Hey Rightwingers: why should I believe Trump even has a basic understanding of the following issues:

[TemplarKormac]

1) Foreign policy; specifically the complex nature of the Middle East

2) Economics (not the same as business although the argument could easily be made he doesn't understand business either)

3) How the US government even works

4) Immigration. Him coming up with the mentally lazy solution of deporting all illegals says nothing about his knowledge of statistics or the current law of it in this country.

Now keep in mind that regardless of what you think of the character of Obama or Hillary, nothing changes the fact that their education backgrounds are in law and public policy. That gives us evidence of their knowledge of these subjects.

Quite honestly I don't give a fuck what you believe or not. You lost asshole, deal with it.

Lol you're just butthurt you can't justify winning.

Looking at everything Hillary has done justifies Trump's win pretty easily.

See, that's what's pathetic about you voting for Trump. Your only justification for his election is because of Hillary. You aren't even examining Trump and it's dumb.

There go your "adult critical thinking skills" again.

She already told you she's 15. She didn't vote for anyone. So you basically can't attack her for voting for Trump. She's immune to your genetic arguments.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

See, that's what's pathetic about you voting for Trump. Your only justification for his election is because of Hillary. You aren't even examining Trump and it's dumb.

I'm 15, I voted for nobody.

There are no positives about Trump other than the fact that he's not a massively corrupt policy and pardon-selling Establishment shill who compromised classified information out of either sheer stupidity or carelessness. Hillary is even worse than a candidate with no positives.

15 .. wow .

She's articulate and knowledgable for her age but unfortunately she still lacks adult critical thinking skills.

Her thinking skills are phenomenal. She puts MANY adults to shame.

I'm thinking she's an, "old soul"..

Maybe she'll take the quiz for fun..... Are You An Old Soul? Take the Test! ⋆ LonerWolf

 

[Billy000]

Deaths? There is no evidence Hillary caused anyone's deaths. Republicans did 7 investigations on Benghazi and they turned up nothing to convict her with. Now why is that?

That's not true at all. You must have taken the media's word for it instead of actually reading the Benghazi report... as they didn't bother reading it, either. It detailed conflicting orders and incompetence in the State Department and highest levels of government. There's also the fact that she refused them extra security, which is a direct cause of the deaths of those Americans. I also recall her blaming a video, despite knowing it wasn't the reason.

You haven't explained why the 7 republican investigations on the matter didn't find any legal wrong doing on Hillary's part.

I DID explain at least one of the instances. You wouldn't happen to have listened to Comie's report and/or speeches on the matters, would you? As far as the private server is concerned, he granted immunity and made deals unheard of in the history of the FBI. If you like, I have compiled a list of all of the laws Hillary broke in the usage of her private server.

The fact is that Comie was appointed by Bush, who is all kinds of buddy buddy with the Clinton crime family. Which goes to show that Establishment servants take care of each other... when it benefits them.

See now you're confusing her Benghazi scandal with her email scandal. Those are two different issues.

I'm not confusing anything, you mentioned seven FBI investigations, one of which I had already addressed, so I moved on to another. Mostly because you hadn't provided any counterpoint to it.

Do you have any solid explanation as to why she didn't provide extra security, or how it's not her fault the state department was providing conflicting orders? If not, the segue is totally justified.

I can give you solid evidence that republicans cut funding to embassy security years prior. Oh and republicans didn't spend 7 investigations on the email scandal. They only did for Benghazi.

 

[Lumpy 1]

I'm 15, I voted for nobody.

There are no positives about Trump other than the fact that he's not a massively corrupt policy and pardon-selling Establishment shill who compromised classified information out of either sheer stupidity or carelessness. Hillary is even worse than a candidate with no positives.

15 .. wow .

She's articulate and knowledgable for her age but unfortunately she still lacks adult critical thinking skills.

Her thinking skills are phenomenal. She puts MANY adults to shame.

I'm thinking she's an, "old soul"..

Maybe she'll take the quiz for fun..... Are You An Old Soul? Take the Test! ⋆ LonerWolf

I got 82 but I'm already old...

 

[Pumpkin Row]

That's not true at all. You must have taken the media's word for it instead of actually reading the Benghazi report... as they didn't bother reading it, either. It detailed conflicting orders and incompetence in the State Department and highest levels of government. There's also the fact that she refused them extra security, which is a direct cause of the deaths of those Americans. I also recall her blaming a video, despite knowing it wasn't the reason.

You haven't explained why the 7 republican investigations on the matter didn't find any legal wrong doing on Hillary's part.

I DID explain at least one of the instances. You wouldn't happen to have listened to Comie's report and/or speeches on the matters, would you? As far as the private server is concerned, he granted immunity and made deals unheard of in the history of the FBI. If you like, I have compiled a list of all of the laws Hillary broke in the usage of her private server.

The fact is that Comie was appointed by Bush, who is all kinds of buddy buddy with the Clinton crime family. Which goes to show that Establishment servants take care of each other... when it benefits them.

See now you're confusing her Benghazi scandal with her email scandal. Those are two different issues.

I'm not confusing anything, you mentioned seven FBI investigations, one of which I had already addressed, so I moved on to another. Mostly because you hadn't provided any counterpoint to it.

Do you have any solid explanation as to why she didn't provide extra security, or how it's not her fault the state department was providing conflicting orders? If not, the segue is totally justified.

I can give you solid evidence that republicans cut funding to embassy security years prior. Oh and republicans didn't spend 7 investigations on the email scandal. They only did for Benghazi.

And pulling funding has what to do with Hillary not providing the extra security when asked?

I already knew they didn't spend seven investigations on the email scandal, but how exactly does that excuse her actions in EITHER scandal? You've spent the entire thread ignoring my points and providing no counter points.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I can give you solid evidence that republicans cut funding to embassy security years prior.

Hey genius

Ronan Farrow says inadequate security funding from Congress leads to tragedies like Benghazi

 

[Billy000]

You haven't explained why the 7 republican investigations on the matter didn't find any legal wrong doing on Hillary's part.

I DID explain at least one of the instances. You wouldn't happen to have listened to Comie's report and/or speeches on the matters, would you? As far as the private server is concerned, he granted immunity and made deals unheard of in the history of the FBI. If you like, I have compiled a list of all of the laws Hillary broke in the usage of her private server.

The fact is that Comie was appointed by Bush, who is all kinds of buddy buddy with the Clinton crime family. Which goes to show that Establishment servants take care of each other... when it benefits them.

See now you're confusing her Benghazi scandal with her email scandal. Those are two different issues.

I'm not confusing anything, you mentioned seven FBI investigations, one of which I had already addressed, so I moved on to another. Mostly because you hadn't provided any counterpoint to it.

Do you have any solid explanation as to why she didn't provide extra security, or how it's not her fault the state department was providing conflicting orders? If not, the segue is totally justified.

I can give you solid evidence that republicans cut funding to embassy security years prior. Oh and republicans didn't spend 7 investigations on the email scandal. They only did for Benghazi.

And pulling funding has what to do with Hillary not providing the extra security when asked?

I already knew they didn't spend seven investigations on the email scandal, but how exactly does that excuse her actions in EITHER scandal? You've spent the entire thread ignoring my points and providing no counter points.

Lol once again, I can't give you counter arguments if you don't give me specifics. That part is important.

 

[OKTexas]

I also supported Limberbutt McCubbins, Gary Johnson, and Evan McMullin. The basic requirement for being better than Hillary was lacking her negative qualities at the very least to the degree she had them. She was literally the worst candidate available, and even the regressive whackjobs, Jill and Bernie, were worlds better than her.

Yes? Which of those are Federal level crimes or resulted in deaths? How many times did he endanger classified information on a whim?

Deaths? There is no evidence Hillary caused anyone's deaths. Republicans did 7 investigations on Benghazi and they turned up nothing to convict her with. Now why is that?

That's not true at all. You must have taken the media's word for it instead of actually reading the Benghazi report... as they didn't bother reading it, either. It detailed conflicting orders and incompetence in the State Department and highest levels of government. There's also the fact that she refused them extra security, which is a direct cause of the deaths of those Americans. I also recall her blaming a video, despite knowing it wasn't the reason.

You haven't explained why the 7 republican investigations on the matter didn't find any legal wrong doing on Hillary's part.

I DID explain at least one of the instances. You wouldn't happen to have listened to Comie's report and/or speeches on the matters, would you? As far as the private server is concerned, he granted immunity and made deals unheard of in the history of the FBI. If you like, I have compiled a list of all of the laws Hillary broke in the usage of her private server.

The fact is that Comie was appointed by Bush, who is all kinds of buddy buddy with the Clinton crime family. Which goes to show that Establishment servants take care of each other... when it benefits them.

See now you're confusing her Benghazi scandal with her email scandal. Those are two different issues.

No, it all goes to the bitches incompetence.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Oh, you just described all of Hillary's policies. "Vague" would be the perfect description. It would increase illegal immigration because it shows them that we have leaders worthless enough not to want them out, despite the fact that they broke the law to get here.

No, you fail to see it has no strengths and is a financial disaster. It hasn't helped the economy in any way, shape, or form, and has absolutely no positives to speak of.

Oh, cute, another Democrat used more Executive orders. That helps Obama's case how exactly? He still violated the Constitution 64 times, and has done everything he can to bypass the other branches of government to tip the balance of powers.

Lol if you don't offer any specific examples, you're just rambling. There's nothing compelling about what you're saying if you don't offer objective information to back it up

Tell me, how many did she offer specifics on? I happened to have wasted my time watching every debate and seem to recall the answer being... never. You know, I also recall Obama attempting to violate the Constitution by using Executive Order to grant amnesty to some millions(?) of illegals.

Are you in some sort of hurry? I notice you keep ignoring all but the first sentence of two of my posts. That's rather rude, I'm trying to have a meaningful discussion with you.

Why are you deflecting to her vagueness in policy without explaining why? What specific information in them reflects ignorance? How about Obama? What specifics do you have to offer on him?

I haven't deflected at all. I pointed out that the lack of specifics were due to her lack of specifics, which is a legitimate grievance. If I told you that I'd like to "Walk over yonder hill" while standing in the dead center of three, and my mother asked you where I went, how would you give her specifics as to my whereabouts? If her policies were so specific, why don't you show me her immigration plans? If my lack of specifics is an issue here, then you must have policies to show me.

If I'm pointing out the their non-specific policies are an issue and display ignorance, then that would be because the KEY component within them is the main issue. That being amnesty in any form. Whether it's a path to citizenship or instant blanket amnesty, then that would be STILL be allowing said illegals to cut in line, in front of EVERYONE that was already coming here LEGALLY, which would be PUNISHING following the rules of the system.

I'd ALSO like to point out that every time I've made a point, you've ignored it and replied with 1-2 sentences, rather than addressing any specific parts of my post, AND you have yet to DENY or provide a counterpoint to any of it.

Lol okay again let me repeat the main point I have been trying to say. You are giving me generalIzations and broad assumptions about Hillary without being specific. What evidence is their to your claims? What language in her proposals suggest they are vague or ignorant. Without providing these specific details, there's nothing for me to dispute in your argument.

First, I already pointed out that Obama attempted to grant amnesty, which was shot down recently by the Supreme Court.

Hillary Clinton on immigration reform
If you read through this, you can also see Hillary wanted to follow in his footsteps. You can also see there are literally no specifics, just vague descriptions.

I'm not making assumptions, I'm telling you what was said.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

15 .. wow .

She's articulate and knowledgable for her age but unfortunately she still lacks adult critical thinking skills.

Her thinking skills are phenomenal. She puts MANY adults to shame.

I'm thinking she's an, "old soul"..

Maybe she'll take the quiz for fun..... Are You An Old Soul? Take the Test! ⋆ LonerWolf

I got 82 but I'm already old...

It just means regardless of your age, you're still wise beyond your years~

 

[TemplarKormac]

Lol once again, I can't give you counter arguments if you don't give me specifics.

Here, have another!

Barbara Boxer’s claim that GOP budgets hampered Benghazi security

 

[JoeMoma]

I hope I live long enough to vote for Pumkin Row to be the first female president.

 

[OKTexas]

That's not true at all. You must have taken the media's word for it instead of actually reading the Benghazi report... as they didn't bother reading it, either. It detailed conflicting orders and incompetence in the State Department and highest levels of government. There's also the fact that she refused them extra security, which is a direct cause of the deaths of those Americans. I also recall her blaming a video, despite knowing it wasn't the reason.

You haven't explained why the 7 republican investigations on the matter didn't find any legal wrong doing on Hillary's part.

I DID explain at least one of the instances. You wouldn't happen to have listened to Comie's report and/or speeches on the matters, would you? As far as the private server is concerned, he granted immunity and made deals unheard of in the history of the FBI. If you like, I have compiled a list of all of the laws Hillary broke in the usage of her private server.

The fact is that Comie was appointed by Bush, who is all kinds of buddy buddy with the Clinton crime family. Which goes to show that Establishment servants take care of each other... when it benefits them.

See now you're confusing her Benghazi scandal with her email scandal. Those are two different issues.

I'm not confusing anything, you mentioned seven FBI investigations, one of which I had already addressed, so I moved on to another. Mostly because you hadn't provided any counterpoint to it.

Do you have any solid explanation as to why she didn't provide extra security, or how it's not her fault the state department was providing conflicting orders? If not, the segue is totally justified.

I can give you solid evidence that republicans cut funding to embassy security years prior. Oh and republicans didn't spend 7 investigations on the email scandal. They only did for Benghazi.

And I can provide congressional testimony form Charlene Lamb, the security specialist for Benghazi, that funding had no bearing on the security decisions.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I hope I live long enough to vote for Pumkin Row to be the first female president.

Here here!

 

[Pumpkin Row]

I hope I live long enough to vote for Pumkin Row to be the first female president.

While I have considered going into politics, sadly, I wasn't born in the United States. I'd have to get the Establishment behind me to ever get into the presidential seat~

 

[Billy000]

Lol if you don't offer any specific examples, you're just rambling. There's nothing compelling about what you're saying if you don't offer objective information to back it up

Tell me, how many did she offer specifics on? I happened to have wasted my time watching every debate and seem to recall the answer being... never. You know, I also recall Obama attempting to violate the Constitution by using Executive Order to grant amnesty to some millions(?) of illegals.

Are you in some sort of hurry? I notice you keep ignoring all but the first sentence of two of my posts. That's rather rude, I'm trying to have a meaningful discussion with you.

Why are you deflecting to her vagueness in policy without explaining why? What specific information in them reflects ignorance? How about Obama? What specifics do you have to offer on him?

I haven't deflected at all. I pointed out that the lack of specifics were due to her lack of specifics, which is a legitimate grievance. If I told you that I'd like to "Walk over yonder hill" while standing in the dead center of three, and my mother asked you where I went, how would you give her specifics as to my whereabouts? If her policies were so specific, why don't you show me her immigration plans? If my lack of specifics is an issue here, then you must have policies to show me.

If I'm pointing out the their non-specific policies are an issue and display ignorance, then that would be because the KEY component within them is the main issue. That being amnesty in any form. Whether it's a path to citizenship or instant blanket amnesty, then that would be STILL be allowing said illegals to cut in line, in front of EVERYONE that was already coming here LEGALLY, which would be PUNISHING following the rules of the system.

I'd ALSO like to point out that every time I've made a point, you've ignored it and replied with 1-2 sentences, rather than addressing any specific parts of my post, AND you have yet to DENY or provide a counterpoint to any of it.

Lol okay again let me repeat the main point I have been trying to say. You are giving me generalIzations and broad assumptions about Hillary without being specific. What evidence is their to your claims? What language in her proposals suggest they are vague or ignorant. Without providing these specific details, there's nothing for me to dispute in your argument.

First, I already pointed out that Obama attempted to grant amnesty, which was shot down recently by the Supreme Court.

Hillary Clinton on immigration reform
If you read through this, you can also see Hillary wanted to follow in his footsteps. You can also see there are literally no specifics, just vague descriptions.

I'm not making assumptions, I'm telling you what was said.

Well no you haven't broken down any specifics about either one of their policies. For Obama, What was the SC case ruling regarding his immigration plan?

 

[TemplarKormac]

1) Foreign policy; specifically the complex nature of the Middle East

Eh, did you not hear about Mike Flynn? He kinda knows a thing or two about foreign affairs. That's why Trump wants him to be NSA.

2) Economics (not the same as business although the argument could easily be made he doesn't understand business either)

Given that he's at least $10 billion richer than you, I do believe he has a firm grasp on business and economics. Whereas you on the other hand, seem to think you know everything.

3) How the US government even works

He should be quite familiar, because the US government runs structurally similar to a corporation.

4) Immigration. Him coming up with the mentally lazy solution of deporting all illegals says nothing about his knowledge of statistics or the current law of it in this country.

He wants to enforce the law. Your clear lack of regard for the law is showing, Billy. I'm sure the amnesty argument is a pretty mentally lazy solution in and of itself.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Now keep in mind that regardless of what you think of the character of Obama or Hillary, nothing changes the fact that their education backgrounds are in law and public policy.

Well, that explains the shitty condition our government is in right now.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Tell me, how many did she offer specifics on? I happened to have wasted my time watching every debate and seem to recall the answer being... never. You know, I also recall Obama attempting to violate the Constitution by using Executive Order to grant amnesty to some millions(?) of illegals.

Are you in some sort of hurry? I notice you keep ignoring all but the first sentence of two of my posts. That's rather rude, I'm trying to have a meaningful discussion with you.

Why are you deflecting to her vagueness in policy without explaining why? What specific information in them reflects ignorance? How about Obama? What specifics do you have to offer on him?

I haven't deflected at all. I pointed out that the lack of specifics were due to her lack of specifics, which is a legitimate grievance. If I told you that I'd like to "Walk over yonder hill" while standing in the dead center of three, and my mother asked you where I went, how would you give her specifics as to my whereabouts? If her policies were so specific, why don't you show me her immigration plans? If my lack of specifics is an issue here, then you must have policies to show me.

If I'm pointing out the their non-specific policies are an issue and display ignorance, then that would be because the KEY component within them is the main issue. That being amnesty in any form. Whether it's a path to citizenship or instant blanket amnesty, then that would be STILL be allowing said illegals to cut in line, in front of EVERYONE that was already coming here LEGALLY, which would be PUNISHING following the rules of the system.

I'd ALSO like to point out that every time I've made a point, you've ignored it and replied with 1-2 sentences, rather than addressing any specific parts of my post, AND you have yet to DENY or provide a counterpoint to any of it.

Lol okay again let me repeat the main point I have been trying to say. You are giving me generalIzations and broad assumptions about Hillary without being specific. What evidence is their to your claims? What language in her proposals suggest they are vague or ignorant. Without providing these specific details, there's nothing for me to dispute in your argument.

First, I already pointed out that Obama attempted to grant amnesty, which was shot down recently by the Supreme Court.

Hillary Clinton on immigration reform
If you read through this, you can also see Hillary wanted to follow in his footsteps. You can also see there are literally no specifics, just vague descriptions.

I'm not making assumptions, I'm telling you what was said.

Well no you haven't broken down any specifics about either one of their policies. For Obama, What was the SC case ruling regarding his immigration plan?

Did you not read the link? She has no specifics to break down. You really aren't reading my posts.

The Supreme Court’s Rebuke to Obama’s Amnesty
BREAKING: Obama's Executive Action on Illegal Immigration Just Took A Hit
Obama's immigration plan dealt big blow by Supreme Court - CNNPolitics.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

So you support Trump even though he has no merit?

Whether he has any merit is not up for you to decide, and most certainly not up to you to dictate whether he has any merit to others.