Debate Now Honest Debate About Abortion: Rules Posted

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You'll have to go sell your racist boogeyman message elsewhere. Maybe you can get a primetime interview on MSNBC or CNN.

And you'll have to go whine somewhere else. Because this board is for actually meeting. The points people make, ya sissy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're projecting your racism. This has nothing to do with race.

A stupid lie of course. The point to which I responded has everything to do with race. And is the product of the white nationalist fuck heads.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Which is a deceptive co-opting of that term, since honestly calling themselves "anti choice" would be too honest for them and sounds bad. Because it is bad.

I would gladly be labeled "anti-choice" if that "choice" meant killing an innocent human.

That's what the debate is about. You're worried about the labels and words, I'm trying to talk about the issue. Don't worry, you're not a political strategist here... you don't have to play this game.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

A stupid lie of course. The point to which I responded has everything to do with race. And is the product of the white nationalist fuck heads.

It's hard to discuss a topic when one side (you) is so full of hate and accusing people of horrible things that have nothing to do with the topic. If you can't be civil and discuss the topic, perhaps this thread isn't for you.

 

[otto105]

You'll have to go sell your racist boogeyman message elsewhere. Maybe you can get a primetime interview on MSNBC or CNN.

This post from a poster who believes in the Replacement Theory.

 

[otto105]

I would gladly be labeled "anti-choice" if that "choice" meant killing an innocent human.

That's what the debate is about. You're worried about the labels and words, I'm trying to talk about the issue. Don't worry, you're not a political strategist here... you don't have to play this game.

Are you really trying to equate a zygote to a person?

 

[otto105]

Because we gauge whether a human is dead by whether they have a pulse or not. It would only be fitting that view it as alive once the pulse of a forming heart begins.

I'm not sure what your question is.

If a baby is born, the most severe measures are taken to save it if its life is in danger.

Is that true of all people young, middle and old age?

 

[Flopper]

Let me get this straight, so I don't represent you incorrectly...

You think any being that isn't able to articulate speech and cannot stand upright isn't human?

Do I have that correct>?

No. The homo sapient species is distinguished from other animals by superior intelligence, standing upright, and development of articulate speech. Man, Women, and Child are compornts of the species.

 

[JohnDB]

Yes, sorry.

Then by all means show me the statistics that counter my claim.

I know better....because you can't....and EVERYTHING I've said is true with bells on.

So....
We as a society of people can no longer afford abortion or homosexuality or even elective sterility.

We won't exist in 2 generations.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

No. The homo sapient species is distinguished from other animals by superior intelligence, standing upright, and development of articulate speech. Man, Women, and Child are compornts of the species.

So if a baby cannot speak articulately and cannot walk upright… they are not homo sapient?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Is that true of all people young, middle and old age?

Generally yes, unless they have a DNR.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

This post from a poster who believes in the Replacement Theory.

Show me where I’ve talked about that. You can’t, because I haven’t

Why are you just making things up? It makes you boring to talk to, and insures you have no credibility in your claims

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Are you really trying to equate a zygote to a person?

A zygote can absolutely be considered a developing human being philosophically. Humans don’t develop fully until they are 18-25 years old

 

[Mr. Friscus]

And you'll have to go whine somewhere else. Because this board is for actually meeting. The points people make, ya sissy.

Well your race-card, white nationalist conspiracy has been seen and largely laughed at.. as well as completely off topic, so let’s move on

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

This topic cannot in all fairmess be discussed without the influence of religion, or the OP's beliefs.

I will now step aside.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

This topic cannot in all fairmess be discussed without the influence of religion,

Not true

or the OP's beliefs.

I will now step aside.

I hope you get your big boy pants on and return if you can

 

[Flopper]

So if a baby cannot speak articulately and cannot walk upright… they are not homo sapient?

You’re being silly. The definition is referring to the species.

 

[Mortis]

What if incest was involved?

Should that issue be treated like all others?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You’re being silly. The definition is referring to the species.

No, I’m trying to understand your position,

I know what human beings are defined as as far as characteristics.. but they don’t always have those characteristics..

I Don’t get how this relates to abortion

 

[Flopper]

No, I’m trying to understand your position,

I know what human beings are defined as as far as characteristics.. but they don’t always have those characteristics..

I Don’t get how this relates to abortion

Most of the prolife reasoning for outlawing abortion is based on the fetus being a human being, a person. Thus destroying featus is committing murder.

So if the accepted definition of a human being does not include the unborn (fetus), then there is little justification for banning abortion.

A man, woman, or child of the species Homo sapiens, distinguished from other animals by superior mental development, power of articulate speech, and upright stance.

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In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
1 U.S. Code Section 8

A human being is a human child or adult.

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