. I buy Chinese goods at every opportunity. If you have children try to get them to learn Mandarin. China is where the future is.

 

[DonGlock26]

Americans stopped making cheap products long ago.This when it became even cheaper to make the products overseas. People can blame policy all they want, but Americans demand and love "cheap."

This is about policy. The policies of tariffs, but of much more. Policies of the past may have made it easier for small businesses and others to have products assembled and made overseas, and then shipped back to America for sales. I'm sure somewhere it all the policy stuff are tax incentives and tax breaks, and other GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES to keep PRIVATE BUSINESSES going on the cheap with bigger, better profits.

My Headline: Trump Tariffs Expose Reality of Higher Costs, Poor Quality of "Made in America" - Small Businesses know that equals products being more expensive with inferior quality.

"How Are We Going to Afford This?" U.S. Companies Face Tariff Reality - Higher Costs and Poor Quality when "Made in America"

Business owners told The Times that President Trump’s tariffs could lead to higher costs and expressed frustration at the sudden uncertainty about policy.

The New York Times has heard from nearly 100 companies that import from China about how the president’s tariffs were affecting them. They are a cross-section of striving enterprises stitched into the global economy: companies that make greeting cards, board games, outdoor footwear, hangers, digital picture frames, coffee equipment, toys, stained-glass windows and custom electronics.

Several themes emerged. American businesses, not Chinese suppliers, were shouldering the cost of tariffs. Many companies said they would have to raise prices to offset the expense if they had not already. Some spoke of a feeling of business paralysis: They were afraid to make plans amid the unpredictable stream of new tariffs, fearing the risk of moving production out of China since no country seemed immune.

Turning to domestic alternatives was usually not viable because they were more expensive, the quality was inferior and there were fewer options. Finally, completely reinventing their supply chain would be a huge undertaking for the companies, requiring time and expense they cannot easily spare.

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From her home in Phoenix, Erica Campbell is waiting for a cargo vessel from China to deliver a shipment of thousands of Jesus rattle dolls, tin Easter eggs, religious-themed baby swaddle blankets and 15,000 packages of Jesus Heals bandages.

Ms. Campbell, 36, the owner of Be a Heart, a Catholic goods business, paid the Chinese factories that manufacture the items months ago. The boxes were loaded in a container before President Trump imposed a new 10 percent tariff on all Chinese imports on Feb. 1. She said she probably avoided paying an additional duty as a result, but she was worried there would be more U.S. tariffs to come.

“I can’t figure out what is going to happen,” Ms. Campbell said. “I am on high alert.”

Just say no to globalism and the WEF.

 

[Hector12]

Just say no to globalism and the WEF.

Tariffs are for countries that cannot compete on the international market. What happened to American ingenuity?

 

[DonGlock26]

Tariffs are for countries that cannot compete on the international market. What happened to American ingenuity?

It's not just about tariffs. Tax incentives can help as well.

But, since you brought up tariffs, can the US compete fairly against nations who use tariffs against us?

Bringing US jobs back to the US is American ingenuity.

Are you an American?

 

[Hector12]

It's not just about tariffs. Tax incentives can help as well.

But, since you brought up tariffs, can the US compete fairly against nations who use tariffs against us?

Bringing US jobs back to the US is American ingenuity.

Are you an American?

I am an American who loves China. I look forward to a world in which China has achieved world hegemony, and an America dominated by a high IQ cognitive elite composed largely of East Asians and Jews.

 

[DonGlock26]

I am an American who loves China. I look forward to a world in which China has achieved world hegemony, and an America dominated by a high IQ cognitive elite composed largely of East Asians and Jews.

Do you love China more than America?


Why do you love China and want them to control the world?


Can the US compete fairly against nations who use tariffs against us?

 

[petro]

Because of tariffs, my Toyota Tundra is 100% built in America by American workers at their Texas plant while the engine is produced in their Indiana plant. More American than the big three.
Toyota has 10 plants in the US, that also build the Corolla, Tacoma and Camry.
Toyota's strategy is to assemble vehicles where they are sold. This supports regional suppliers and economies, and fosters local communities.

The truck tariffs have been there since the 1960's. Long before Trump. The OP is a moron.



The United States has a 25% tariff on imported pickup trucks from countries other than Canada and Mexico. This tariff is known as the "chicken tax".

How did the tariff originate?

• In 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson imposed the 25% tariff on imported cargo vehicles
• The tariff was in retaliation for European tariffs on U.S. chicken imports
• The period from 1961 to 1964 was known as the "Chicken War

 

[Dante]

Just say no to globalism and the WEF.

Let's go back?

okay

 

[22lcidw]

Column | Is America still a nation of small businesses?

Small businesses are a pillar of the American narrative, but are they still a pillar of the American economy? We run the numbers.

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America is proud of being a nation built on the back of small business. Or at least that’s the narrative we tell ourselves, writes reader Peter McMahon from the Hill Country outpost of Boerne, Texas.
But, he writes, “does that story still exist or has ‘corporate America’ changed the story to a myth?”

Stellar question, Peter! And you may be on to something.

Progs will not ever give up their love of lower priced foreign products made by slaves. And frankly it hides the high tax environment we live in. And Progs do not want lower taxes.

 

[whitehall]

"Made in America" equals poor quality? Is this Russian propaganda?

 

[Dante]

"Made in America" equals poor quality? Is this Russian propaganda?

For those cheap products? Try and keep up. Cross Bill's Bridge into the 21st Century: Even Trump had all of his MAGA crap made in China - and you early follower - you people-of-the-cult were buying and wearing it.

That is the message from Americans who start businesses.


The New York Times has heard from nearly 100 companies that import from China about how the president’s tariffs were affecting them. They are a cross-section of striving enterprises stitched into the global economy: companies that make greeting cards, board games, outdoor footwear, hangers, digital picture frames, coffee equipment, toys, stained-glass windows and custom electronics.

Several themes emerged. American businesses, not Chinese suppliers, were shouldering the cost of tariffs. Many companies said they would have to raise prices to offset the expense if they had not already. Some spoke of a feeling of business paralysis: They were afraid to make plans amid the unpredictable stream of new tariffs, fearing the risk of moving production out of China since no country seemed immune.

Turning to domestic alternatives was usually not viable because they were more expensive, the quality was inferior and there were fewer options. Finally, completely reinventing their supply chain would be a huge undertaking for the companies, requiring time and expense they cannot easily spare.

from:
By Daisuke WakabayashiKeith BradsherAlexandra StevensonMeaghan Tobin and Ana Swanson

We are reporters at The Times based in Asia and the United States who cover the Chinese economy and its trade with the rest of the world.

Published Jan. 30, 2025Updated Feb. 2, 2025

Tell Us How Tariffs on Goods From China Will Affect Your Business​

The New York Times wants to talk to business owners about President Trump’s imposition of additional tariffs on imports from China.

China is the world’s factory floor. From high-end digital devices to inexpensive tchotchkes, many of the products that are bought and sold in the United States are made in China.​

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President Trump has imposed additional tariffs on Chinese-made goods imported to the United States. Trade tensions between the world’s two largest economies are already high.​

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We are a team of reporters who write about business and economic issues for The New York Times with a special focus on China and how geopolitical issues affect companies, businesses and people. We have written about how Chinese electric vehicles are flooding into Thailand and how China may engage in “supply chain warfare” to counteract protectionist U.S. policies.​

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To better understand the global impact of new tariffs on China, we would like to hear from business owners, entrepreneurs, managers and employees. How could the import taxes affect your company or job — positive or negative? We would also like to hear what it takes to move production to the United States or other countries.​

 

[petro]

Hilarious how there is absolutely zero criticism from progtards about Bidens tariffs that went into effect back in September...

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/china-tariffs-biden-trump/index.html

WashingtonCNN —
The Biden administration said Friday that it has finalized tariff hikes on certain Chinese-made products that the president first announced in May.

The tariff rate will go up to 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% on solar cells and to 25% on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks and ship-to-shore cranes beginning September 27, according to the US Trade Representative’s Office.

Tariff hikes on other products, including semiconductor chips, are set to take effect over the next two years.

Talk about a bunch of blind partisan rubes...lol.

 

[Hector12]

Do you love China more than America?


Why do you love China and want them to control the world?


Can the US compete fairly against nations who use tariffs against us?

I love the Chinese people in China and in the United States. I do not want China to control the world, only to dominate it.

How do Chinese tariffs on American goods compare with American tariffs on Chinse goods? That is an honest question. I don't know.

 

[DonGlock26]

I love the Chinese people in China and in the United States. I do not want China to control the world, only to dominate it.

How do Chinese tariffs on American goods compare with American tariffs on Chinse goods? That is an honest question. I don't know.

Do you love Communism?

 

[Jarlaxle]

As do most of the tech bosses and business tycoons who backed Trump and PROJECT 2025

But the hoi polloi must Stand with Trump

What is Project 2025? Something Trump kept insisting he didn't know about and didn't believe in.​

Project 2025 is a federal policy agenda and blueprint for a radical restructuring of the executive branch authored and published by former Trump administration officials in partnership with The Heritage Foundation, a longstanding conservative think tank that opposes abortion and reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, immigrants’ rights, and racial equity. Project 2025’s largest publication, “Mandate For Leadership,” is a 900-page manual for reorganizing the entire federal government agency by agency to serve a conservative agenda.

such patriotism .. leader over the people

"Project 2025" is the latest name for a Heritage Foundation plan that has been around, in various forms and under various names, since at least the late 1980s.

Post here highlight how much MAGA HATES AMERICA'S ENTREPRENEURS when the LEADER of the Cult-of-Personality is is made to look bad


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At a minimum, business owners are facing a 10 percent cost increase in the goods that they bring in from China — whether components for items assembled in the United States or finished products made in Chinese facilities. They may receive a bill when the goods arrive at the port, or the additional expense may be bundled into shipment costs. Either way, the entrepreneurs said, in many cases it would be money out of their pockets.

Chinese quality is wildly variable-and often wretched. The same parts can be half perfect, and half unusable. I've seen porous castings, voids, poor machining, and parts where one in five was dead out of the box. One unremarkable thing for smaller parts is having the top half of a large box work, and the bottom half poorly built, broken, or incomplete.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump still says tariffs are paid by "the country".

Idiot.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Dante It is NOT lower quality when made in America compared to China. We have to actually add to the increased warranty cost when we outsource. It is also very difficult to get them to keep to the specifications we provide as well. They just change to lower quality parts and we have to deal with the fallout.

And of course, there is the fact that it's quite common for Chinese factories to crank out knockoffs of your design and sell them cheap.

Chinese goods are produced by employees, not slaves.

I think it is hilarious that a stark raving Communist country produces better consumer goods at lower prices than the American free enterprise system. I buy Chinese goods at every opportunity. If you have children try to get them to learn Mandarin. China is where the future is.

You need 90 days observation.

I am an American who loves China. I look forward to a world in which China has achieved world hegemony, and an America dominated by a high IQ cognitive elite composed largely of East Asians and Jews.

You're either a paid shill or a bot.

 

[theHawk]

Chinese goods are produced by employees, not slaves.

I think it is hilarious that a stark raving Communist country produces better consumer goods at lower prices than the American free enterprise system. I buy Chinese goods at every opportunity. If you have children try to get them to learn Mandarin. China is where the future is.

Yea, “employees” that have no freedom and get paid pennies to what an American employee would make.

Not to mention their factories spew greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, with no protest from you lefties.

 

[Dante]

"Project 2025" is the latest name for a Heritage Foundation plan that has been around, in various forms and under various names, since at least the late 1980s.

not exactly, but okay.

Chinese quality is wildly variable-and often wretched. The same parts can be half perfect, and half unusable. I've seen porous castings, voids, poor machining, and parts where one in five was dead out of the box. One unremarkable thing for smaller parts is having the top half of a large box work, and the bottom half poorly built, broken, or incomplete.

China has been doing things that America walked away from for decades. Going back is an option few really want to happen.

 

[Jarlaxle]

China has been doing things that America walked away from for decades. Going back is an option few really want to happen.

You're making shit up again.