Zone1 Here's Why White Guilt About Slavery Is Insane

[rightwinger]

• 5.4 million were sent to Brazil
• 3.6 million were sent to the Carribean
• 1.2 million were sent to Jamaica
• 900,000 were sent to St. Dominique (French Colony)
• 889,000 were sent to Cuba
• 470,000 were sent to the United States

The U.S. stopped importing slaves from Africa in 1808. We had around a million slaves at that time.

But by 1860 we had 4 million slaves by just breeding

Not a proud legacy

 

[beagle9]

But that was not the only speech he made.

Here is part of a speech you don't repeat because you only know one sentence that King spoke and you misuse it to excuse your racism.

Where do we go from here? First, we must massively assert our dignity and worth. We must stand up amid a system that still oppresses us and develop an unassailable and majestic sense of values. We must no longer be ashamed of being black. The job of arousing manhood within a people that have been taught for so many centuries that they are nobody is not easy.

Even semantics have conspired to make that which is black seem ugly and degrading. In Roget’s Thesaurus there are some 120 synonyms for blackness and at least sixty of them are offensive, such words as blot, soot, grim, devil, and foul. And there are some 134 synonyms for whiteness and all are favorable, expressed in such words as purity, cleanliness, chastity, and innocence. A white lie is better than a black lie. The most degenerate member of a family is the “black sheep.”

Ossie Davis has suggested that maybe the English language should be reconstructed so that teachers will not be forced to teach the Negro child sixty ways to despise himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of inferiority, and the white child 134 ways to adore himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of superiority. The tendency to ignore the Negro’s contribution to American life and strip him of his personhood is as old as the earliest history books and as contemporary as the morning’s newspaper.

The Negro will only be free when he reaches down to the inner depths of his own being and signs with the pen and ink of assertive manhood his own emancipation proclamation. And with a spirit straining toward true self-esteem, the Negro must boldly throw off the manacles of self-abnegation and say to himself and to the world, “I am somebody. I am a person. I am a man with dignity and honor. I have a rich and noble history, however painful and exploited that history has been. Yes, I was a slave through my foreparents, and now I’m not ashamed of that. I’m ashamed of the people who were so sinful to make me a slave.” Yes, yes, we must stand up and say, “I’m black, but I’m black and beautiful.” This, this self-affirmation is the black man’s need, made compelling by the white man’s crimes against him.

Source:

Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., “Where Do We Go From Here,” Annual Report Delivered in August of 1967 at the 11th Convention of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Atlanta Georgia. Where Do We Go From Here? | Austin MLK Celebration

It is either pure evil or pure ignorance to spew the racist beliefs you do, then claim that Democrats are making up racism to keep some kind of propaganda going. This is why whites like you are called the lineage of evil.

Oh so now the board racist IM2 wants to put his two cents worth in... You are twisting word's into a personalized narrative/context, and you are doing so in order to make it apply in some sort of accusatory way, otherwise in a way that somehow accuses one of being a racist for daring to quote Kings famous words, (when I am absolutely not a racist, and you have no proof what so ever of that), and yet you quickly attack because I used Kings speech in context of, and showed you that it applies perfectly to what solves it all.

It upsets your narrative and ultimately your agenda so much that you bent yourself into pretzels trying to make Martin Luther Kings word's off limits to white people, as if he would be for that. He was not for that, so what's your foolish point in this type of response given by you, otherwise other than you being your partisan racist self today ?

Oh I know, it is that you racist don't think that some white folks know all to well the wicked game's that you leftist play.

 

[rightwinger]

Only 1% of White people owned slaves?

Misleading when you look at how plantations were run.
There might be 50 slaves on the plantation and all are owned by one man.

White family members, overseers, tradesmen also lived off that plantation.

When the Confederacy was formed, 40 percent of the population was slave. Their economy was based on slave labor

 

[beagle9]

He’s making the factual point that, on average, Jews have higher IQs than Christians. (It’s also factual that, on average, blacks run faster than whites.)

There are still individual differences, though. I know some medicore Jews and some brilliant Christians.

Never win playing the supremacy game. Individual character and strength is the key. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[IM2]

The U.S. stopped importing slaves from Africa in 1808. We had around a million slaves at that time.

But by 1860 we had 4 million slaves by just breeding

Not a proud legacy

Slave breeding was one of the first American industries.

 

[Hector12]

The worst mistake European settlers in the Americas made was to allow the slave trade. Imagine what the United States would be like with no Negroes.

The crime rate would be much lower. The cost of our criminal justice system and our welfare system would be much lower.

The downtown areas of our cities would not be asphalt jungles characterized by crime and moral degeneracy. They would be centers of civilization. It would be possible to watch a movie or a play, or to attend a symphony concert or a ballet that ended at 10:00 pm, walk two miles to get home, and be perfectly safe.

 

[IM2]

Misleading when you look at how plantations were run.
There might be 50 slaves on the plantation and all are owned by one man.

White family members, overseers, tradesmen also lived off that plantation.

When the Confederacy was formed, 40 percent of the population was slave. Their economy was based on slave labor

Also misleading was the millions of people in America and worldwide who owned slave-backed securities who profited from slavery but could say they never owned a slave.

 

[Hector12]

Also misleading was the millions of people in America and worldwide who owned slave-backed securities who profited from slavery but could say they never owned a slave.

The only people who benefited from slavery comprised they very small number of people who owned slaves. In the South nearly every trade or profession paid less than in the North. Immigrants moved to the North because that is where the opportunities were.

The South has always been the economic back water of the United States. The Industrial revolution happened in the North. The computer revolution is happening on the West Coast.

 

[rightwinger]

The only people who benefited from slavery comprised they very small number of people who owned slaves. In the South nearly every trade or profession paid less than in the North. Immigrants moved to the North because that is where the opportunities were.

The South has always been the economic back water of the United States. The Industrial revolution happened in the North. The computer revolution is happening on the West Coast.

Even though the direct percentage was ~25%, slavery underpinned much more of the economy:

• Cotton production, done almost entirely by enslaved labor, dominated Southern exports and wealth.
• By 1860 the South produced about 75% of the world’s cotton, which drove trade and finance.
• Enslaved people themselves were also valuable property, worth billions of dollars and representing a huge portion of Southern wealth.

Because cotton exports supported shipping, banking, insurance, and trade, much of the rest of the Southern economy depended indirectly on slave labor

 

[IM2]

Oh so now the board racist IM2 wants to put his two cents worth in... You are twisting word's into a personalized narrative/context, and you are doing so in order to make it apply in some sort of accusatory way, otherwise in a way that somehow accuses one of being a racist for daring to quote Kings famous words, (when I am absolutely not a racist, and you have no proof what so ever of that), and yet you quickly attack because I used Kings speech in context of, and showed you that it applies perfectly to what solves it all.

It upsets your narrative and ultimately your agenda so much that you bent yourself into pretzels trying to make Martin Luther Kings word's off limits to white people, as if he would be for that. He was not for that, so what's your foolish point in this type of response given by you, otherwise other than you being your partisan racist self today ?

Oh I know, it is that you racist don't think that some white folks know all to well the wicked game's that you leftist play.

Wong. I am posting words King spoke that you never talk about. In tht same speech, he made comments long before that sentence, and you never quoted them.

So:

I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: "For Whites Only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream.

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride, From every mountainside, let freedom ring!​

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.

Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California.​

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi.

From every mountainside, let freedom ring.​

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!​

Martin Luther King I Have a Dream Speech - American Rhetoric

Martin Luther King's I Have A Dream speech text and audio

www.americanrhetoric.com

When he made his famous speech in 1963, he said that he wanted his kids to live in a world without white racism. Almost every word Dr. King spoke was in opposition to that same racism. Some Americans need to learn that he was asking whites to stop being racists and that whites start looking at blacks not for the color of their skin but that WHITES begin looking at us for the content of our character. He was not asking blacks to ignore white racism while lying to themselves about being colorblind. His dream was about the end of white racism.

So you miss the entire message and try to twist what King says to excuse your racism. Everything you accuse me of is what you owe. All you people in the lineage of evil do is project. You practice racism, you posts are full of it. When you say you ae not a racist and I can't find anything racist you have said, shows that you suffer from psychosis. You are mentally ill.

KEEP REV. KINGS NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. IF ALL YOU CAN DO IS REPEAT ONE SENTENCE!

 

[IM2]

Here's Why White Guilt About Slavery Is Insane​

What about white guilt about Jim Crow or today's laissez-faire racism?

The lineage of evil likes to pretend everything is only about slavery. But it's not.

 

[IM2]

Even though the direct percentage was ~25%, slavery underpinned much more of the economy:

• Cotton production, done almost entirely by enslaved labor, dominated Southern exports and wealth.
• By 1860 the South produced about 75% of the world’s cotton, which drove trade and finance.
• Enslaved people themselves were also valuable property, worth billions of dollars and representing a huge portion of Southern wealth.

Because cotton exports supported shipping, banking, insurance, and trade, much of the rest of the Southern economy depended indirectly on slave labor

Slavery created New York's Wall Street.

 

[Hector12]

Are whites better off because of the presence of blacks?

I don't think so.

Ara blacks better off because of the presence of whites?

I certainly think so.

 

[Lisa558]

So we have a member of the lineage of evil who disagrees with an actual speech made by Rev. King.

Do you paid a bonus every time you work in “lineage of evil”?

 

[Lisa558]

Stupidity is the number one trait of you people in the lineage of evil.

“Lineage of evil” AGAIN!

 

[rightwinger]

Ara blacks better off because of the presence of whites?

I certainly think so.

Let’s look at Africa
We sold millions of their residents into slavery
We colonised Africa and stole their wealth in exotic animal skins, Ivory, Gold, Diamonds

 

[IM2]

Let’s look at Africa
We sold millions of their residents into slavery
We colonised Africa and stole their wealth in exotic animal skins, Ivory, Gold, Diamonds

Africa and India have made Western countries very wealthy.

 

[Hafar1014]

Africa and India have made Western countries very wealthy.

Subtract the cost of black crime and welfare and you owe us.

 

[IM2]

Subtract the cost of black crime and welfare and you owe us.

White crime has been far more costly an more whites have been on welfare. Blacks were excluded from the various welfare programs from 1910 until 1965, and even after that, most of the welfare money went to whites. Once again, we see the ignorance that comes from the lineage of evil.

 

[Hafar1014]

White crime has been far more costly an more whites have been on welfare. Blacks were excluded from the various welfare programs from 1910 until 1965, and even after that, most of the welfare money went to whites. Once again, we see the ignorance that comes from the lineage of evil.

13% of the population and they are the largest culture on welfare and create more than half of all crime. You owe us