Hillary won

[ScienceRocks]

YouGov

49% Clinton
39% Trump

Source

yep

 

[TheOldSchool]

YouGov

49% Clinton
39% Trump

Source

yep

That's probably a mirror of what November 8th's election results will look like.

 

[ScienceRocks]

CNN:

Clinton: 52%
Trump: 39%

 

[AceRothstein]

Trump lost three debates in a row to a woman. I bet that really pisses off Deplorable Don.

 

[TemplarKormac]

YouGov, the same polling institution who compares Trump and congress to forms of cancer and the common cockroach. Yeah, that's all satire.

Oh, and don't forget how CNN coached their "focus group" the last time around. Cite more reputable sources.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I'm laughing right now. The View conducted their own twitter poll on the winner of the debate, and Trump is crushing Hillary. You have to understand how liberal that show is. And then understand how their own poll backfired on them.

The View (@TheView) | Twitter

 

[TheOldSchool]

Trump lost three debates in a row to a woman. I bet that really pisses off Deplorable Don.

Deplorable Don. Has a nice ring to it.

 

[AceRothstein]

I'm laughing right now. The View conducted their own twitter poll on the winner of the debate, and Trump is crushing Hillary.

The View (@TheView) | Twitter

A twitter poll. LOL

 

[TheOldSchool]

I'm laughing right now. The View conducted their own twitter poll on the winner of the debate, and Trump is crushing Hillary.

The View (@TheView) | Twitter

A twitter poll. LOL

Drudge has Trump winning by 100%. That means he's going to win in 20 days.

 

[oreo]

YouGov

49% Clinton
39% Trump

Source

yep

CNN comes in at 52% Clinton--39% Trump. That's 3 knockouts in her column.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I'm laughing right now. The View conducted their own twitter poll on the winner of the debate, and Trump is crushing Hillary.

The View (@TheView) | Twitter

A twitter poll. LOL

Yeah, well if Matthew is going to cite biased polling sources, so will I.

 

[ScienceRocks]

LA Times says Hillary won and it was not even close!

We scored the third presidential debate. Hillary Clinton won, and it wasn't even close.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - if she got more votes, den she ought win the `lection...

Clinton being pushed to seek vote recount in 3 states
November 24, 2016 — A group of election lawyers and data experts has asked Hillary Clinton's campaign to call for a recount of the vote totals in three battleground states — Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania — to ensure that a cyberattack was not committed to manipulate the totals.

There is no evidence that the results were hacked or that electronic voting machines were compromised. The Clinton campaign on Wednesday did not respond to a request for comment as to whether it would petition for a recount before the three states' fast-approaching deadlines to ask for one. President-elect Donald Trump won Wisconsin and Pennsylvania by razor-thin margins and has a small lead in Michigan. All three states had been reliably Democratic in recent presidential elections. The group, led by voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, contacted the Clinton campaign this week. That call, which was first reported by New York Magazine, raised the possibility that Clinton may have received fewer votes than expected in some counties that rely on electronic voting machines.

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks in New York, where she conceded her defeat to Republican Donald Trump after the hard-fought presidential election. A group of election lawyers and data experts have asked Clinton’s campaign to call for a recount of the vote totals in three battleground states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, in order to ensure that a cyberattack was not committed to manipulate the totals. There is no evidence that the results were hacked or that electronic voting machines were compromised. The Clinton campaign on Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2016, did not respond to a request for comment as to whether it would petition for a recount before the three states’ fast-approaching deadlines to ask for one.​

But Halderman, in an article posted on Medium on Wednesday, stressed that the group has no evidence of a cyberattack or voting irregularities. He urged that a recount be ordered just to eliminate the possibility. "The only way to know whether a cyberattack changed the result is to closely examine the available physical evidence — paper ballots and voting equipment in critical states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania," Halderman wrote. Recounts, which are often costly and time-intensive efforts, would likely only be initiated if the Clinton camp pushed for one, though Wisconsin independently announced that it would conduct an audit of its vote. A call for a recount, particularly coming on the heels of a fiercely contested and sharply partisan election, would likely be cheered by Democrats but denounced by Republicans eager to focus on governing. A request to the Trump transition team for comment was not immediately returned.

Trump's campaign had long believed that his message of economic populism would resonate in the Rust Belt. He frequently campaigned in Pennsylvania and made a late push in both Wisconsin and Michigan, successfully turning out white working-class voters whom pollsters may have missed. Many pre-election polls showed Clinton with slight leads. While advocating for the recounts, Halderman writes that "the most likely explanation" for Trump's surprise win "is that the polls were systematically wrong." The deadlines for petitioning for a recount in all three states are in the coming days, with Wisconsin's on Friday. Green Party candidate Jill Stein announced a fundraising effort Wednesday to pay for such recounts.

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LA County implementing new digital voting system
Changes are in the works for how we vote in Los Angeles County. In the next few years, casting your ballot will be as simple as pushing a button.​

The focal point of any possible electoral cyberattack presumably would have been electronic voting machines that, whether or not they are connected to the internet, could be infected with malware that could change vote totals. But many of those machines produce a paper record of the vote that could be checked to see if the vote tabulations are accurate. Pennsylvania is considered one of the states most susceptible to hacking because 96 percent of its voting machines have no paper trail. Wisconsin is far less vulnerable because it uses electronic machines with voter-verifiable paper trails in most counties. Michigan is considered the safest of the three because it uses paper ballots. Officials in the three states confirmed that no recounts have been ordered. A spokesman for the U.S. Justice Department says it is not tallying the number of voting complaints to determine whether federal action is warranted.

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Clinton Popular Vote Edge Over Trump Tops 2 Million
November 23, 2016 | WASHINGTON — Democrat Hillary Clinton has now amassed more than a 2-million popular vote lead over U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, who won the White House by winning where it matters, in states with enough electoral votes to become the country's 45th chief executive.

As vote counting continued in some states, Clinton's advantage stood Wednesday at 2,017,563, a figure that could grow because uncounted ballots remain in states where she won, especially in California, the country's biggest state along the Pacific Ocean shoreline. No matter how large it ends up, Clinton's popular vote lead will not change the outcome of the November 8 election. She will become the fifth presidential candidate in U.S. history, and the second in the last 16 years, to win the popular vote but lose the election because of the country's two-century-old, constitutionally mandated Electoral College system of picking its presidents.

President-elect Donald Trump and his former rival Hillary Clinton are seen in a combination photo. Even though Clinton lost the Electoral College vote to Trump, she leads him in the popular vote by 2,017,563 votes, a number that could still grow.​

U.S. presidential elections are essentially individual elections in each of the 50 states and the national capital city, Washington, with the winner in each state getting all of its votes in the Electoral College. Winning candidates need a majority of at least 270 of the 538 electoral votes, with the biggest states holding the most sway in the outcome. Trump won numerous states by relatively small margins, while Clinton, a former U.S. secretary of state who was looking to become the country's first female president, piled up a huge vote count edge in California and New York. That has left her with a popular vote lead nationally, with Trump likely winning the Electoral College vote 306-232 when all the state-by-state results are finalized.

Trump, a billionaire real estate mogul who is now appointing key officials for his new administration, has at various times condemned the use of the Electoral College in picking presidents, while also saying that it is "actually genius in that it brings all states, including the smaller ones, into play." On Tuesday, Trump told New York Times reporters he would "rather do the popular vote" and was "never a fan of the Electoral College until now," through use of which he is now president-elect.

Clinton Popular Vote Edge Over Trump Tops 2 Million

 

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A plot to topple Trump: Millions are hoping Electoral College can deny Trump the presidency
Thursday 24th November, 2016 | WASHINGTON, U.S. - The Electoral College will meet on December 19 to cast their vote for president, and Hillary Clinton's supporters are hoping for a miracle.

It is constitutionally possible for the Electoral College to elect Clinton, although that scenario is highly unlikely. According to reports, a handful of Democratic Electoral College voters have agreed to join an effort to undermine president-elect Donald Trump in the final vote. The voters, who are mostly former Bernie Sanders supporters from Washington state and Colorado, are pushing for other electors to ignore their oaths by voting against Trump. The group is working to lobby their Republican counterparts to also be “faithless electors,” hoping to illustrate a lack of confidence in the entire Electoral College system.

While it would be unlikely to convince 37 Republican electors to change their votes - the number needed to erase Trump's lead among the 538 total electors - an unusually large number of 'faithless electors' who refuse to vote for Trump could undermine the institution itself, ending the body’s 228-year run as the only official constitutional process for electing the president. There are also several petitions doing the rounds. A Change.org petition, signed by more than 4.6 million people, is encouraging members of the Electoral College to cast their votes for Clinton. “Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic,” part of the petition reads. “Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.” Clinton backers have also been calling the Justice Department, demanding that they audit the vote.

Clinton's popular vote lead passes the two million mark Hillary Clinton's vote advantage hit the two million mark on Wednesday morning, according to Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report. As of mid-day Wednesday, Wasserman's spread sheet had Clinton at 64,225,863 votes to Trump's 62,210,612. Much of that lead was generated by California, where Clinton had 3.7 million more votes than Trump in the last totals reported on Tuesday evening. Votes are still being counted in some part of California and other western areas. With the votes unevenly distributed, Trump, however, carried most of the states and prevailed in the Electoral College. And as Clinton's popular vote lead increased, so have calls for abolishment of the Electoral College, which allowed Trump to win the presidency, despite Clinton receiving the most votes nationwide.

This is how the U.S. election system works - Americans do not elect their presidents directly, through a popular vote. Rather, each citizen votes for a slate of electors in the state in which they reside who are pledged to support the winning candidate in that state. In other words, the presidential candidates win all of the electoral votes of each state in which they prevail in the popular votes in that state. The Electoral College, which gives each state a number of electors equal to their representation in Congress, is a system that dates back to the founders of the Constitution. It was intended to keep the largest states from determining the outcome of the presidential election and ensure that smaller, more rural states had power in elections. Trump won 306 Electoral College votes to Clinton's 232 by winning key swing states like Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

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Why is Donald Trump avoiding intelligence briefings on national security threats and challenges?
Friday 25th November, 2016 - Officials at the White House and Pentagon are a worried lot.

According to intelligence sources, president-elect Donald Trump has received two classified intelligence briefings since his dramatic election victory more than two weeks back, a frequency that is remarkably lower than that of his predecessors. The meetings are aimed at getting him up to speed with U.S. national security concerns and world affairs. Reports suggest that since his win, he has attended an initial briefing that he got within days of his victory and a second one that he received on Tuesday in New York, before leaving for Florida for the Thanksgiving holiday. On the other hand, Vice President-elect Mike Pence has taken out time for intelligence briefings almost every day since the election, officials confirmed.

The President’s Daily Brief is a document designed to provide a summary of key security developments and insights from all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, as well as an update on covert programs being run overseas by the CIA. It is typically delivered each morning by intelligence analysts selected because of their experience and expertise for the prestigious job. Intelligence sources verify that intelligence analysts have been ready to give Trump daily briefings on global developments and security threats but Trump has turned the briefings down to focus on meetings with potential cabinet members, media executives and business associates. A senior U.S. official who gets the same briefings President Obama receives every day stated that the president-elect has "a lot of catching up to do," and suggested the briefings could help.

The report follows concerns from within Washington that the president-elect, who has never held a public office before, is unprepared for the gravity of daily Oval Office duties. Throughout his presidential candidate journey, Donald Trump made it obvious that he lacks incisive knowledge regarding foreign policies that drew criticism even from Republicans, prompting a number of GOP national security experts to speak out against him and sign letters denouncing him.

Michael Morell, former deputy CIA director had said that the last three presidents-elect made use of the intelligence briefings offered "to literally study the national security issues that they would be facing and the world leaders with whom they would be interacting with as president." “The president-elect is missing out on a golden opportunity to learn about the national security threats and challenges facing our nation,” stated Morell, who supported Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. “Knowledge that would be extremely valuable to have when he takes the oath of office and when he steps into the Situation Room for the first time,” he added.

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