Homosexuals - Born or Turn

Born or Turn

  • Born

    Votes: 20 62.5%
  • Turn

    Votes: 12 37.5%

  • Total voters
    32
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Your are born male or female what you decide to be after that come from your head, most kids who are shy, ridiculed, or just cant talk to the opposite sex feel out of place and find excuses to make them feel better. being different eases their frustration.

Are you saying kids who are shy, ridiculed and have no game with the opposite sex turn to homosexuality?:eusa_eh:

only the weak ones
 
if a young person has a feeling of wanting to have sex with their dog or horse and then does it repeatedly is this accepted as normal?
 
if a young person has a feeling of wanting to have sex with their dog or horse and then does it repeatedly is this accepted as normal?

is a dog or horse a consenting adult?

nice segway from homosexuality to beastiality though... no effort to disparage there.

so homos only exist if they have a consenting partner

If a homosexual tries to have sex with another person who does not consent, that is rape and sexual assault, same with us heteros.
 
why not do you accept same sex as normal?

Having sex with another human and sticking it to a dog are 2 different things.

the technique is the same.
And the "technique" of cutting an onion is the same as stabbing a person. Yeah they're exactly the same, and every time you cook from now on, you are committing human murder.

For that matter, heterosexual sex is the same "technique" as beastiality. I don't see you comparing those two.

Do you see how ridiculous your claims are? I love the really ignorant bigots because they give a great example to everyone else why they should avoid that path of stupidity.

so homos only exist if they have a consenting partner
Same as "heteros" or it's rape.

The key idea here is that sex is acceptable only with consenting adults. That's the cutoff.

Please continue though. I'd love to continue publicly making a fool out of you as a deterrent to others.
 
rdean wrote:


Cuz it's only "awful" to someone as far lefty and outta touch with mainstream anything, like you. You likely view it as awful cuz you want the Jackass stranglehold on us to continue, too bad. We're growing in numbers. We're rejecting your party of slavery, racism, bigotry (Clinton admin. most anti-gay IN HISTORY) etc.


Ima just go ahead and call BS on all this right here. ALL my straight GOPer friends HAVE NO PROBLEM with me, IT'S NEVER been an issue ANYWHERE I went politically.

ALL my fellow gay GOPers are also proud of what they are sexually and politically. Also, do the Jackasses have any prominent, gay rights party groups like we do? We got LCR and GOPROUD.

They have, NONE.

Which Republican positions do you find attractive? Something specific. No "sound bytes".

Everything the party was founded on and most of it's current national platform:

*Small federal government that respects individualism, and personal liberty/privacy.
*Fiscal responsibility (low, FLAT taxes, low spending)
*Strong national defense/security.
*Pro-Life
*Border security

I can go on. Those are most of the issues that are most important to me. The majority of the GOP obviously agrees with me on all of those.

Matter fact, the only thing that I really disagree with my party on is gay marriage, but the majority of Jackasses, and their party top brass DO TOO. So that really makes that a moot issue when choosing a political party, to ANYONE who's informed anyway.

Plus, my party is thankfully becoming more tolerant of that as the years pass. My party was instrumental in repealing DADT, our last Presidential candidate voted AGAINST the '04 gay marriage bill, etc.

So I'd stop all this "GOP is teh evvvviiiil wanna make u deeeead" BS dude, it aint gettin you nowhere good.

The left wants those things to, but in a more "thoughtful way".

*Small federal government that respects individualism, and personal liberty/privacy.
We want a government big enough to do the job. We don't want "small" for the sake of "small". As far as "respects individualism", I don't understand how the right can be so anti "everybody" and say they "respect anyone? I'm mystified by that. Putting religion into public schools, DADT (and that was a "compromise" conservatives), the "Patriot Act".

*Fiscal responsibility (low, FLAT taxes, low spending)
Everyone wants "low" taxes. And things like Social Security and Medicare ARE "fiscally responsible". Imagine if every sick person in the US showed up at the emergency room? Will conservatives cut that too? Change the law?

*Strong national defense/security.
Everyone wants a "strong national defense/security", but if the people are living out of cardboard boxes and old cars, if our jobs are in China, we don't have a strong defense and we certainly don't have "security".

*Pro-Life
What about women? What about taking care of the baby AFTER it's born? Even Sarah Palin cut spending for unwed mothers. You can't just get it born and then walk away. And what about the "women"? You know that during the last election, John McCain was against insurance companies paying for birth control because McCain felt it was a "lifestyle choice" but felt "Viagra" should be paid for because it's a "medical condition". Does that sound fair?

*Border security
The only problem I have with that is how does it get "paid for"? Republicans want a huge military, and money for "border control" and intrusion into women's lives and the "Patriot Act". How do all these things get paid for? You can't grow government and shrink government at the same time.

That's the problem with Republican "talking points". As soon as you start "talking", then you realize that complex problems have complex solutions. Republicans make everything seem so "simple". That's why they have no solutions and no one can name any Republican success for at least a decade or more.

The first step towards "debate" is to "learn something" first and yes, it's just that "simple".
 
The left wants those things to, but in a more "thoughtful way".

If you had a living brain cell in your had you would be dangerous. The last thing the left is is thoughtful, they are reactionary.

*Small federal government that respects individualism, and personal liberty/privacy.
We want a government big enough to do the job. We don't want "small" for the sake of "small". As far as "respects individualism", I don't understand how the right can be so anti "everybody" and say they "respect anyone? I'm mystified by that. Putting religion into public schools, DADT (and that was a "compromise" conservatives), the "Patriot Act".

How big is too big? By the way, the Patriot Act was passed by an overwhelming majority, and included many of your leftist, liberal, Democrats.

*Fiscal responsibility (low, FLAT taxes, low spending)
Everyone wants "low" taxes. And things like Social Security and Medicare ARE "fiscally responsible". Imagine if every sick person in the US showed up at the emergency room? Will conservatives cut that too? Change the law?

Aren't you one of the people who think that rich people should pay high taxes? Don't you believe that taxes on corporations are too low? Are you now resorting to blatant lies in an attempt to lure Righteous back to the fickle arms of the Democrats?

*Strong national defense/security.
Everyone wants a "strong national defense/security", but if the people are living out of cardboard boxes and old cars, if our jobs are in China, we don't have a strong defense and we certainly don't have "security".

I know. you would rather see the Chinese starve and force them to attack us than give them jobs. I do not understand that, but it is typical of racist bigots like you.

*Pro-Life
What about women? What about taking care of the baby AFTER it's born? Even Sarah Palin cut spending for unwed mothers. You can't just get it born and then walk away. And what about the "women"? You know that during the last election, John McCain was against insurance companies paying for birth control because McCain felt it was a "lifestyle choice" but felt "Viagra" should be paid for because it's a "medical condition". Does that sound fair?

Life sucks, do you have a point? Or do you think high taxes and big government can fix that?

*Border security
The only problem I have with that is how does it get "paid for"? Republicans want a huge military, and money for "border control" and intrusion into women's lives and the "Patriot Act". How do all these things get paid for? You can't grow government and shrink government at the same time.

The PATRIOT Act has nothing to do with the border. The question is not how do we pay for a secure border, it is how we pay for an insecure one. That doesn't bother you though because it isn't the Chinese who are crossing it. Did you know that there are thousands upon thousands of illegal Chinese immigrants? Does the thought of all those Chinese being here worry you? Should we have the Navy patrol the pacific to make sure no Chinese manage to sneak on to ships that are coming this way?

That's the problem with Republican "talking points". As soon as you start "talking", then you realize that complex problems have complex solutions. Republicans make everything seem so "simple". That's why they have no solutions and no one can name any Republican success for at least a decade or more.

The first step towards "debate" is to "learn something" first and yes, it's just that "simple".

Irony again.
 
The left wants those things to, but in a more "thoughtful way".

If you had a living brain cell in your had you would be dangerous. The last thing the left is is thoughtful, they are reactionary.

*Small federal government that respects individualism, and personal liberty/privacy.
We want a government big enough to do the job. We don't want "small" for the sake of "small". As far as "respects individualism", I don't understand how the right can be so anti "everybody" and say they "respect anyone? I'm mystified by that. Putting religion into public schools, DADT (and that was a "compromise" conservatives), the "Patriot Act".

How big is too big? By the way, the Patriot Act was passed by an overwhelming majority, and included many of your leftist, liberal, Democrats.



Aren't you one of the people who think that rich people should pay high taxes? Don't you believe that taxes on corporations are too low? Are you now resorting to blatant lies in an attempt to lure Righteous back to the fickle arms of the Democrats?



I know. you would rather see the Chinese starve and force them to attack us than give them jobs. I do not understand that, but it is typical of racist bigots like you.



Life sucks, do you have a point? Or do you think high taxes and big government can fix that?

*Border security
The only problem I have with that is how does it get "paid for"? Republicans want a huge military, and money for "border control" and intrusion into women's lives and the "Patriot Act". How do all these things get paid for? You can't grow government and shrink government at the same time.

The PATRIOT Act has nothing to do with the border. The question is not how do we pay for a secure border, it is how we pay for an insecure one. That doesn't bother you though because it isn't the Chinese who are crossing it. Did you know that there are thousands upon thousands of illegal Chinese immigrants? Does the thought of all those Chinese being here worry you? Should we have the Navy patrol the pacific to make sure no Chinese manage to sneak on to ships that are coming this way?

That's the problem with Republican "talking points". As soon as you start "talking", then you realize that complex problems have complex solutions. Republicans make everything seem so "simple". That's why they have no solutions and no one can name any Republican success for at least a decade or more.

The first step towards "debate" is to "learn something" first and yes, it's just that "simple".

Irony again.

There was no debate from you. Rants and "imaginings". That's it.

The one real "gem" was "Give the Chinese jobs or they'll attack". How was thoughtful? But it was "hilarious", you have to admit that.
 
rdean wrote:

The left wants those things to, but in a more "thoughtful way".
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We want a government big enough to do the job.
Well seeing as how you've displayed that you really dunno what the federal government should AND SHOULDN'T be doing/funding, you kinda lack credibility here.


We don't want "small" for the sake of "small".
Neither do we, WE WANT SMALL FOR THE SAKE OF THE CONSTITUTION, AND PERSONAL LIBERTY/FREEDOM.

As far as "respects individualism", I don't understand how the right can be so anti "everybody" and say they "respect anyone? I'm mystified by that. Putting religion into public schools, DADT (and that was a "compromise" conservatives), the "Patriot Act".
The 1st part of your "retort" aint even make sense. Prayer in schools should be A CHOICE, obviously not mandatory, but it should obviously not be BANNED either, as that is UNconstitutional really. I also challenge you to name one freedom/liberty of yours that the PA violated.........this should be good.:lol:

Everyone wants "low" taxes.
BS AGAIN. I've heard plenty of leftists proudly exclaim their support for higher taxes so the federal government can keep funding for "the common good" more welfare BS, etc.

And things like Social Security and Medicare ARE "fiscally responsible". Imagine if every sick person in the US showed up at the emergency room? Will conservatives cut that too? Change the law?
SS privatization should @ LEAST BE AN OPTION for us. I can handle my $ better than the fed. can, dunno bout you. As far as health care in general goes, I, like the majority on the right FAVOR REFORM, REAL REFORM, not that bloated, trillion+, authoritarian, UNcostitutional Obamacare BS.

Everyone wants a "strong national defense/security",
Dude WTF do you think you foolin? SERIOUSLY NOW. If that were true on your side, yall woulda supported Iraqi Freedom, water boarding and related interrogation methods, stop bitching bout Afghanistan, etc. Now you just aint tryin.

but if the people are living out of cardboard boxes and old cars, if our jobs are in China, we don't have a strong defense and we certainly don't have "security".
We support NONE of those unfortunate but reversible economic situations, BUT HAVE WE HAD ANOTHER 9/11? Or even any other terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11? NO. Kinda pwns your excuse for a point right there.

What about women? What about taking care of the baby AFTER it's born? Even Sarah Palin cut spending for unwed mothers. You can't just get it born and then walk away.
NO ONE'S advocating that dude, except this super evvviiil GOP that exists in your head. I have said many times that I DO want welfare, just scaled back. I support said programs for new and struggling mothers.
And what about the "women"? You know that during the last election, John McCain was against insurance companies paying for birth control because McCain felt it was a "lifestyle choice" but felt "Viagra" should be paid for because it's a "medical condition". Does that sound fair?
No, and McCain was far from perfect, especially on Abortion. If you really wanna digress and have the Abortion debate, real fine by me, never lost that one.

The only problem I have with that is how does it get "paid for"?
HOWEVER WE GOTTA. EVEN if it means raising taxes. This is a security duty mandated to Congress in our Constitution. Pretty much the ONLY time I'll EVER support raising taxes if for the military/national security as that is priority #1 and obviously, deservedly, takes precedence over EVERYTHING ELSE.
Republicans want a huge military, and money for "border control" and intrusion into women's lives
I already explained why, and the latter is just your own twisted view.
and the "Patriot Act". How do all these things get paid for? You can't grow government and shrink government at the same time.
Like all TRUE, REAL rightists, I ONLY want federal government grown AS MUCH AS IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE IE ONLY ENOUGH TO PAY FOR OUR EVER ADVANCING MILITARY AND BORDER SECURITY NEEDS. We can definitely shrink government from its current massive scope and STILL manage that.

That's the problem with Republican "talking points". As soon as you start "talking", then you realize that complex problems have complex solutions.
All of which I just, again, solved. SIMPLY.

Republicans make everything seem so "simple". That's why they have no solutions and no one can name any Republican success for at least a decade or more.
:lol::lol::lol:

*50 MILLION FORMERLY OPPRESSED MIDDLE EASTERNERS FREED.

*2 NEW, FREE, FAIR, REPUBLICAN ALLIES (IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN) IN THE WOT NOW.
*700,000,000.00 IN CRITICAL AIDS RELIEF TO AFRICA.
*ONE OF THE MOST ETHNICALLY DIVERSE PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS IN OUR HISTORY (GWB'S)
*EXPANDING MEDICAID AND MEDICARE (THERE'S ONE FOR YOUR HYPOCRITE
SELF)


LOL damn yo, you really just walked right in and asked for that one. How can you NOT KNOW BETTER?

The first step towards "debate" is to "learn something" first and yes, it's just that "simple".
I'd really recommend you take your own advice man. I am actually impressed tho, unlike most of your other far left ilk, you've managed to stay off my pwned belt so far.....but if you keep up like this..........
 
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