“Hell yes we are going to take your AR-15”

It may have, it’s tough to account something like a limited ban. Certainly we’ve had way more mass shooting deaths since it expired.
As the 1994 AWB did nothing to reduce legal access to 'assault weapons', it is impossible to soundly argue it had any effect on...well... anything.
Why would you think otherwise?

AWB.webp
 
We’ve had the assault weapon ban for a decade and it was never ruled unconstitutional.
I asked you this before :
Why do you think the current court would rule it constitutional?
Maybe this time you'll answer.
It would rule it constitutional because even If the court deems 2nd amendment to apply to individuals owning firearms,
What do you mean "if"?
The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
Hoe do you not know this?
the law only limits the type of weapon you could have, it does not prevent you from owning a firearm.
The 2nd protects the right own and use all "bearable arms" - that is, firearm in common use for traditionally legal purposes.
Why do you think the USSC will find the 2nd does not protect he right to own and use an AR15 when they are, unquestionably, in common use for those purposes?
 

I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

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You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
Nobody has ever disputed background checks.

20, 30, and 40-round magazines are already in common use. That's infringement.

You are the people who forced us to fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court over the issue of whether the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right. That was the sleaziest shit move anyone could make.

That tells us that YOU are dug in and want a complete ban. You are just a bunch of liars.

There will be insurrection if you try that shit. We're done talking too.

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You can keep your 40 round mag. We just won't make them anymore.

Don't say nobody has ever disputed background checks. You republicans dispute them.

Why won't Republicans pass their own background-check bill?
Republicans and the NRA claim they want better background checks for guns. Their actions tell a different story

Why won't Republicans pass their own background-check bill?


Because it's stupid. Next question.
 
We’ve had the assault weapon ban for a decade and it was never ruled unconstitutional.
I asked you this before :
Why do you think the current court would rule it constitutional?
Maybe this time you'll answer.
It would rule it constitutional because even If the court deems 2nd amendment to apply to individuals owning firearms,
What do you mean "if"?
The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
Hoe do you not know this?
the law only limits the type of weapon you could have, it does not prevent you from owning a firearm.
The 2nd protects the right own and use all "bearable arms" - that is, firearm in common use for traditionally legal purposes.
Why do you think the USSC will find the 2nd does not protect he right to own and use an AR15 when they are, unquestionably, in common use for those purposes?


He is relying on the 4 left wingers still alive on the court and the press making fun of Roberts till he votes with the left wingers.
 
I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.
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You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
I thought you were done?
 

I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

.

You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
Nobody has ever disputed background checks.

20, 30, and 40-round magazines are already in common use. That's infringement.

You are the people who forced us to fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court over the issue of whether the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right. That was the sleaziest shit move anyone could make.

That tells us that YOU are dug in and want a complete ban. You are just a bunch of liars.

There will be insurrection if you try that shit. We're done talking too.

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You can keep your 40 round mag. We just won't make them anymore.

Don't say nobody has ever disputed background checks. You republicans dispute them.

Why won't Republicans pass their own background-check bill?
Republicans and the NRA claim they want better background checks for guns. Their actions tell a different story

Why won't Republicans pass their own background-check bill?
salon.com - they are going to be a "here, have some fire" type of site and not present the news. just points of argument so people will NOT get to an honest conclusion. this is about the same as using alex jones as a source.
 

I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

.

You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
what do you hope to accomplish by limiting mags to 10 rounds?

would this have saved anyone in any of the mass shootings out there? no speculation on this please, facts and figures only.
 

I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

.

You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
what do you hope to accomplish by limiting mags to 10 rounds?
Like all of the other inane limits they seek -- to lay another unnecessary and ineffective restriction on the rights of the law abiding.
 

I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

.

You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
what do you hope to accomplish by limiting mags to 10 rounds?
Like all of the other inane limits they seek -- to lay another unnecessary and ineffective restriction on the rights of the law abiding.
and when it doesn't get the end desired result of lowering overall violence, they'll work to add more limits. more restrictions.

our worst cities in this have the strongest laws and the violence continues. we have precedence to show that isn't working. let's at LEAST think about / try something else.
 
I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

.

You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
what do you hope to accomplish by limiting mags to 10 rounds?
Like all of the other inane limits they seek -- to lay another unnecessary and ineffective restriction on the rights of the law abiding.
and when it doesn't get the end desired result of lowering overall violence, they'll work to add more limits. more restrictions.
We need look no further than the anti-gun state legislatures in CA NY and NJ for irrefutable proof of this
 
Question is why do you fight every idea we throw out there. You like murder

What idea do you present? I haven't seen any real ideas as of yet. You scream "NO" or "You can't tell me what to do" every step of the way. I want the AR to be regulated but leave the traditional hunting rifles alone. Is that a bad idea? And I have clearly stated my reasoning why. Now clearly state your ideas.

Hunting rifles are deadlier.

No, they aren't. Some are just more powerful (velocity vs. energy). I've never seen an elephant gun with a 100-round rotary magazine.

Take one average run-of-mill duck gun. Load with OO buckshot (at 9 shot per shell) and three pulls of the trigger will put 27 projectiles in the air. Many have magazines able to hold five which will yield 45 projectiles with five trigger pulls and no reloading. Whereas an AR-15 requires 20 trigger pulls to fire 20rnds with a 20rnd. mag. If both are fired into a packed crowd of people which is more deadly?

The AR. The AR will penetrate up to 3 bodies and probably lodge in the forth. The OO buck won't go much past the first person although it's going to make one hell of a mess.

A pipe bomb with nails will probably kill more. We should ban pipe and nails. Holy shit!! I can't believe that, in order to discuss this subject with you gun grabbers, we have to start discussing kill-rates. If folks were allowed to be armed and encouraged to be armed the kill rate would drop to 1......The perp.
 
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And exactly how will anyone ever ban firearms? .


Exactly like it has been done in other countries. The filthy ass elected officials just pass laws to do it and the sheeple goes along with it.
 
What is it about left tards who do not know the meaning of "shall not be infringed"?
It doesn’t mean weapon manufacturers can make wmds or that you can possess them.

How come you don’t cry about machine guns being classified and regulated differently than most other firearms? So just throw ar15s on that list.
Because the AR is NOT A MACHINE GUN
 
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i wanna see *this* country free from the threat of school shootings dude.
So long as people know how to make guns, we will never be free from the threat of school shootings.
OK

Let’s stop producing guns and see what happens
You act like the only folks that can make them are big corporations. Are you really that dumb? Oh wait, everyone knows RWINGER. :71:

I'll tell you what will happen, criminals will have them b/c of their motivation, and everyone else will be at the mercy of the incompetent STATE.

Banning guns is impossible now. That horse has left the barn, permanently.

Solid Concepts 3D Prints Another Metal Gun, ‘Reason’, a 10mm Auto 1911

Student jailed for making 3D printed gun
Good!

Flood the earth with them and balance the power.

All people should be armed.

.
No problem at all with how many weapons there are, but where the problem comes in, uhh is where the left doesn't know the difference between a good guy and a bad guy these days.

This has become a major problem these days, but do you know why the left has this problem ?? It's because they are at war with those who believe in God and freedom, and the leftist are against those who are a religious people in this nation, otherwise against those who have built their lives around these beliefs be it in this world, and/or within this country. Christians are great people, and they are good peaceful people, but the bottom line is that those who are bad or are being used because they have a tendency to be bad, well they hate Christians, and they are doing everything in their power to destroy the word of God from our nation, and all because of it's convicting powers, and if it means destroying the good Christian's, then they will attempt to do that also. Gonna get interesting indeed.
 
I'm done arguing this subject with gun nuts. We just have to hope voters force our politicians to do what's right. Similar to global warming. You can't even discuss it with right wingers. They are dug in.
It looks to me like it is you gun grabbers who are dug in. You are all hell bent on taking action to further infringe on a right and will not listen to reason.

.

You mean background checks or limit magazines to 10 rounds?
what do you hope to accomplish by limiting mags to 10 rounds?
Like all of the other inane limits they seek -- to lay another unnecessary and ineffective restriction on the rights of the law abiding.
and when it doesn't get the end desired result of lowering overall violence, they'll work to add more limits. more restrictions.

our worst cities in this have the strongest laws and the violence continues. we have precedence to show that isn't working. let's at LEAST think about / try something else.
Being truthful about who the problem is, ummm I think is this nations best response to it all, but as long as we got sell out politicians in our government, then the wars being created will continue sadly enough.
 
i wanna see *this* country free from the threat of school shootings dude.
So long as people know how to make guns, we will never be free from the threat of school shootings.
OK

Let’s stop producing guns and see what happens
You act like the only folks that can make them are big corporations. Are you really that dumb? Oh wait, everyone knows RWINGER. :71:

I'll tell you what will happen, criminals will have them b/c of their motivation, and everyone else will be at the mercy of the incompetent STATE.

Banning guns is impossible now. That horse has left the barn, permanently.

Solid Concepts 3D Prints Another Metal Gun, ‘Reason’, a 10mm Auto 1911

Student jailed for making 3D printed gun
Good!

Flood the earth with them and balance the power.

All people should be armed.

.
No problem at all with how many weapons there are, but where the problem comes in, uhh is where the left doesn't know the difference between a good guy and a bad guy these days.

This has become a major problem these days, but do you know why the left has this problem ?? It's because they are at war with those who believe in God and freedom, and the leftist are against those who are a religious people in this nation, otherwise against those who have built their lives around these beliefs be it in this world, and/or within this country. Christians are great people, and they are good peaceful people, but the bottom line is that those who are bad or are being used because they have a tendency to be bad, well they hate Christians, and they are doing everything in their power to destroy the word of God from our nation, and all because of it's convicting powers, and if it means destroying the good Christian's, then they will attempt to do that also. Gonna get interesting indeed.

Relative morality has replaced objective morality. IOW, 'morality' is now whatever anyone wants it to be. Laws have traditionally been based on objective, Judeo-Christian morals and values. Today, morality is dictated by lawyers, not God.
 
So long as people know how to make guns, we will never be free from the threat of school shootings.
OK

Let’s stop producing guns and see what happens
You act like the only folks that can make them are big corporations. Are you really that dumb? Oh wait, everyone knows RWINGER. :71:

I'll tell you what will happen, criminals will have them b/c of their motivation, and everyone else will be at the mercy of the incompetent STATE.

Banning guns is impossible now. That horse has left the barn, permanently.

Solid Concepts 3D Prints Another Metal Gun, ‘Reason’, a 10mm Auto 1911

Student jailed for making 3D printed gun
Good!

Flood the earth with them and balance the power.

All people should be armed.

.
No problem at all with how many weapons there are, but where the problem comes in, uhh is where the left doesn't know the difference between a good guy and a bad guy these days.

This has become a major problem these days, but do you know why the left has this problem ?? It's because they are at war with those who believe in God and freedom, and the leftist are against those who are a religious people in this nation, otherwise against those who have built their lives around these beliefs be it in this world, and/or within this country. Christians are great people, and they are good peaceful people, but the bottom line is that those who are bad or are being used because they have a tendency to be bad, well they hate Christians, and they are doing everything in their power to destroy the word of God from our nation, and all because of it's convicting powers, and if it means destroying the good Christian's, then they will attempt to do that also. Gonna get interesting indeed.

Relative morality has replaced objective morality. IOW, 'morality' is now whatever anyone wants it to be. Laws have traditionally been based on objective, Judeo-Christian morals and values. Today, morality is dictated by lawyers, not God.
Yeah, and how's that been working out for us lately ?? Not tooooo gooood.... Denial is strong these days, and that is a shame because people's lives are at stake in these things.
 

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