If his intentions were off because of mental illness or PTSD,
that is different if he did not have normal control how he reacted.
If their intentions were off because of the effects of "drug use by choice"
on the adolescent brain, that is something that could be helped.
At that point, they both seem equally off. They both needed help,
didn't get it in time, and everyone paid the price for it.
Regardless how we judge either side, the level of mental instability
is where intervention was needed to prevent bad decisions from going any further.
After bad decisions are made, everything else is "after the fact."
Anything could go wrong, especially when dealing with mental instability.
This is really a wake up call, not to take those things for granted.
But to make sure everyone gets help who has issues like this,
and not wait for things to go wrong to seek help. We take too much for granted.
Until we see cases like this and wonder "why couldn't this be prevented."
Lot of really good points here.
There are no heroes and there are no winners here.
The question is, how can we get people accepting of being victims and not mind so much?
Hi Katz: In working for years to address this issue, I find it goes deeper than I thought.
I thought with education, training and experience, anyone could grow to appreciate the amount of work and investment it takes to exercise equal ownership.
Now I find it isn't enough to own your own home, nonprofit, business or school.
Some people have been victimized so much, and so used to being powerless,
I think they would have to own their own CITY or township and not pay taxes except to their own entity, BEFORE they would trust they would not "lose the property anyway."
They would still need on-hands training to manage the whole system of resources going in, out and around to develop the community, in order to experience the full concept before they would feel "EQUAL" and NOT under the control of others.
But they would not even trust enough to invest in setting up such a program
for training UNLESS they own the land as a city it is on, so it is not under any
other controlling interest or govt that could just change the laws to claim taxes
are owed and take it away.
This is truly disturbing to discover.
But it explains why so many people will NOT invest in ownership of homes and businesses.
They are so used to and afraid of "government" controlling everything anyway,
they just assume the government is the default, so they keep trying to use
their party politics to have some say in this government bureaucracy controlling everything.
To be equal and free, they'd have to be completely independent and
own everything and manage it themselves to understand what that even means.
And that's not even offered as a choice!
They are even too afraid to push for this, but are waiting for govt to give it to them.
So that's why it isn't happening.
Very sad and sick.
I thought I could just organize teams to set up campuses and district for teaching these skills, and it would solve the problem with unequal education and access.
But NOW I find that isn't even good enough. People might invest that much work if they were guaranteed they run the district themselves, outside any other govt entity. But no one I know is willing to invest if it means competing with local govt over taxes and control.
It would have to be completely free of that, or people are too scared. I only met 1-2 people who were pushing like me to organize local land ownership and property management, both Black women leaders, running into the same "fear of property ownership" because of
govt controls.
Once people feel like subordinate subjects to government, everything else is perceived in that context where people are not equal but "those in power" will always control the laws.
Reminds me of the elephants brought up from youth with a tether on their ankle
restraining them to a post. And once they get used to not being able to walk very far, much less being able to run free, you can remove the post. And just keeping the tether
on the ankle prevents them from breaking off and running free, because they assume they are restrained.
I really thought this could be resolved.
But if people are SO stuck in victim mentality, nobody will support arguments to
set up independent district for teaching people ownership of land and laws,
then maybe we are stuck with the government we've got. So sad, sick and sorry!