Here’s Proof That the Modern Day GOP Built Itself on Racism

[amrchaos]

I think the point people need to consider is that it is not the past that matter so much, but the perceived now.

If the perceptions are based on beliefs that contradict documented historical facts, is that relevant?

Yes
Especially to those who hold them!

Perspective shapes behavior. If a person believes Republicans and/or their policies are hostile to their group, they may not support Republicans.

If a person believes that it is only a few Republicans that are hostile, but the one running for office is basically a good candidate with good policies, that person most likely vote for that candidate. The party itself is irrelevant.

 

[Esmeralda]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Who is rewriting history?

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

 

[Esmeralda]

What does the good old school book say on the subject?

Looks like someone didn't do their homework.

The Republican Party of the 1800s and early 1900s is not the Republican Partyt of today. It is pathetic that you people try to take credit for the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. Disgusting and pathetic.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

 

[Pogo]

What does the good old school book say on the subject?

Looks like someone didn't do their homework.

The Republican Party of the 1800s and early 1900s is not the Republican Partyt of today. It is pathetic that you people try to take credit for the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. Disgusting and pathetic.

Norman illustrates that a walk through the depths of the ocean of the armchair political scientists on this board would scarcely get one's feet wet. Doesn't bother to crack a history book, just looks up Googly Images and runs with it. Give a wannabe pundit an internet account and he thinks he can fool all the people all of the time.

When it was founded in 1854 and for most of the rest of the century the Republican Party was the home of Liberalism and standing up for the people, particularly slaves, which other parties that came and went (like the Whigs, where Lincoln came from) didn't want to deal with, hoping it would just solve itself. That changed when the century turned and the RP started taking on the interests of the wealthy and the corporations and the Democrats absorbed the Populist movement. In effect a reversal of the political magnetic poles. The two Roosevelts personify it -- Teddy failed to prevent it in 1912, Franklin succeeded in 1933.

These amateur wags think political parties are some kind of ideological rock that stands in one place and ignores the political winds around them. They ain't. They're simply organized efforts to consolidate power, whatever it takes to do that.

Looks like someone didn't do his homework.

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. --- Lincoln​

 

[Correll]

I think the point people need to consider is that it is not the past that matter so much, but the perceived now.

If the perceptions are based on beliefs that contradict documented historical facts, is that relevant?

Yes
Especially to those who hold them!

Perspective shapes behavior. If a person believes Republicans and/or their policies are hostile to their group, they may not support Republicans.

If a person believes that it is only a few Republicans that are hostile, but the one running for office is basically a good candidate with good policies, that person most likely vote for that candidate. The party itself is irrelevant.

You don't care if the perceptions are based on incorrect beliefs?

 

[Correll]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Who is rewriting history?

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

 

[Correll]

What does the good old school book say on the subject?

Looks like someone didn't do their homework.

The Republican Party of the 1800s and early 1900s is not the Republican Partyt of today. It is pathetic that you people try to take credit for the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. Disgusting and pathetic.

Our views on the God Given Rights of the American Citizens are the same today as they have always been.

 

[Correll]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

Except that we are not racist, and if you continue to dismiss the interests of whites, the largest single ethnic group, because "racism", you are going to tear this nation apart.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Who is rewriting history?

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

African-Americans were republicans longer then we've been democrats. What exactly did republicans do for Black people all those years we were voting for them? It sure as Hell wasn't Civil Rights .. and some of the worst atrocities blacks have suffered were done on the republican watch.

SHORTLY after blacks became democrats .. Civil Rights legislation was passed.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

Except that we are not racist, and if you continue to dismiss the interests of whites, the largest single ethnic group, because "racism", you are going to tear this nation apart.

Don't look now, but republicans have already torn this nation apart.

Of course your party is racist .. this board is an example of republican thought about non-white people ... thoughts you will not find on democratic message boards unless it's said by a republican.

You see the racist comments and you say nothing about it.

 

[Correll]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Who is rewriting history?

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

African-Americans were republicans longer then we've been democrats. What exactly did republicans do for Black people all those years we were voting for them? It sure as Hell wasn't Civil Rights .. and some of the worst atrocities blacks have suffered were done on the republican watch.

SHORTLY after blacks became democrats .. Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Actually, it was civil rights.


I've posted some of the stuff Nixon did. Do you want more examples of civil right from the gop?


Under Reagan the Black Middle Class grew rapidly.


I recall predictions that going into the Persian Gulf War that blacks always died disproportionately.


Thanks to Reagan's military, not only was the casualties minimal, but they were NOT disproportionately black.

 

[Correll]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

Except that we are not racist, and if you continue to dismiss the interests of whites, the largest single ethnic group, because "racism", you are going to tear this nation apart.

Don't look now, but republicans have already torn this nation apart.

Of course your party is racist .. this board is an example of republican thought about non-white people ... thoughts you will not find on democratic message boards unless it's said by a republican.

You see the racist comments and you say nothing about it.

The republicans are not the ones claiming that half the nation is out to oppress the other half.

Saying "of course" is not an argument, you asshole.

The resentment on the RIght you see towards people who vote against them si completely mirrored by the Left's resentment of people who vote against them.


How many times do you see libs on this site viciously smearing poor or middle class white republicans, Christians, Southerns, ect. ect. ?


YOu see those bigoted and even often racist comments and I never see you or any libs say anything about them.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

It's called re-writing history, The powerful often do that.

Who is rewriting history?

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

African-Americans were republicans longer then we've been democrats. What exactly did republicans do for Black people all those years we were voting for them? It sure as Hell wasn't Civil Rights .. and some of the worst atrocities blacks have suffered were done on the republican watch.

SHORTLY after blacks became democrats .. Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Actually, it was civil rights.


I've posted some of the stuff Nixon did. Do you want more examples of civil right from the gop?


Under Reagan the Black Middle Class grew rapidly.


I recall predictions that going into the Persian Gulf War that blacks always died disproportionately.


Thanks to Reagan's military, not only was the casualties minimal, but they were NOT disproportionately black.

I asked what republicans did for their black constituents before we became democrats. From 1930 to 1960 .. what did republicans do for Black people who were voting for them?

You keep touting Nixon as if he was some civil rights hero. He wasn't.

The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans
The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans

 

[BlackAsCoal]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

Except that we are not racist, and if you continue to dismiss the interests of whites, the largest single ethnic group, because "racism", you are going to tear this nation apart.

Don't look now, but republicans have already torn this nation apart.

Of course your party is racist .. this board is an example of republican thought about non-white people ... thoughts you will not find on democratic message boards unless it's said by a republican.

You see the racist comments and you say nothing about it.

The republicans are not the ones claiming that half the nation is out to oppress the other half.

Saying "of course" is not an argument, you asshole.

The resentment on the RIght you see towards people who vote against them si completely mirrored by the Left's resentment of people who vote against them.


How many times do you see libs on this site viciously smearing poor or middle class white republicans, Christians, Southerns, ect. ect. ?


YOu see those bigoted and even often racist comments and I never see you or any libs say anything about them.

I see nothing at all racist by democrats on this site or on democratic sites .. which is one reason why ALL people vote for democrats.

.. and yes, of course your party is racist .. 'of course' meaning that it's well-known .. you stupid ****.

But it doesn't matter what you see or don't see .. the fate of the Republican Party is sealed.

 

[Correll]

Who is rewriting history?

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

African-Americans were republicans longer then we've been democrats. What exactly did republicans do for Black people all those years we were voting for them? It sure as Hell wasn't Civil Rights .. and some of the worst atrocities blacks have suffered were done on the republican watch.

SHORTLY after blacks became democrats .. Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Actually, it was civil rights.


I've posted some of the stuff Nixon did. Do you want more examples of civil right from the gop?


Under Reagan the Black Middle Class grew rapidly.


I recall predictions that going into the Persian Gulf War that blacks always died disproportionately.


Thanks to Reagan's military, not only was the casualties minimal, but they were NOT disproportionately black.

I asked what republicans did for their black constituents before we became democrats. From 1930 to 1960 .. what did republicans do for Black people who were voting for them?

You keep touting Nixon as if he was some civil rights hero. He wasn't.

The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans
The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans

I posted Nixon's record on Civil Rights and Affirmative Action which you have not addressed.

Since you asked for more, specifically between 30 and 60 here is an example.


African-American Civil Rights Movement (1954–68) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The Arkansas Democratic Party, which then controlled politics in the state, put significant pressure on Faubus after he had indicated he would investigate bringing Arkansas into compliance with the Browndecision. Faubus then took his stand against integration and against the Federal court ruling.

Faubus' resistance received the attention of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was determined to enforce the orders of the Federal courts. Critics had charged he was lukewarm, at best, on the goal of desegregation of public schools. But, Eisenhower federalized the National Guard in Arkansas and ordered them to return to their barracks. Eisenhower deployed elements of the101st Airborne Division to Little Rock to protect the students."


Eisenhower was of course, a republican.

 

[Correll]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

Except that we are not racist, and if you continue to dismiss the interests of whites, the largest single ethnic group, because "racism", you are going to tear this nation apart.

Don't look now, but republicans have already torn this nation apart.

Of course your party is racist .. this board is an example of republican thought about non-white people ... thoughts you will not find on democratic message boards unless it's said by a republican.

You see the racist comments and you say nothing about it.

The republicans are not the ones claiming that half the nation is out to oppress the other half.

Saying "of course" is not an argument, you asshole.

The resentment on the RIght you see towards people who vote against them si completely mirrored by the Left's resentment of people who vote against them.


How many times do you see libs on this site viciously smearing poor or middle class white republicans, Christians, Southerns, ect. ect. ?


YOu see those bigoted and even often racist comments and I never see you or any libs say anything about them.

I see nothing at all racist by democrats on this site or on democratic sites .. which is one reason why ALL people vote for democrats.

.. and yes, of course your party is racist .. 'of course' meaning that it's well-known .. you stupid ****.

But it doesn't matter what you see or don't see .. the fate of the Republican Party is sealed.

If you don't see the behavior by the dems, it is because of Willful BLindness on your part.

You are too stupid to understand that repeating something over and over, is not proof.

YOu are an asshole.

**** you.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

The really good news is for what has become of the Republican Party .. the end is near. Your racism and hate has killed you.

2016 is your last hurrah.

Except that we are not racist, and if you continue to dismiss the interests of whites, the largest single ethnic group, because "racism", you are going to tear this nation apart.

Don't look now, but republicans have already torn this nation apart.

Of course your party is racist .. this board is an example of republican thought about non-white people ... thoughts you will not find on democratic message boards unless it's said by a republican.

You see the racist comments and you say nothing about it.

The republicans are not the ones claiming that half the nation is out to oppress the other half.

Saying "of course" is not an argument, you asshole.

The resentment on the RIght you see towards people who vote against them si completely mirrored by the Left's resentment of people who vote against them.


How many times do you see libs on this site viciously smearing poor or middle class white republicans, Christians, Southerns, ect. ect. ?


YOu see those bigoted and even often racist comments and I never see you or any libs say anything about them.

I see nothing at all racist by democrats on this site or on democratic sites .. which is one reason why ALL people vote for democrats.

.. and yes, of course your party is racist .. 'of course' meaning that it's well-known .. you stupid ****.

But it doesn't matter what you see or don't see .. the fate of the Republican Party is sealed.

If you don't see the behavior by the dems, it is because of Willful BLindness on your part.

You are too stupid to understand that repeating something over and over, is not proof.

YOu are an asshole.

**** you.

**** you dummy.

Did you get the definition of Southern Strategy changed yet?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

It is the Republican Party that is rewriting history. In no way is the Republican Party the party of Abraham Lincoln. Not the modern Republican Party. The modern Republican Party is the antithesis of what Lincoln stood for. What's in a name? At one time, the party to which Lincoln belonged was named the Republican Party, but their values and goals were opposite to those of the modern day Republican Party. Poor Lincoln would be turning over in his grave being identified as aligned with current day Republicans

.

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

African-Americans were republicans longer then we've been democrats. What exactly did republicans do for Black people all those years we were voting for them? It sure as Hell wasn't Civil Rights .. and some of the worst atrocities blacks have suffered were done on the republican watch.

SHORTLY after blacks became democrats .. Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Actually, it was civil rights.


I've posted some of the stuff Nixon did. Do you want more examples of civil right from the gop?


Under Reagan the Black Middle Class grew rapidly.


I recall predictions that going into the Persian Gulf War that blacks always died disproportionately.


Thanks to Reagan's military, not only was the casualties minimal, but they were NOT disproportionately black.

I asked what republicans did for their black constituents before we became democrats. From 1930 to 1960 .. what did republicans do for Black people who were voting for them?

You keep touting Nixon as if he was some civil rights hero. He wasn't.

The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans
The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans

I posted Nixon's record on Civil Rights and Affirmative Action which you have not addressed.

Since you asked for more, specifically between 30 and 60 here is an example.


African-American Civil Rights Movement (1954–68) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The Arkansas Democratic Party, which then controlled politics in the state, put significant pressure on Faubus after he had indicated he would investigate bringing Arkansas into compliance with the Browndecision. Faubus then took his stand against integration and against the Federal court ruling.

Faubus' resistance received the attention of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was determined to enforce the orders of the Federal courts. Critics had charged he was lukewarm, at best, on the goal of desegregation of public schools. But, Eisenhower federalized the National Guard in Arkansas and ordered them to return to their barracks. Eisenhower deployed elements of the101st Airborne Division to Little Rock to protect the students."


Eisenhower was of course, a republican.

I like Eisenhower, I think he was an honorable man, a good president. However, his deployment of the Guard to Arkansas was FAR from enough considering all the horror Blacks suffered during those times. Eisenhower tried to keep Blacks from bolting to the Democratic Party, but the times overwhelmed him and his effort.

Attracting more of the African-American vote was a central strategy of the Eisenhower campaign in 1956. The Party of Lincoln was not destroyed by the New Deal alliance, as Historian Nancy Weiss suggests. Instead, Eisenhower’s first term authenticated the Republican Party’s commitment to equal rights, leading to a historic escalation of support among blacks. In the 1956, the African-American vote was not a settled question; it was up for grabs. The Republicans cautiously endeavored to tip the electoral balance towards Eisenhower through persuading more African Americans to vote for them in 1956. The goal of Citizens for Eisenhower of returning blacks to the Grand Old Party was never fully realized in part because the Eisenhower’s pragmatic yet progressive policies were not easily transferable to the national party nor were they absorbed by the Republican mainstream. In addition, Republicans’ attempts to make inroads with southern whites, almost all of who were segregationists, undercut their commitment to civil rights and too overtly courting the black vote.

Eisenhower won a historic 36% of the African-American vote in 1956, which remains the highest percentage of votes for a Republican presidential candidate since Herbert Hoover.
http://cupola.gettysburg.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1295&context=student_scholarship

Before Eisenhower Blacks suffered tremendously from racist oppression while voting for republicans.

After Eisenhower, republicans abandoned black constituents for a plan to capture the South and racists.

Shortly after Blacks switched to the Democratic Party, Civil Rights legislation was authored and passed .. with the help of one of my civil rights heroes, Republican Senator Everett Dirksen.

The realignment was well under way.

 

[Correll]

Empty partisan blather.

The GOP has been pro-civil rights since before it was cool, and has never wavered on this point.

African-Americans were republicans longer then we've been democrats. What exactly did republicans do for Black people all those years we were voting for them? It sure as Hell wasn't Civil Rights .. and some of the worst atrocities blacks have suffered were done on the republican watch.

SHORTLY after blacks became democrats .. Civil Rights legislation was passed.

Actually, it was civil rights.


I've posted some of the stuff Nixon did. Do you want more examples of civil right from the gop?


Under Reagan the Black Middle Class grew rapidly.


I recall predictions that going into the Persian Gulf War that blacks always died disproportionately.


Thanks to Reagan's military, not only was the casualties minimal, but they were NOT disproportionately black.

I asked what republicans did for their black constituents before we became democrats. From 1930 to 1960 .. what did republicans do for Black people who were voting for them?

You keep touting Nixon as if he was some civil rights hero. He wasn't.

The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans
The Nixon Tapes, Racism and The Republicans

I posted Nixon's record on Civil Rights and Affirmative Action which you have not addressed.

Since you asked for more, specifically between 30 and 60 here is an example.


African-American Civil Rights Movement (1954–68) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"The Arkansas Democratic Party, which then controlled politics in the state, put significant pressure on Faubus after he had indicated he would investigate bringing Arkansas into compliance with the Browndecision. Faubus then took his stand against integration and against the Federal court ruling.

Faubus' resistance received the attention of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was determined to enforce the orders of the Federal courts. Critics had charged he was lukewarm, at best, on the goal of desegregation of public schools. But, Eisenhower federalized the National Guard in Arkansas and ordered them to return to their barracks. Eisenhower deployed elements of the101st Airborne Division to Little Rock to protect the students."


Eisenhower was of course, a republican.

I like Eisenhower, I think he was an honorable man, a good president. However, his deployment of the Guard to Arkansas was FAR from enough considering all the horror Blacks suffered during those times. Eisenhower tried to keep Blacks from bolting to the Democratic Party, but the times overwhelmed him and his effort.

Attracting more of the African-American vote was a central strategy of the Eisenhower campaign in 1956. The Party of Lincoln was not destroyed by the New Deal alliance, as Historian Nancy Weiss suggests. Instead, Eisenhower’s first term authenticated the Republican Party’s commitment to equal rights, leading to a historic escalation of support among blacks. In the 1956, the African-American vote was not a settled question; it was up for grabs. The Republicans cautiously endeavored to tip the electoral balance towards Eisenhower through persuading more African Americans to vote for them in 1956. The goal of Citizens for Eisenhower of returning blacks to the Grand Old Party was never fully realized in part because the Eisenhower’s pragmatic yet progressive policies were not easily transferable to the national party nor were they absorbed by the Republican mainstream. In addition, Republicans’ attempts to make inroads with southern whites, almost all of who were segregationists, undercut their commitment to civil rights and too overtly courting the black vote.

Eisenhower won a historic 36% of the African-American vote in 1956, which remains the highest percentage of votes for a Republican presidential candidate since Herbert Hoover.
http://cupola.gettysburg.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1295&context=student_scholarship

Before Eisenhower Blacks suffered tremendously from racist oppression while voting for republicans.

After Eisenhower, republicans abandoned black constituents for a plan to capture the South and racists.

Shortly after Blacks switched to the Democratic Party, Civil Rights legislation was authored and passed .. with the help of one of my civil rights heroes, Republican Senator Everett Dirksen.

The realignment was well under way.

1. You call Eisenhower a honorable man, yet characterize his actions as simply politically motivated by a desire for black votes.

Yet, the REpublcian party had, at that time, a long standing IDEOLOGICAL commitment to Civil Rights. It is more likely that he did what he did because he sincerely believed it was the Right THing to do.

2. Your sources, once again cites the supposed "attempts to make inroads" with southern whites as a reason he failed to court blacks.

Yet we have already established that documented historical facts do not show any such attempts. You have implicitly admitted that,by your repeated dismissal of documented historical facts as a reason to revisit written histories.

3. The Civil RIghts bills were passed with strong republican support. Yes, when the dems stopped fighting back against Civil Rights, much faster progress was obviously made.

But the GOP never flipped on the issue.