How about some examples of this “socialism” stuff y’all are afraid of?

Cons seem to love tagging everything they don’t like as “socialism “ . The word has lost all meaning .

How about some real life examples of American socialism? And how it’s hurt us .

I’ll give you an example : US socialism going waaaay back to the 1800s . When the gov purchased and then opened up the west and gave away land to Americans.


as a conservative I can give some REAL examples of how socialism has affected me.

1. I love football!
and all over the country our tax dollars are being used to build GIGANTIC football stadiums so that I can pay $10 for watered down beer at the game. LOVE socialism!

2. Being married with 4 kids I get TAX BREAKS which result in my paying LESS for taxes than single people do, or gays, or married people with no kids. LOVE socialism!

3. Being politically INcorrect I have spent my whole life smoking tobacco (while arresting pot smokers), drinking way too much, eating fatty unhealthy foods, refusing to diet or exercise and NOW I have heart disease and diabetes and bad knees and bad back and bad legs and bad lungs and I have to go to the doctor all the time and take all of these expensive medicines and pills(because i still refuse to diet or exercise) but that is Ok because I have Medicare or Medicaid and EVERYBODY ELSE is going to pay for my irresponsible lifestyle! LOVE socialism!
 
We have zero socialism in America. It's no threat nor does it have any support. It's like Sasquatch. People say it exists it's just not to be found.
Government is socialism.
The absence of government is anarchy
The chaos of capitalism is a form of anarchy.

Anarcho-Capitalism is a "holy grail" for the right wing.
Only in the absence of regulations- therefor Republicans are economic anarchists
 
We have zero socialism in America. It's no threat nor does it have any support. It's like Sasquatch. People say it exists it's just not to be found.
Government is socialism.
The absence of government is anarchy
The chaos of capitalism is a form of anarchy.

Anarcho-Capitalism is a "holy grail" for the right wing.
Only in the absence of regulations- therefor Republicans are economic anarchists

Yeah. Not exactly. If that were true I might actually vote Republican.
 
Cons seem to love tagging everything they don’t like as “socialism “ . The word has lost all meaning .

How about some real life examples of American socialism? And how it’s hurt us .

I’ll give you an example : US socialism going waaaay back to the 1800s . When the gov purchased and then opened up the west and gave away land to Americans.
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The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism.

I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.
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We already have enough (too many) elements of Socialism in our society.

And altogether too many deluded Socialists.

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Over Thirty million Russians died over collectivism in the 1930's in the Soviet Union. With all of our flaws, government has no soul when agendas become a tsunami. People believed in our nation during the depression that Sovit successes were making the rich. They did not know of the exterminations of people. This led to McCarthy. Now we embryonic Lenin Mensheviks in the Progressive Socialist Party that will lead to Bolsheviks.
In the 1930s we enacted socialist policies to keep people from starving
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.
Ask the families in the Dust Bowl
Ask the prisoners staving in Stalin's gulags how they liked socialism. Ask the people of Venezuela how they like socialism.
 
Over Thirty million Russians died over collectivism in the 1930's in the Soviet Union. With all of our flaws, government has no soul when agendas become a tsunami. People believed in our nation during the depression that Sovit successes were making the rich. They did not know of the exterminations of people. This led to McCarthy. Now we embryonic Lenin Mensheviks in the Progressive Socialist Party that will lead to Bolsheviks.
In the 1930s we enacted socialist policies to keep people from starving
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.

I guess all those old timers that were hungry were too stupid to know that it was the churches that turned America around and not FDR.
FDR lengthened the depression. He didn't "turn anything around."
 
the manufacturer was a private company paid by the government. that isn't socialist at all. My company makes product for the government and we get paid for it. hmmmm not clear your point asswipe.

The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives. Those programs give their citizens a tremendous amount of freedom to plan and organize our lives.

I have lived my life with the full knowledge and understanding that my basic medical care is a given. Whether I am working full time, unemployed or retired, I never in my life have had to worry about having enough money to take care of my medical needs. I don't have to save up for treatments or worry about co-pays, these things are a given. That, in and of itself, is freedom you don't have. I don't have to worry about what happens to my health care coverage if I change jobs, or if I'm unemployed for any length of time. Health care is my right.

Imagine if you had that freedom.

The freedom of waiting for a year to get a knew replacement. The freedom of waiting 6 months to get chemotherapy if you have cancer. The freedom of never receiving some kinds of treatments because the ministry of health decided that they were too expensive. The freedom of waiting 6 months to get an MRI to determine if you have a tumor in your brain.

Yeah, that's real freedom!
Takes just as long with private healthcare if you get it at all..
Wrong.
I have had both and it takes just as long as the VA as it does for private insurance.
Tell that to the veterans who died waiting to see a doctor.
 
The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives. Those programs give their citizens a tremendous amount of freedom to plan and organize our lives.

I have lived my life with the full knowledge and understanding that my basic medical care is a given. Whether I am working full time, unemployed or retired, I never in my life have had to worry about having enough money to take care of my medical needs. I don't have to save up for treatments or worry about co-pays, these things are a given. That, in and of itself, is freedom you don't have. I don't have to worry about what happens to my health care coverage if I change jobs, or if I'm unemployed for any length of time. Health care is my right.

Imagine if you had that freedom.

The freedom of waiting for a year to get a knew replacement. The freedom of waiting 6 months to get chemotherapy if you have cancer. The freedom of never receiving some kinds of treatments because the ministry of health decided that they were too expensive. The freedom of waiting 6 months to get an MRI to determine if you have a tumor in your brain.

Yeah, that's real freedom!
Takes just as long with private healthcare if you get it at all..
Wrong.
I have had both and it takes just as long as the VA as it does for private insurance.
Tell that to the veterans who died waiting to see a doctor.
dude you imagined that. that didn't actually happen, the left have all the answers. There is no need for any discussion on the subject it's their way or no way.
 
In the 1930s we enacted socialist policies to keep people from starving
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.
Ask the families in the Dust Bowl
Ask the prisoners staving in Stalin's gulags how they liked socialism. Ask the people of Venezuela how they like socialism.
Fingerboy...

What the hell does that have to do with FDR?
 
In the 1930s we enacted socialist policies to keep people from starving
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.

I guess all those old timers that were hungry were too stupid to know that it was the churches that turned America around and not FDR.
FDR lengthened the depression. He didn't "turn anything around."
FDR rescued the people suffering from the depression
He considered that more important than rescuing the banks
 
It went well beyond the New Deal

After Pearl Harbor, the Government took control of our industrial production, decided who built what, controlled all critical resources and where workers were allocated.

Socialism won WWII
Bullshit. War socialism only harmed our ability to prosecute the war. What it did do is hide the cost of the war. Otherwise the taxpayers would have revolted.

If we relied on capitalism to fight WWII, we would have lost

Companies deciding whether or not they would produce war goods, critical supplies going to the highest bidder, workers coming and going as they pleased, companies funding their own R&D
It's funny to watch conservative republicans not know how socialistic Total War was. Businesses got told by the government what they were manufacture for the war effort. No choices there.
the manufacturer was a private company paid by the government. that isn't socialist at all. My company makes product for the government and we get paid for it. hmmmm not clear your point asswipe.

The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives. Those programs give their citizens a tremendous amount of freedom to plan and organize our lives.

I have lived my life with the full knowledge and understanding that my basic medical care is a given. Whether I am working full time, unemployed or retired, I never in my life have had to worry about having enough money to take care of my medical needs. I don't have to save up for treatments or worry about co-pays, these things are a given. That, in and of itself, is freedom you don't have. I don't have to worry about what happens to my health care coverage if I change jobs, or if I'm unemployed for any length of time. Health care is my right.

Imagine if you had that freedom.
The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives

What definition is that? My definition is a program set up, run and funded by the government is socialism. I even gave the ones we have, obammycare, medicare and social security. Now, please explain, the difference with your definition?
 
The current incarnation of the Right doesn't seem to be able to distinguish a difference between elements of socialism and total socialism.

I don't know why. I definitely have my guesses, though.
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We already have enough (too many) elements of Socialism in our society.

And altogether too many deluded Socialists.

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yes; we have a general welfare clause not a general warfare clause.
 
Bad . For many reasons . Mainly corruption.

How’s UAE socialism doing ?

American socialism programs seem to be doing great .

UAE is a capitalist nation.
Loooool....ignorance these trump supporters display everyday is baffling.

Like I said . They don’t know what the word means . It’s just an insult to them: “This pizza has anchovies , its socialist !”

I get it. You don't want to Keep America Great. You want it to flounder like socialist Venezuela. Who is trying to get out of socialism.

What we do here is nothing like what’s going on in Venezuela.

Unless you’d like to provide an example . Cause I’m not really seeing any .
well you haven't been paying attention. What we say and have said is you all want us to be a venezuela. now run along and play with your toys.
 
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.
Ask the families in the Dust Bowl
Ask the prisoners staving in Stalin's gulags how they liked socialism. Ask the people of Venezuela how they like socialism.
Fingerboy...

What the hell does that have to do with FDR?
You're using him to support socialism. Why not look at how socialism actually works?
 
In the 1930s we enacted socialist policies to keep people from starving
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.
Ask the families in the Dust Bowl
Ask the prisoners staving in Stalin's gulags how they liked socialism. Ask the people of Venezuela how they like socialism.
the socialism of our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror are a waste of the Other Peoples' money.
 
In the 1930s we enacted socialist policies to keep people from starving
The socialist policies are what caused people to go hungry. Nobody starved, however.
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.

I guess all those old timers that were hungry were too stupid to know that it was the churches that turned America around and not FDR.
FDR lengthened the depression. He didn't "turn anything around."
He "turned a Margin Call into a first world economy".
 
FDR saved them
FDR is the reason they went hungry. Most soup kitchens were run by churches, anyway, moron.
Ask the families in the Dust Bowl
Ask the prisoners staving in Stalin's gulags how they liked socialism. Ask the people of Venezuela how they like socialism.
Fingerboy...

What the hell does that have to do with FDR?
You're using him to support socialism. Why not look at how socialism actually works?
we are. lousy right wing management does that. Thank Goodness FDR was a left winger.
 
If we relied on capitalism to fight WWII, we would have lost

Companies deciding whether or not they would produce war goods, critical supplies going to the highest bidder, workers coming and going as they pleased, companies funding their own R&D
It's funny to watch conservative republicans not know how socialistic Total War was. Businesses got told by the government what they were manufacture for the war effort. No choices there.
the manufacturer was a private company paid by the government. that isn't socialist at all. My company makes product for the government and we get paid for it. hmmmm not clear your point asswipe.

The problem is that any program set up, run and funded by the government to benefit society, is "socialism", not the definition being used by American conservatives. Those programs give their citizens a tremendous amount of freedom to plan and organize our lives.

I have lived my life with the full knowledge and understanding that my basic medical care is a given. Whether I am working full time, unemployed or retired, I never in my life have had to worry about having enough money to take care of my medical needs. I don't have to save up for treatments or worry about co-pays, these things are a given. That, in and of itself, is freedom you don't have. I don't have to worry about what happens to my health care coverage if I change jobs, or if I'm unemployed for any length of time. Health care is my right.

Imagine if you had that freedom.

No need to "imagine" anything. I earn my way, pay my premiums, co-pays and coinsurance. Imagine my freedom of not needing a f*cking thing from you.

Until a bad accident or health problem comes your way . Then you’d be “socilaism Save me!”
why? first off, I'm not lazy, I have prepared for such things in my life by working at a company that provides me healthcare. it was a main benefit I shopped for when I did my job searches. I saved money so that in the event I lost my job, I had money to use to transition to a new job. I took the responsibility of myself and my family. why can't you?
 

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