He’s The Same Candidate You Loved Four Years Ago

[jc456]

Define “rich” and “fair share”. Invariably, both definitions and scopes always include The Middle Class.

I'd be happy to use the definitions that were there before Reagan screwed up the tax code.

We don't have a "Middle Class" anymore you stupid fuck. The Republicans destroyed it.

surprise, you didn't address the question you were asked. define rich and fair share. I know, you won't. you're a puppet.

 

[jc456]

Define “rich” and “fair share”. Invariably, both definitions and scopes always include The Middle Class.

I'd be happy to use the definitions that were there before Reagan screwed up the tax code.

We don't have a "Middle Class" anymore you stupid fuck. The Republicans destroyed it.

Your emphasis on name calling and lack of empirical and factual data and validation to back your positions is very telling. If-in your view- a Middle Class no longer exists, what policies would restore it or, would you even want a Middle Class?

biden wants to tax them. hahahahahahahahahahahaha. A guy in here bitching about taxes is in love with a guy that wants to raise them more. hahahahahahahahahahahaha. We can't fix that kind of stupid.

 

[toobfreak]

Wow! Bert! Seven reactions and not one of them positive! I might have to slate you as the most TDS-bullshiter-disabled person here yet! It's like you got a TDS flesh-eating bacteria on the brain.

The adoration and blind loyalty of the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics has never wavered, regardless of his obvious lies and incompetence.

You just make me want to vote for him even more! Tell us when your devotion to Obama ever wavered during all his lies and incompetence?

In 2016, disappointed by eight years of a growing economy during President Obama

Obama had a growing economy the last six months of his last year. He helped ruin the economy as a democrat senator in the first place.

which were scandal-free

Obama was scandal free? His list of scandals was among the longest in history, it takes several feet of screen space just to try to LIST the major ones.

centrists were convinced the sun shone out the candidate trump’s a$$.

So everyone, conservative and centrist alike, everyone likes Trump except you prune-faced sissy-boy whiny-bitch democrats.

Like the impeached president trump’s devoted fanatics

Impeached only means charged. Nancy and Adam accused but didn't have the moxy to make the charges stick. Ooops. You should plan better.

during three years of racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, pro-Nazi hate speech

The impeached president trump, has, indeed, been everything progressives expected, an incompetent, corrupt, Nazi-loving racist. But unlike centrists, progressives knew it before he announced he would run for the highest office, before he was the star of a “reality” show, before he was an inept casino owner...

Yep, you had Trump pegged since when he was only eleven years old.

Yes, centrists are finally opening their eyes to the truth about the impeached president trump. Unfortunately, centrists’ votes made Biden the Democrats’ presidential nominee, and their plan now is to drive more nails into the nation’s coffin by electing Status Quo Joe POTUS.

Yep, the nation is wise to cumsuckers like you.

There Is No Plan. There Is No Second-Term Agenda.

You know the plan. During Trump's second four years, we shift out of 1st gear and make life truly hell on earth for you. Pedal to the metal.

 

[JoeB131]

Your emphasis on name calling and lack of empirical and factual data and validation to back your positions is very telling. If-in your view- a Middle Class no longer exists, what policies would restore it or, would you even want a Middle Class?

Bring back unions.
Stronger workers rights.

That would bring back a middle class.

 

[basquebromance]

under Kennedy, we went to the moon. under Trump, we cant even go to Europe

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

Your emphasis on name calling and lack of empirical and factual data and validation to back your positions is very telling. If-in your view- a Middle Class no longer exists, what policies would restore it or, would you even want a Middle Class?

Bring back unions.
Stronger workers rights.

That would bring back a middle class.

The only thing that would do is shutter more businesses as they cannot afford the high cost of labor now as it is. Businesses don't exist to provide jobs, wages or benefits. They exist for one purpose only, profit!

 

[hadit]

Your emphasis on name calling and lack of empirical and factual data and validation to back your positions is very telling. If-in your view- a Middle Class no longer exists, what policies would restore it or, would you even want a Middle Class?

Bring back unions.
Stronger workers rights.

That would bring back a middle class.

Kind of hard to do when people don't want them and realize they can do better without them.

 

[JoeB131]

The only thing that would do is shutter more businesses as they cannot afford the high cost of labor now as it is. Businesses don't exist to provide jobs, wages or benefits. They exist for one purpose only, profit!

You know, we keep hearing that shit from the right, and we keep seeing those middle class jobs vanish.

Here's the reality. We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was unionized and the rich paid their fair share.

 

[hadit]

The only thing that would do is shutter more businesses as they cannot afford the high cost of labor now as it is. Businesses don't exist to provide jobs, wages or benefits. They exist for one purpose only, profit!

You know, we keep hearing that shit from the right, and we keep seeing those middle class jobs vanish.

Here's the reality. We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was unionized and the rich paid their fair share.

Great, now all we need is a world wide war that decimates most of the nations that could compete with us and leaves us relatively unscathed. You do know, don't you, that nobody paid those high rates because they had so many more loopholes than we do now to reduce their liability? One thing Reagan did was eliminate most of those loopholes. But you knew that and chose to ignore it, right?

 

[LeftofLeft]

The only thing that would do is shutter more businesses as they cannot afford the high cost of labor now as it is. Businesses don't exist to provide jobs, wages or benefits. They exist for one purpose only, profit!

You know, we keep hearing that shit from the right, and we keep seeing those middle class jobs vanish.

Here's the reality. We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was unionized and the rich paid their fair share.

Your emphasis on name calling and lack of empirical and factual data and validation to back your positions is very telling. If-in your view- a Middle Class no longer exists, what policies would restore it or, would you even want a Middle Class?

Bring back unions.
Stronger workers rights.

That would bring back a middle class.

Back when we were a creditor Nation, not a debtor nation. Also, way before we had the greatest expansion of social welfare were people ended up planning their lives cradle to grave supported by Mr. and Mrs. US Taxpayer.

Think!!!

 

[BorisTheAnimal]

The only thing that would do is shutter more businesses as they cannot afford the high cost of labor now as it is. Businesses don't exist to provide jobs, wages or benefits. They exist for one purpose only, profit!

You know, we keep hearing that shit from the right, and we keep seeing those middle class jobs vanish.

Here's the reality. We had our greatest prosperity when the workforce was unionized and the rich paid their fair share.

Hey shit for brains, we were the ONLY game in town, so we could soak the rich for everything they got. But you, as a Commie scumbag would love nothing more than to ELIMINATE the evuul rich for everything they got, just to fund the bloated Federal Government.

 

[JoeB131]

Great, now all we need is a world wide war that decimates most of the nations that could compete with us and leaves us relatively unscathed. You do know, don't you, that nobody paid those high rates because they had so many more loopholes than we do now to reduce their liability? One thing Reagan did was eliminate most of those loopholes. But you knew that and chose to ignore it, right?

THose 'loopholes" were all things that provided jobs

Here's what the end result of Reagan's tax cuts were. The wealth shifted from the rest of us to the One Percent.

Now, it's a funny thing you mention those "other nations'. You see, what happened there was that after that war, the New Dealers who rebuilt our economy went to Germany and Japan and the other defeated nations and helped rebuild their economies. They put in the kinds of reforms the REpublicans/Conservative Southerners would never go along with here.

So big surprise, those countries overtook us in the 1970's.

 

[JoeB131]

Hey shit for brains, we were the ONLY game in town, so we could soak the rich for everything they got. But you, as a Commie scumbag would love nothing more than to ELIMINATE the evuul rich for everything they got, just to fund the bloated Federal Government.

The Capitalist is a parasite who has convinced the stupid he is a vital organ. You are obviously stupid.

 

[hadit]

Great, now all we need is a world wide war that decimates most of the nations that could compete with us and leaves us relatively unscathed. You do know, don't you, that nobody paid those high rates because they had so many more loopholes than we do now to reduce their liability? One thing Reagan did was eliminate most of those loopholes. But you knew that and chose to ignore it, right?

THose 'loopholes" were all things that provided jobs

Here's what the end result of Reagan's tax cuts were. The wealth shifted from the rest of us to the One Percent.

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Now, it's a funny thing you mention those "other nations'. You see, what happened there was that after that war, the New Dealers who rebuilt our economy went to Germany and Japan and the other defeated nations and helped rebuild their economies. They put in the kinds of reforms the REpublicans/Conservative Southerners would never go along with here.

So big surprise, those countries overtook us in the 1970's.

Interesting that you should admit allowing the wealthy to keep and use more of their own money provides more jobs. So bring back the loopholes. And, because those other countries had their industrial bases destroyed, we had all the work in the world we wanted to do. Everyone needed our output because they didn't have any of their own, but once they rebuilt their bases, they were able to overtake the less nimble, heavily taxed and regulated, union burdened American industrial system. So you see, you taking just one factor and insisting it alone drives the whole is as useful as a blind man thinking he can describe an elephant after grabbing its trunk.

 

[hadit]

Hey shit for brains, we were the ONLY game in town, so we could soak the rich for everything they got. But you, as a Commie scumbag would love nothing more than to ELIMINATE the evuul rich for everything they got, just to fund the bloated Federal Government.

The Capitalist is a parasite who has convinced the stupid he is a vital organ. You are obviously stupid.

He has something everyone else needs, CAPITAL. Kind of hard to start and expand those EVUL businesses that employ people without it. Funny that you think someone who contributes is a parasite.

 

[JoeB131]

Interesting that you should admit allowing the wealthy to keep and use more of their own money provides more jobs. So bring back the loopholes.

Sure, make them pay their fair share, confiscatory rates unless they are doing something productive with that money.

Or we could just take everything they have, and dump them into a mass grave. I'm good with either.

And, because those other countries had their industrial bases destroyed, we had all the work in the world we wanted to do. Everyone needed our output because they didn't have any of their own, but once they rebuilt their bases, they were able to overtake the less nimble, heavily taxed and regulated, union burdened American industrial system.

That argument only works if they were Ayn Randian paradises of Objectivism. They weren't. They had STRONGER unions. German and Japanese unions have a say in who the CEO is. They have stronger regulations.

He has something everyone else needs, CAPITAL. Kind of hard to start and expand those EVUL businesses that employ people without it. Funny that you think someone who contributes is a parasite.

Okay, we take his capital and invest it better. Again, we can do just fine without capitalists.

 

[hadit]

Interesting that you should admit allowing the wealthy to keep and use more of their own money provides more jobs. So bring back the loopholes.

Sure, make them pay their fair share, confiscatory rates unless they are doing something productive with that money.

Or we could just take everything they have, and dump them into a mass grave. I'm good with either.

And, because those other countries had their industrial bases destroyed, we had all the work in the world we wanted to do. Everyone needed our output because they didn't have any of their own, but once they rebuilt their bases, they were able to overtake the less nimble, heavily taxed and regulated, union burdened American industrial system.

That argument only works if they were Ayn Randian paradises of Objectivism. They weren't. They had STRONGER unions. German and Japanese unions have a say in who the CEO is. They have stronger regulations.

He has something everyone else needs, CAPITAL. Kind of hard to start and expand those EVUL businesses that employ people without it. Funny that you think someone who contributes is a parasite.

Okay, we take his capital and invest it better. Again, we can do just fine without capitalists.

What a maroon. There's a reason why capitalists have capital, and that's because they're good at accumulating it. Sure, take everything away from the wealthy, destroy all capitalists. Heck, mankind has never done anything like that before, what could possibly go wrong?

Psssst, just don't study 20th century history too closely.

 

[JoeB131]

What a maroon. There's a reason why capitalists have capital, and that's because they're good at accumulating it.

So are thieves... what's your point.

Sure, take everything away from the wealthy, destroy all capitalists. Heck, mankind has never done anything like that before, what could possibly go wrong?

Psssst, just don't study 20th century history too closely.

The countries that got rid of their capitalists were better off. the USSR was certainly more powerful and wealthier than Tsarist Russia was. the PRC is certainly more affluent than the hot mess Cash-My-Check ruled over.

 

[hadit]

What a maroon. There's a reason why capitalists have capital, and that's because they're good at accumulating it.

So are thieves... what's your point.

That if you want a country to have available capital, you let the people best at accumulating it perform that task. The difference is, capitalists who try to do it illegally become thieves and are prosecuted. You know that, right?

Sure, take everything away from the wealthy, destroy all capitalists. Heck, mankind has never done anything like that before, what could possibly go wrong?

Psssst, just don't study 20th century history too closely.

The countries that got rid of their capitalists were better off. the USSR was certainly more powerful and wealthier than Tsarist Russia was. the PRC is certainly more affluent than the hot mess Cash-My-Check ruled over.

Wow, there are 100 million people who would disagree with the idea that their countries were better off after they got rid of their capitalists, if they were alive to say so. See, here's where your education fails you. You got all the trendy buzz words from your tweed wearing, dope smoking, living in a van down by the river dweebs that you admired so much when you were a kid, but they failed to inform you that the only way a command and control economy lasts more than a few years without collapse is through force, and as we have seen, that force results in a lot of otherwise unnecessary death.

Tell us about how Venezuela became so much better off, richer and more prosperous when they got rid of their capitalists. Tell us about North Korea and Cuba.

 

[JoeB131]

Back when we were a creditor Nation, not a debtor nation. Also, way before we had the greatest expansion of social welfare were people ended up planning their lives cradle to grave supported by Mr. and Mrs. US Taxpayer.

Think!!!

Again, when you stupid white people give up your white people welfare, we can talk.

But one more time, the European nations have more generous welfare than we have, they have stronger unions and they tax the shito ut of their rich.