Hope they pass Trumpcare.....

[debbiedowner]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

/---- Trumpcare is 100% transparent. We don't have to pass it to see what's in it. This will be phase 1. When all the phases are complete including selling across state lines then you can judge. I predict there will be some Dem support.
View attachment 124706

Don't hold your breath about the state lines, insurance companies have been able to that under ACA since Jan 1 2016 I believe and no one did. You're not going to purchase a plan in Arizona for $100 if you live in Florida and expect a provider to accept what that insurance company in Arizona is willing to pay. This should take years to work out if ever. You have each state department of insurance and national association of insurance commissioner's to deal with.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

You know what I wish for daily?

Vikander sitting on my face and not some political party committing political suicide.

I know my wish is just that a wish.

Oh, the Democrats have 20+ seats to defend in the Senate, so it will take more than Trumpcare to get your dream to come true and the House is still impossible.

 

[JoeMoma]

We are on the road to a single payer system. It my by 8 years, it might be 50 years, but it's going to happen.

 

[blastoff]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

Yeah, but Trump said if we liked our doctors we can keep them and ditto for our health plans and we'd save $2,500.00 due to lower premiums and...oh, wait. Never mind.

If you want to fret over the '18 election a good place to concentrate on would be the 23 Senate seats the dimocrats have to defend. Ten of which are in states Trump won in '16, five of them by double digits, and five also won by Romney in '12 too.

Sleep tight, snowflake.

Obama or his aides were oblivious of how insurance worked. I am sure he believed you could keep your doctor, but did not know with networks all provider's can come and go at their contract time. Once in a while an insurance company will kick a doc out of network during the year.

His assertion of you'd save $2500 a year was just dumb. He should have checked with actuaries and asked, What happens when you take everyone with pre existing conditions and are paying out million's more for claims? Hell he didn't even have to check with actuaries, anyone can figure out if you're taking on thousand's more being treated for cancer is going to cost you a fortune. What he was referring to but did not say it was if you get a large subsidy your premium's will come down $2500 which in almost every case was true, but not for the people not receiving a subsidy.

I'm sure you believe Barry believed.

 

[debbiedowner]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

Yeah, but Trump said if we liked our doctors we can keep them and ditto for our health plans and we'd save $2,500.00 due to lower premiums and...oh, wait. Never mind.

If you want to fret over the '18 election a good place to concentrate on would be the 23 Senate seats the dimocrats have to defend. Ten of which are in states Trump won in '16, five of them by double digits, and five also won by Romney in '12 too.

Sleep tight, snowflake.

Obama or his aides were oblivious of how insurance worked. I am sure he believed you could keep your doctor, but did not know with networks all provider's can come and go at their contract time. Once in a while an insurance company will kick a doc out of network during the year.

His assertion of you'd save $2500 a year was just dumb. He should have checked with actuaries and asked, What happens when you take everyone with pre existing conditions and are paying out million's more for claims? Hell he didn't even have to check with actuaries, anyone can figure out if you're taking on thousand's more being treated for cancer is going to cost you a fortune. What he was referring to but did not say it was if you get a large subsidy your premium's will come down $2500 which in almost every case was true, but not for the people not receiving a subsidy.

I'm sure you believe Barry believed.

So I guess you're looking for a fight after this thread has been civil. Do you know anything about health insurance?

 

[NightFox]

Prediction, The House passes it, it dies in the Senate.

And some GOP House members will die with it.

Won't happen, let's see Obama shut down the Govt and it was said Pubs would die a horrible death in the mid-terms. They took the House. Two year later, they took the Senate and now Hillary is knitting little sickies for Bill and Chelsea. No changes will take place until the powers that be decide they will take place. 2016 was a staged election so I'm not certain there will be any mid-terms.

The present bill would add 14K per year to my wife's insurance because she has rheumatoid arthritis. .

So instead of you paying that 14K of expenses that are by all standards of common decency your responsibility, you want the rest of us to pay it for you? Sounds like you want to foist off that "pre-existing" condition on your fellow citizens and I for one don't appreciate you advocating the federal government holding a gun to my head and forcing me to pay for YOUR expenses.

 

[debbiedowner]

We are on the road to a single payer system. It my by 8 years, it might be 50 years, but it's going to happen.

I'm sure it will sometime or another.

 

[g5000]

There is one, and only one, metric by which the success or failure of TrumpCare will be judged by the American people:


Cost.




If health care bills reach unprecedented levels, the GOP will pay a heavy, heavy penalty.

Period.

 

[Cellblock2429]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

/---- Trumpcare is 100% transparent. We don't have to pass it to see what's in it. This will be phase 1. When all the phases are complete including selling across state lines then you can judge. I predict there will be some Dem support.
View attachment 124706

Don't hold your breath about the state lines, insurance companies have been able to that under ACA since Jan 1 2016 I believe and no one did. You're not going to purchase a plan in Arizona for $100 if you live in Florida and expect a provider to accept what that insurance company in Arizona is willing to pay. This should take years to work out if ever. You have each state department of insurance and national association of insurance commissioner's to deal with.

/---- So buying out of state insurance for home, auto, liability and life is a stupid idea?

 

[g5000]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

/---- Trumpcare is 100% transparent. We don't have to pass it to see what's in it. This will be phase 1. When all the phases are complete including selling across state lines then you can judge. I predict there will be some Dem support.
View attachment 124706

Don't hold your breath about the state lines, insurance companies have been able to that under ACA since Jan 1 2016 I believe and no one did.

Nope. That's a lie. Health insurance companies are not allowed to sell insurance across the entire country the way auto, home, and life insurance companies are.

 

[debbiedowner]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

/---- Trumpcare is 100% transparent. We don't have to pass it to see what's in it. This will be phase 1. When all the phases are complete including selling across state lines then you can judge. I predict there will be some Dem support.
View attachment 124706

Don't hold your breath about the state lines, insurance companies have been able to that under ACA since Jan 1 2016 I believe and no one did. You're not going to purchase a plan in Arizona for $100 if you live in Florida and expect a provider to accept what that insurance company in Arizona is willing to pay. This should take years to work out if ever. You have each state department of insurance and national association of insurance commissioner's to deal with.

/---- So buying out of state insurance for home, auto, liability and life is a stupid idea?
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I never said it was stupid, did I? The home, auto, liability can only be bought across state lines if they're an admitted insurance company to your state. Also many of the larger one's may be incorporated in each state they do business, such as State Farm of Florida or under a sub heading.

 

[Siete]

There is one, and only one, metric by which the success or failure of TrumpCare will be judged by the American people:


Cost.




If health care bills reach unprecedented levels, the GOP will pay a heavy, heavy penalty.

Period.

when has The Hair Club President delivered on his bullshit promises ?

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in press conference Jan. 11. “We’re going to have a healthcare that is far less expensive and far better"

uh huh, sure.

 

[debbiedowner]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

/---- Trumpcare is 100% transparent. We don't have to pass it to see what's in it. This will be phase 1. When all the phases are complete including selling across state lines then you can judge. I predict there will be some Dem support.
View attachment 124706

Don't hold your breath about the state lines, insurance companies have been able to that under ACA since Jan 1 2016 I believe and no one did.

Nope. That's a lie. Health insurance companies are not allowed to sell insurance across the entire country the way auto, home, and life insurance companies are.

I think you better take a look at ACA and when certain rules were implemented.

 

[g5000]

As everyone well remembers, one of the biggest criticism against passing of the ACA was attributed that it passed without ANY republican approval.....So, guess what will happen when Trumpcare (at least in the House) passes without a single (well maybe one or two) Dem votes?

Further, the 30 second adds are soon to be prepared by the DNC against vulnerable GOP seats in 2018 for their vote on ultimately kicking folks out of the ACA's provision that insurance companies MUST accept to insure people with pre existing conditions.

The moronic and unfounded Trump promise that ALL would be covered at a cheaper and better premium is just that....a moronic, unfulfilled and broken promise....and all who are forced to vote for Trumpcare will ultimately have to carry that "albatross" on their back......

Want to guess which states have the MOST people who will lose coverage?....Mississippi, WV ,Al, KY, TN, SC, etc......all states that foolishly trusted the Trumpster.,

/---- Trumpcare is 100% transparent. We don't have to pass it to see what's in it. This will be phase 1. When all the phases are complete including selling across state lines then you can judge. I predict there will be some Dem support.
View attachment 124706

Don't hold your breath about the state lines, insurance companies have been able to that under ACA since Jan 1 2016 I believe and no one did.

Nope. That's a lie. Health insurance companies are not allowed to sell insurance across the entire country the way auto, home, and life insurance companies are.

I think you better take a look at ACA and when certain rules were implemented.

I think you better stop reading propaganda outlets which lie to you.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

There is one, and only one, metric by which the success or failure of TrumpCare will be judged by the American people:


Cost.




If health care bills reach unprecedented levels, the GOP will pay a heavy, heavy penalty.

Period.

Health care bills have already reached unprecedented levels.

 

[g5000]

Insurance firms in each state are protected from interstate competition by the federal McCarran-Ferguson Act, which grants states the right to regulate health plans within their borders.

Health insurance companies are not allowed to sell insurance in any state they wish.

Fact.

 

[debbiedowner]

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ148/pdf/PLAW-111publ148.pdf

Section 133 page 109

Selling health insurance across state lines – it’s already legal under Obamacare | Jamie Dupree - PBP

 

[g5000]

There is one, and only one, metric by which the success or failure of TrumpCare will be judged by the American people:


Cost.




If health care bills reach unprecedented levels, the GOP will pay a heavy, heavy penalty.

Period.

Health care bills have already reached unprecedented levels.

Yes, which is why I have said from the get-go that ObamaCare was a bait and switch con.

TrumpCare is shaping up to be the biggest hoax of all.

 

[debbiedowner]

Insurance firms in each state are protected from interstate competition by the federal McCarran-Ferguson Act, which grants states the right to regulate health plans within their borders.

Health insurance companies are not allowed to sell insurance in any state they wish.

Fact.

See links above.

 

[easyt65]

'Hope they pass Trumpcare.....'

Whattaya know, snowflakes can be taught.

I argued from the start that Democrats were stupid, being led by an idiot. Of course I mean Schumer. He had such tunnel-vision regarding opposing everything Trump did he did not see the Democrats would be better off joining Ryan in passing anything they come up with JUST TO GET OBAMA'S NAME OFF THE BILL AND PASS THE DISASTER OFF TO GOP OWNERSHIP.

With the mind-set that the worst the GOP does the better for Democrats, the Democrats should have helped pass the 1st version but it's almost a sure bet the 1st one was worse than this one.

They may be slow, but they are catching on.