How about some examples of this “socialism” stuff y’all are afraid of?

[Ambivalent1]

the manufacturer was a private company paid by the government. that isn't socialist at all. My company makes product for the government and we get paid for it. hmmmm not clear your point asswipe.

The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives. Those programs give their citizens a tremendous amount of freedom to plan and organize our lives.

I have lived my life with the full knowledge and understanding that my basic medical care is a given. Whether I am working full time, unemployed or retired, I never in my life have had to worry about having enough money to take care of my medical needs. I don't have to save up for treatments or worry about co-pays, these things are a given. That, in and of itself, is freedom you don't have. I don't have to worry about what happens to my health care coverage if I change jobs, or if I'm unemployed for any length of time. Health care is my right.

Imagine if you had that freedom.

No need to "imagine" anything. I earn my way, pay my premiums, co-pays and coinsurance. Imagine my freedom of not needing a f*cking thing from you.

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

Sometimes one should should actually stop and think before typing.

 

[danielpalos]

What current programs in the USA constitute socialism?

Paying the debts, and providing for the common defense and general welfare of the United States;

is socialism.

Income transfers via taxation.

 

[hazlnut]

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Answer the question.

U.S. History -- have you taken it?

 

[jc456]

The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives. Those programs give their citizens a tremendous amount of freedom to plan and organize our lives.

I have lived my life with the full knowledge and understanding that my basic medical care is a given. Whether I am working full time, unemployed or retired, I never in my life have had to worry about having enough money to take care of my medical needs. I don't have to save up for treatments or worry about co-pays, these things are a given. That, in and of itself, is freedom you don't have. I don't have to worry about what happens to my health care coverage if I change jobs, or if I'm unemployed for any length of time. Health care is my right.

Imagine if you had that freedom.

No need to "imagine" anything. I earn my way, pay my premiums, co-pays and coinsurance. Imagine my freedom of not needing a f*cking thing from you.

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

 

[rightwinger]

What current programs in the USA constitute socialism?

All of them.

Nuff said

 

[rightwinger]

No need to "imagine" anything. I earn my way, pay my premiums, co-pays and coinsurance. Imagine my freedom of not needing a f*cking thing from you.

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Damn are you naive

 

[hazlnut]

No need to "imagine" anything. I earn my way, pay my premiums, co-pays and coinsurance. Imagine my freedom of not needing a f*cking thing from you.

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Doctors and hospitals do set pricing.

They aren't advertised because the health care industry knows that information asymmetry gives a significant advantage to a seller in a free market.

 

[Dale Smith]

Progs demonstrate the harmful effects of socialism. They use PC and rich ideas of reality to create chaos and mind-control. They pick and choose who the Constitution applies to and when. They attack their opponents politically, economically, personally, and even have key figures in the justice dept. bent over for the cause. Same with the IRS and then some.

Next thing you know every day is opposite day. You know, like Pelosi or Abrams owned the night during the State of Address

They also accuse a president of having a fake birth certificate.

The one that was put on the dot gov website was a fraudulent document.....that much we do know.

 

[Dale Smith]

u

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Just a few points;

This thread was intended to be about the USA. Bringing up Venezuela, Cuba or any other failed socialist state is just a red herring because we have little in common with them.

Secondly, no one can deny that this is a capitalist country. Corporations are making a ton of money and free enterprise is thriving and the means of production are for the most part private .

You boys get confused about this socialism thing because it is not a laissez fair system, there are regulations and controls in place in order to do things like protect consumers and workers, protect the environment and prevent reckless behavior by the banks. Don't like regulations ? Remember the crash of 2008? Remember child labor and sweat shops? Remember polluted water ways like the Hudson River?

Other things that you boys bleat about as Socialism are the social programs and anything that smacks of wealth redistribution. But social safety nets actually are essential Capitalism because, in a free market, demands for labor expand and contract so- there are times when there is excess labor- these programs keep those sidelined works alive and reasonably healthy for when they are need again .

As far as wealth redistribution goes, keep in mind that we have had a graduated income tax for a long time. It seems that you guys only started crying socialism around the time that Obama was elected. To much wealth and income inequality makes for an oligarchy and destroys democracy.

So if you want to preserve our way of life-our nation you have to rein in the greed

The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism.

I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.
.

The Right sees right past the bullshit. Begging Lefties bust their asses trying desperately to repackage socialism....Their current spin is silly...they’re calling it “elements of socialism”.

See post 114 and shut up

Hahaha....See, that’s what you do...you cleverly sell the “elements of socialism” that American society has finally accepted and then you follow that up with “give me more of my rich neighbors shit” disguised in other clever wording such as “wealth redistribution”.....Your diligent efforts to expand the number of “elements of socialism” is what is played the fuck out.
This all reminds me of the LGBTQ bullshit....you pitch Americans on how awesome gays are and as soon as they start to accept the twisted shit you hit them with “oh and by the way, I can choose my gender and my friend Bubba with a penis and a dress deserves the right to shit next to your 9 year old daughter”.

Thank you for that bizarre unhinged rant Dude. It seem that I've gotten to you. I'm not trying to see anyone anything. I'm just stating facts which you seem to be unable to deal with or to comment intelligently about. Then you have to throw in a red herring about the transgender issue as a smokescreen to further deflect from the topic. You are not much of a challenge to deal with

I disagree......he ripped you a new one.

 

[jc456]

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Doctors and hospitals do set pricing.

They aren't advertised because the health care industry knows that information asymmetry gives a significant advantage to a seller in a free market.

I know they aren't advertised. We would get better prices if it was advertised. don't you think? why are you for the insurance companies?

 

[Ambivalent1]

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Doctors and hospitals do set pricing.

They aren't advertised because the health care industry knows that information asymmetry gives a significant advantage to a seller in a free market.

LOL, they and the insurance companies negotiate pricing. Get an education. Medicare DICTATES pricing

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

u

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Just a few points;

This thread was intended to be about the USA. Bringing up Venezuela, Cuba or any other failed socialist state is just a red herring because we have little in common with them.

Secondly, no one can deny that this is a capitalist country. Corporations are making a ton of money and free enterprise is thriving and the means of production are for the most part private .

You boys get confused about this socialism thing because it is not a laissez fair system, there are regulations and controls in place in order to do things like protect consumers and workers, protect the environment and prevent reckless behavior by the banks. Don't like regulations ? Remember the crash of 2008? Remember child labor and sweat shops? Remember polluted water ways like the Hudson River?

Other things that you boys bleat about as Socialism are the social programs and anything that smacks of wealth redistribution. But social safety nets actually are essential Capitalism because, in a free market, demands for labor expand and contract so- there are times when there is excess labor- these programs keep those sidelined works alive and reasonably healthy for when they are need again .

As far as wealth redistribution goes, keep in mind that we have had a graduated income tax for a long time. It seems that you guys only started crying socialism around the time that Obama was elected. To much wealth and income inequality makes for an oligarchy and destroys democracy.

So if you want to preserve our way of life-our nation you have to rein in the greed

The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism.

I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.
.

The Right sees right past the bullshit. Begging Lefties bust their asses trying desperately to repackage socialism....Their current spin is silly...they’re calling it “elements of socialism”.

See post 114 and shut up

Hahaha....See, that’s what you do...you cleverly sell the “elements of socialism” that American society has finally accepted and then you follow that up with “give me more of my rich neighbors shit” disguised in other clever wording such as “wealth redistribution”.....Your diligent efforts to expand the number of “elements of socialism” is what is played the fuck out.
This all reminds me of the LGBTQ bullshit....you pitch Americans on how awesome gays are and as soon as they start to accept the twisted shit you hit them with “oh and by the way, I can choose my gender and my friend Bubba with a penis and a dress deserves the right to shit next to your 9 year old daughter”.

Thank you for that bizarre unhinged rant Dude. It seem that I've gotten to you. I'm not trying to see anyone anything. I'm just stating facts which you seem to be unable to deal with or to comment intelligently about. Then you have to throw in a red herring about the transgender issue as a smokescreen to further deflect from the topic. You are not much of a challenge to deal with

I disagree......he ripped you a new one.

Yea sure dude. Is that the best that you can do as a rebuttal ? Let's hear your brilliant analysis of socialism in America.

 

[Ambivalent1]

u

How’s Venezuela socialism doing?

Just a few points;

This thread was intended to be about the USA. Bringing up Venezuela, Cuba or any other failed socialist state is just a red herring because we have little in common with them.

Secondly, no one can deny that this is a capitalist country. Corporations are making a ton of money and free enterprise is thriving and the means of production are for the most part private .

You boys get confused about this socialism thing because it is not a laissez fair system, there are regulations and controls in place in order to do things like protect consumers and workers, protect the environment and prevent reckless behavior by the banks. Don't like regulations ? Remember the crash of 2008? Remember child labor and sweat shops? Remember polluted water ways like the Hudson River?

Other things that you boys bleat about as Socialism are the social programs and anything that smacks of wealth redistribution. But social safety nets actually are essential Capitalism because, in a free market, demands for labor expand and contract so- there are times when there is excess labor- these programs keep those sidelined works alive and reasonably healthy for when they are need again .

As far as wealth redistribution goes, keep in mind that we have had a graduated income tax for a long time. It seems that you guys only started crying socialism around the time that Obama was elected. To much wealth and income inequality makes for an oligarchy and destroys democracy.

So if you want to preserve our way of life-our nation you have to rein in the greed

The Right sees right past the bullshit. Begging Lefties bust their asses trying desperately to repackage socialism....Their current spin is silly...they’re calling it “elements of socialism”.

See post 114 and shut up

Hahaha....See, that’s what you do...you cleverly sell the “elements of socialism” that American society has finally accepted and then you follow that up with “give me more of my rich neighbors shit” disguised in other clever wording such as “wealth redistribution”.....Your diligent efforts to expand the number of “elements of socialism” is what is played the fuck out.
This all reminds me of the LGBTQ bullshit....you pitch Americans on how awesome gays are and as soon as they start to accept the twisted shit you hit them with “oh and by the way, I can choose my gender and my friend Bubba with a penis and a dress deserves the right to shit next to your 9 year old daughter”.

Thank you for that bizarre unhinged rant Dude. It seem that I've gotten to you. I'm not trying to see anyone anything. I'm just stating facts which you seem to be unable to deal with or to comment intelligently about. Then you have to throw in a red herring about the transgender issue as a smokescreen to further deflect from the topic. You are not much of a challenge to deal with

I disagree......he ripped you a new one.

Yea sure dude. Is that the best that you can do as a rebuttal ? Let's hear your brilliant analysis of socialism in America.

Why sweetie AOC has already layed* out your plans and Kamala* signed on

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

u Just a few points;

This thread was intended to be about the USA. Bringing up Venezuela, Cuba or any other failed socialist state is just a red herring because we have little in common with them.

Secondly, no one can deny that this is a capitalist country. Corporations are making a ton of money and free enterprise is thriving and the means of production are for the most part private .

You boys get confused about this socialism thing because it is not a laissez fair system, there are regulations and controls in place in order to do things like protect consumers and workers, protect the environment and prevent reckless behavior by the banks. Don't like regulations ? Remember the crash of 2008? Remember child labor and sweat shops? Remember polluted water ways like the Hudson River?

Other things that you boys bleat about as Socialism are the social programs and anything that smacks of wealth redistribution. But social safety nets actually are essential Capitalism because, in a free market, demands for labor expand and contract so- there are times when there is excess labor- these programs keep those sidelined works alive and reasonably healthy for when they are need again .

As far as wealth redistribution goes, keep in mind that we have had a graduated income tax for a long time. It seems that you guys only started crying socialism around the time that Obama was elected. To much wealth and income inequality makes for an oligarchy and destroys democracy.

So if you want to preserve our way of life-our nation you have to rein in the greed

See post 114 and shut up

Hahaha....See, that’s what you do...you cleverly sell the “elements of socialism” that American society has finally accepted and then you follow that up with “give me more of my rich neighbors shit” disguised in other clever wording such as “wealth redistribution”.....Your diligent efforts to expand the number of “elements of socialism” is what is played the fuck out.
This all reminds me of the LGBTQ bullshit....you pitch Americans on how awesome gays are and as soon as they start to accept the twisted shit you hit them with “oh and by the way, I can choose my gender and my friend Bubba with a penis and a dress deserves the right to shit next to your 9 year old daughter”.

Thank you for that bizarre unhinged rant Dude. It seem that I've gotten to you. I'm not trying to see anyone anything. I'm just stating facts which you seem to be unable to deal with or to comment intelligently about. Then you have to throw in a red herring about the transgender issue as a smokescreen to further deflect from the topic. You are not much of a challenge to deal with

I disagree......he ripped you a new one.

Yea sure dude. Is that the best that you can do as a rebuttal ? Let's hear your brilliant analysis of socialism in America.

Why sweetie AOC has already layed* out your plans and Kamala* signed on

Are you another socialism fear monger? I think so.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Hahaha....See, that’s what you do...you cleverly sell the “elements of socialism” that American society has finally accepted and then you follow that up with “give me more of my rich neighbors shit” disguised in other clever wording such as “wealth redistribution”.....Your diligent efforts to expand the number of “elements of socialism” is what is played the fuck out.
This all reminds me of the LGBTQ bullshit....you pitch Americans on how awesome gays are and as soon as they start to accept the twisted shit you hit them with “oh and by the way, I can choose my gender and my friend Bubba with a penis and a dress deserves the right to shit next to your 9 year old daughter”.

Thank you for that bizarre unhinged rant Dude. It seem that I've gotten to you. I'm not trying to see anyone anything. I'm just stating facts which you seem to be unable to deal with or to comment intelligently about. Then you have to throw in a red herring about the transgender issue as a smokescreen to further deflect from the topic. You are not much of a challenge to deal with

I disagree......he ripped you a new one.

Yea sure dude. Is that the best that you can do as a rebuttal ? Let's hear your brilliant analysis of socialism in America.

Why sweetie AOC has already layed* out your plans and Kamala* signed on

Are you another socialism fear monger? I think so.

You worship the ground she walks on, she has laid out your vision of utopian socialism and your "front runner Kamala" has endorsed it.

 

[Timmy]

Sorry son i'm paying my own way just like I always have

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Doctors and hospitals do set pricing.

They aren't advertised because the health care industry knows that information asymmetry gives a significant advantage to a seller in a free market.

LOL, they and the insurance companies negotiate pricing. Get an education. Medicare DICTATES pricing

The bought n paid for pols limit what Medicare can get for drug pricing .

 

[dblack]

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Doctors and hospitals do set pricing.

They aren't advertised because the health care industry knows that information asymmetry gives a significant advantage to a seller in a free market.

LOL, they and the insurance companies negotiate pricing. Get an education. Medicare DICTATES pricing

The bought n paid for pols limit what Medicare can get for drug pricing .

Of course they do. Gotta keep their buddies in the drug industry in tall cotton.

Socialism in America is corporatism. It's not really about government controlling the means of production. It's government distributing tax dollars to favored interest groups (many of these being corporations with well-heeled lobbyists).

 

[Ambivalent1]

How so? Cause you have insurance. The whole point of insurance is to not pay your own way .

You are paying your own way when you buy insurance, moron.

BTW, I wouldn't need insurance if the government would get the fk out of health care and let the doctors and hospitals set up pricing. what is the cost of an office visit? What is the cost of blood work? what is the cost of an xray? why aren't these costs advertised?

Doctors and hospitals do set pricing.

They aren't advertised because the health care industry knows that information asymmetry gives a significant advantage to a seller in a free market.

LOL, they and the insurance companies negotiate pricing. Get an education. Medicare DICTATES pricing

The bought n paid for pols limit what Medicare can get for drug pricing .

Yup including Barry and Bitchlary.

 

[debbiedowner]

Social programs in the United States - Wikipedia

ProgramsFederal Spending*State Spending*Total Spending*TOTAL cost in (billions) (2011)$717$210$927Social Security OASDI (2013)$785Medicare(2013)$574TOTAL all programs (billions)$2,286CASH ASSISTANCE (millions)SSI/Old Age Assistance56,4624,67361,135Earned Income Tax Credit (refundable portion)55,65255,652Refundable Child Credit22,69122,691Make Work Pay Tax Credit (Refundable Portion)13,90513,905Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF, old AFDC)6,8836,87713,760Foster Care Title IVE4,4563,9218,377Adoption Assistance Title IVE2,3621,3163,678General Assistance Cash2,6252,625Refugee Assistance168168General Assistance to Indians115115Assets for Independence2424CASH TOTAL162,71819,412182,130MEDICALMedicaid274,964157,600432,564SCHIP State Supplemental Health Insurance Program8,6293,79712,426Medical General Assistance6,9666,966Consolidated Health Center/Community Health Centers1,4811,481Maternal & Child Health6564921,148Medical Assistance to Refugees168168Healthy Start104104MEDICAL TOTAL289,817168,855458,672FOODFood Stamps, SNAP77,6376,98784,624School Lunch Program10,32110,321WIC Women, Infant and Children Food Program6,7876,787School Breakfast3,0763,076Child Care Food Program2,7322,732Nutrition Program for the Elderly, Nutrition Service Incentives820139959Summer Program376376Commodity Supplemental Food Program196196TEFAP Temporary Emergency Food Program247247Needy Families6060Farmers' Market Nutrition Program2323Special Milk Program1313FOOD TOTAL102,2887,127109,415HOUSINGSection 8 Housing (HUD)28,43528,435Public Housing (HUD)8,9738,973Low Income Housing Tax Credit for Developers6,1506,150Home Investment Partnership Program (HUD)2,8532,853Homeless Assistance Grants (HUD)2,2802,280State Housing Expenditures (from SWE)2,0852,085Rural Housing Insurance Fund (Agriculture)1,6891,689Rural Housing Service (Agriculture)1,0851,085Housing for the Elderly (HUD)934934Native American Housing Block Grants (HUD)854854Other Assisted Housing Programs (HUD)496496Housing for Persons with Disabilities (HUD)309309HOUSING TOTAL54,0582,08556,143ENERGY AND UTILITIESLIHEAP Low Income Home Energy Assistance4,4194,419Universal Service Fund Subsidized Low Income Phone Service1,7501,750Weatherization234234ENERGY AND UTILITIES TOTAL6,4036,403EDUCATIONPell Grants41,45841,458Title One Grants to Local Education Authorities14,47214,47221st Century Learning Centers1,1571,157Special Programs for Disadvantaged (TRIO)883883Supplemental Education Opportunity Grants740.00740.00Adult Basic Education Grants607607Migrant Education444444Gear-Up303303LEAP
Formerly State Student Incentive Grant Program (SSIG)11Education for Homeless Children and Youth6565Even Start44Aid for Graduate and Professional Study for Disadvantaged and Minorities4141EDUCATION TOTAL60,17560,175TRAININGTANF Work Activities and Training2,5058323,337Job Corps1,6591,659WIA Youth Opportunity Grants
Formerly Summer Youth Employment946946Senior Community Service Employment70578783WIA Adult Employment and Training
Formerly JTPA IIA Training for Disadvantaged Adults & Youth766766Food Stamp Employment and Training Program393166559Foster Grandparents10410114YouthBuild110110Migrant Training8585Native American Training5252TRAINING TOTAL7,3251,0868,411SERVICESTANF Block Grant Services5,3854,83810,223Title XX Social Services Block Grant1,7871,787Community Service Block Grant678678Social Services for Refugees Asylees and Humanitarian Cases417417Safe and Stable Families553553Title III Aging Americans Act369369Legal Services Block Grant406406Family Planning298298Emergency Food and Shelter Program4848Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Grants5050Independent Living (Chafee Foster Care Independence Program)14028168Independent Living Training Vouchers4545Maternal, Infants and Children Home Visitation3636SERVICES TOTAL10,4114,86615,278CHILD CARE AND CHILD DEVELOPMENTHeadstart7,5591,8909,449Childcare and Child Development Block Grant2,9842,1765,160Childcare Entitlement to the States3,1003,100TANF Block Grant Child Care2,3192,6444,962CHILD CARE & CHILD DEVELOPMENT TOTAL15,9626,71022,671COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENTCommunity Development Block Grant and Related Development Funds7,4457,445Economic Development Administration (Dept. of Commerce)423423Appalachian Regional Development6868Empowerment Zones, Enterprise Communities Renewal11COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TOTAL7,9377,937TOTAL in millions (2011)$717,093$210,140$927,234Social Security OASDI (2013)$785,700Medicare (2013)$574,200TOTAL in millions$2,287,133

Well didn't post the way I copied but if you go to the top link and scroll down you'll see this better. Seems to me we're more than half way there.

Social services/programs is not socialism.

So I guess wiki is wrong I guess that settles. You must be one smart SOB.

 

[debbiedowner]

Social programs in the United States - Wikipedia

ProgramsFederal Spending*State Spending*Total Spending*TOTAL cost in (billions) (2011)$717$210$927Social Security OASDI (2013)$785Medicare(2013)$574TOTAL all programs (billions)$2,286CASH ASSISTANCE (millions)SSI/Old Age Assistance56,4624,67361,135Earned Income Tax Credit (refundable portion)55,65255,652Refundable Child Credit22,69122,691Make Work Pay Tax Credit (Refundable Portion)13,90513,905Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF, old AFDC)6,8836,87713,760Foster Care Title IVE4,4563,9218,377Adoption Assistance Title IVE2,3621,3163,678General Assistance Cash2,6252,625Refugee Assistance168168General Assistance to Indians115115Assets for Independence2424CASH TOTAL162,71819,412182,130MEDICALMedicaid274,964157,600432,564SCHIP State Supplemental Health Insurance Program8,6293,79712,426Medical General Assistance6,9666,966Consolidated Health Center/Community Health Centers1,4811,481Maternal & Child Health6564921,148Medical Assistance to Refugees168168Healthy Start104104MEDICAL TOTAL289,817168,855458,672FOODFood Stamps, SNAP77,6376,98784,624School Lunch Program10,32110,321WIC Women, Infant and Children Food Program6,7876,787School Breakfast3,0763,076Child Care Food Program2,7322,732Nutrition Program for the Elderly, Nutrition Service Incentives820139959Summer Program376376Commodity Supplemental Food Program196196TEFAP Temporary Emergency Food Program247247Needy Families6060Farmers' Market Nutrition Program2323Special Milk Program1313FOOD TOTAL102,2887,127109,415HOUSINGSection 8 Housing (HUD)28,43528,435Public Housing (HUD)8,9738,973Low Income Housing Tax Credit for Developers6,1506,150Home Investment Partnership Program (HUD)2,8532,853Homeless Assistance Grants (HUD)2,2802,280State Housing Expenditures (from SWE)2,0852,085Rural Housing Insurance Fund (Agriculture)1,6891,689Rural Housing Service (Agriculture)1,0851,085Housing for the Elderly (HUD)934934Native American Housing Block Grants (HUD)854854Other Assisted Housing Programs (HUD)496496Housing for Persons with Disabilities (HUD)309309HOUSING TOTAL54,0582,08556,143ENERGY AND UTILITIESLIHEAP Low Income Home Energy Assistance4,4194,419Universal Service Fund Subsidized Low Income Phone Service1,7501,750Weatherization234234ENERGY AND UTILITIES TOTAL6,4036,403EDUCATIONPell Grants41,45841,458Title One Grants to Local Education Authorities14,47214,47221st Century Learning Centers1,1571,157Special Programs for Disadvantaged (TRIO)883883Supplemental Education Opportunity Grants740.00740.00Adult Basic Education Grants607607Migrant Education444444Gear-Up303303LEAP
Formerly State Student Incentive Grant Program (SSIG)11Education for Homeless Children and Youth6565Even Start44Aid for Graduate and Professional Study for Disadvantaged and Minorities4141EDUCATION TOTAL60,17560,175TRAININGTANF Work Activities and Training2,5058323,337Job Corps1,6591,659WIA Youth Opportunity Grants
Formerly Summer Youth Employment946946Senior Community Service Employment70578783WIA Adult Employment and Training
Formerly JTPA IIA Training for Disadvantaged Adults & Youth766766Food Stamp Employment and Training Program393166559Foster Grandparents10410114YouthBuild110110Migrant Training8585Native American Training5252TRAINING TOTAL7,3251,0868,411SERVICESTANF Block Grant Services5,3854,83810,223Title XX Social Services Block Grant1,7871,787Community Service Block Grant678678Social Services for Refugees Asylees and Humanitarian Cases417417Safe and Stable Families553553Title III Aging Americans Act369369Legal Services Block Grant406406Family Planning298298Emergency Food and Shelter Program4848Healthy Marriage and Responsible Fatherhood Grants5050Independent Living (Chafee Foster Care Independence Program)14028168Independent Living Training Vouchers4545Maternal, Infants and Children Home Visitation3636SERVICES TOTAL10,4114,86615,278CHILD CARE AND CHILD DEVELOPMENTHeadstart7,5591,8909,449Childcare and Child Development Block Grant2,9842,1765,160Childcare Entitlement to the States3,1003,100TANF Block Grant Child Care2,3192,6444,962CHILD CARE & CHILD DEVELOPMENT TOTAL15,9626,71022,671COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENTCommunity Development Block Grant and Related Development Funds7,4457,445Economic Development Administration (Dept. of Commerce)423423Appalachian Regional Development6868Empowerment Zones, Enterprise Communities Renewal11COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TOTAL7,9377,937TOTAL in millions (2011)$717,093$210,140$927,234Social Security OASDI (2013)$785,700Medicare (2013)$574,200TOTAL in millions$2,287,133

Well didn't post the way I copied but if you go to the top link and scroll down you'll see this better. Seems to me we're more than half way there.

Social services/programs is not socialism.

yes, social services must be socialism or they would be called capital services.

No need to further show off your low IQ.

We have known this about you for quite some time.

No need to show your how low your IQ is those are examples of socialism so eat.