“Hell yes we are going to take your AR-15”

[iceberg]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

So far while I disagree with his premise at least he's trying to talk more than just blind grabbing.

 

[iceberg]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

The lawmakers will do it. And the gun lobbyists will not have a seat at the table.

Gun grabbers shouldn't either.

NO ONE should be at the table until they exhibit in depth knowledge on guns and history of them COUPLED WITH research into the violence itself.

Guns are nt the problem in as much as the violent society we are creating.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

So far while I disagree with his premise at least he's trying to talk more than just blind grabbing.

Nah.
She repeats the same nonsense over and over, and then runs away when you ask her to demonstrate the particulars of her posts.
She's a useful idiot, regurgitating talking points she doesn't understand, and nothing more.

 

[toobfreak]

"What’s the purpose for an AR15?"
Exactly like any other firearm it's purpose is make holes in things that are out of reach. It is used for target shooting/competition, hunting to feed families, defense of home family livestock and self, emergency preparedness, collection, and investment. The reasons a person might want one are none of your business.

"Like a machine gun we might deem ar15s too dangerous for the general public to possess."
You do not have the right or the authority to do. UnConstitutional. Nor is the AR-15 any more dangerous than any other gun car or jet aircraft.

"We can’t stop nuts from taking a semi auto pistol that carries ten rounds. But at least most of the people hav a chance to get away."
Really? Exactly how do you intend to do that? High capacity magazines are common and long-lasting and easily fabricated? Also almost all weapons that use any sort of magazine can be converted to handle high capacity magazines. And even if could make such a ban effective I doubt if the police and military will appreciate the handicap.

"Your right is taking the rights away from all the people who die because even dumb Americans can buy wmds."
Untrue. Obviously you are the one advocating taking people's rights away. Does the word "tyranny" ring any bells with you.?

That's a good point. A semi auto handgun is just as powerful or can be but it's not as good from far away. So if you take one into a crowd and people start running you'll kill much fewer people with the handgun. And a CCW holder in the room might have a chance against you. I say ban assault rifles. I have a pretty powerful Ruger 450 Bushmaster. It only holds 4 rounds. That should be legal. It's a hunting gun. I like the person who said the purpose of a AR15 is to put holes in things. What things? Is it used to hunt deer or bear? Ok, how many bullets do you need? We should only allow 4 round magazines. If you can't hit the bear in 4 shots you suck and should be eaten by the bear.

If you are shooting paper plates then you just have to reload after 4 shots. Apparently you guys say that won't slow you down one bit so don't cry about nuthin.

AR-15s are not assault rifles. Nor are they especially powerful. What do you really want banned? They are indeed used to hunt all manner of things. They are especially favored by women and other smallish people who have difficulty handling more powerful rounds. They are indeed used to hunt deer and bear. They are also used to hunt wild hogs which can be quite dangerous and may show up in groups of two doz. or more and in many places there is no limit on how many you can or should kill due to the damage they do to the land and other species. View attachment 280039 View attachment 280039 View attachment 280039 View attachment 280039 View attachment 280044

My ruger 450 bushmaster only holds 3 in the mag and one in the chamber.

So you want to allow wmd's that are killing American citizens on a daily basis for the rare time that DOZENS of wild dogs will attack someone? What a crock of bullshit.

Show me the last time a person was attacked by DOZENS of wild dogs and used an AR15 to save their lives.

You can have a AR15 as long as you pass the background check.

And as all of you have said, limiting the number of rounds you can have in your magazine isn't going to slow you up one bit. So now PLEASE make the argument that you NEED 10 rounds in the mag because any less will slow you up. I want to see you guys contradict yourselves on this one.

The AR-15 is not a WMD. That is an absurd statement. It is a little pup rifle.

Most of the guns used in the commission of a crime are legally purchased while passing a background check.

When you are target shooting, you go through 10 rounds like nothing. Not your place to tell me what I can and cannot buy, especially when doing so only addresses less than 1% of 1% of all gun crime.

And if the government ever wants to impose martial law to suppress the people, they would just LOVE knowing that idiots like you limited them all to 2-3 rounds.

 

[iceberg]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

So far while I disagree with his premise at least he's trying to talk more than just blind grabbing.

Nah.
She repeats the same nonsense over and over, and then runs away when you ask her to demonstrate the particulars of her posts.
She's a useful idiot, regurgitating talking points she doesn't understand, and nothing more.

Well sealy is usually on ignore so I have seen history of that.

Maybe today I'm just being overly optimistic.

 

[sealybobo]

My ruger 450 bushmaster only holds 3 in the mag and one in the chamber.

So?

So you want to allow wmd's...

There you go with the "WMD" lie again.

...that are killing American citizens on a daily basis...

If by "daily basis" you mean an average of 10 per year, sure.
Why do you need to lie to make a point?

Did I lie?

There Have Been More Mass Shootings Than Days This Year

Despite only accounting for five percent of the global population, an astounding 31 percent of the world's mass shootings occur in the U.S.

This year, there have been more mass shootings — defined as incidents in which four or more victims are shot — than days in the calendar year. According to ShootingTracker.com, which tracks deaths by guns in America, the U.S. has seen 355 mass shootings so far in 2015.

Oops that was 2015

There have been more mass shootings than days in 2019

There have been more mass shootings than days in 2019

 

[sealybobo]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

So far while I disagree with his premise at least he's trying to talk more than just blind grabbing.

Nah.
She repeats the same nonsense over and over, and then runs away when you ask her to demonstrate the particulars of her posts.
She's a useful idiot, regurgitating talking points she doesn't understand, and nothing more.

Well sealy is usually on ignore so I have seen history of that.

Maybe today I'm just being overly optimistic.

I'm a dude dudes.

 

[iceberg]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

So far while I disagree with his premise at least he's trying to talk more than just blind grabbing.

Nah.
She repeats the same nonsense over and over, and then runs away when you ask her to demonstrate the particulars of her posts.
She's a useful idiot, regurgitating talking points she doesn't understand, and nothing more.

Well sealy is usually on ignore so I have seen history of that.

Maybe today I'm just being overly optimistic.

I'm a dude dudes.

I avoided the gender pronouns.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Did I lie?

Yes.
AR15s are not weapons of mass destruction by any reasonable accounting, and 'assault weapons' are used to kill, on average, 10 people per year.
Thus, your claims are lies.
Or, you speak from ignorance.
Tell us which.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

and exactly how does:

"Nope. I'm simply pointing out how you are wrong. I'm laughing at the absurd things you post."

answer the question on how you feel about losing due process for a singular gain?

The first word. NOPE.

so you don't see red flag laws as bypassing due process? then as a follow up it would stand to reason you don't see them bypassing due process for "other" issues as they come along.

am i correct in comprehending your overly verbose response?

No. I don't see bypassing due process as something that will happen. I suspect some might want that to happen, but I don't see them succeeding.

except that if i come take your guns because a neighbor said you are dangerous, how is that *not* bypassing due process? where is my trial? where is my right to explain myself?

to me this is bypassing due process because the request doesn't launch an investigation or to see if there is merit to it, it means take my guns cause my neighbor is mad at me. so, to me, red flag laws "do" bypass due process. i would be furious with trump or any elected official if they were to do this because they take power, they never give it back.

Well they shouldn't make it so just anyone can turn you in and get your guns confiscated but if a family member calls the cops and says you're dangerous, should we wait for after you go on your rampage? And depends on the circumstances. If a neighbor says you threatened to shoot them that's not enough. If they say you pointed your AR15 at them and threatened them, then they should take your guns away until after your trial.

How did they lock up Jeffery Epstein before his trial? Wasn't he innocent until proven guilty?

What law needs to change to achieve that? It's already available in every ******* state.

So, are you ready to admit that safety is not the real objective?

.

 

[iceberg]

My ruger 450 bushmaster only holds 3 in the mag and one in the chamber.

So?

So you want to allow wmd's...

There you go with the "WMD" lie again.

...that are killing American citizens on a daily basis...

If by "daily basis" you mean an average of 10 per year, sure.
Why do you need to lie to make a point?

Did I lie?

There Have Been More Mass Shootings Than Days This Year

Despite only accounting for five percent of the global population, an astounding 31 percent of the world's mass shootings occur in the U.S.

This year, there have been more mass shootings — defined as incidents in which four or more victims are shot — than days in the calendar year. According to ShootingTracker.com, which tracks deaths by guns in America, the U.S. has seen 355 mass shootings so far in 2015.

Oops that was 2015

There have been more mass shootings than days in 2019

There have been more mass shootings than days in 2019

I don't see how they define it and which guns are usually used.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'm a dude dudes.

No one here cares about your gender identity choice.

 

[toobfreak]

My ruger 450 bushmaster only holds 3 in the mag and one in the chamber.

So?

So you want to allow wmd's...

There you go with the "WMD" lie again.

The AR-15. The Idiot Snowflake Left's new definition of a WMD!

Next year it will be rubber bands.

The brainwashed rubes have no idea what a real WMD is.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The AR-15. The Idiot Snowflake Left's new definition of a WMD!
Next year it will be rubber bands.
The brainwashed rubes have no idea what a real WMD is

Anti-guns loons know they can only move their agenda forward if they prey on the emotions of the ignorant.

 

[iceberg]

My ruger 450 bushmaster only holds 3 in the mag and one in the chamber.

So?

So you want to allow wmd's...

There you go with the "WMD" lie again.

The AR-15. The Idiot Snowflake Left's new definition of a WMD!

Next year it will be rubber bands.

The brainwashed rubes have no idea what a real WMD is.


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Yea the WMD took what was already questionable on "assault rifle" and went full blown idiocy.

 

[toobfreak]

Despite only accounting for five percent of the global population, an astounding 31 percent of the world's mass shootings occur in the U.S. This year, there have been more mass shootings — defined as incidents in which four or more victims are shot — than days in the calendar year. According to ShootingTracker.com, which tracks deaths by guns in America, the U.S. has seen 355 mass shootings so far in 2015.

More rubbish fake news of yours? You'd think if true you'd be HAPPY because cutting down on people is cutting down on global pollution! Saving the environment! Odd that your map shows most of the shootings occurring in mainly liberal big city domains! And yet still no proof that disarming law-abiding people would change any of this. And still no proof that banning all military style looking rifles would make a dent.

Oddly enough, the very people who want to take all our guns surround themselves with guns in locked, gated communities!

You SAY you're all for cutting down in murder and killing.

 

[sealybobo]

Your own ******* article explains why the ban didn't work. LOOPHOLES!!! Close the mother ******* loopholes

How, exactly, do you plan to do that?
What specific language would you use?

The lawmakers will do it. And the gun lobbyists will not have a seat at the table.

Gun grabbers shouldn't either.

NO ONE should be at the table until they exhibit in depth knowledge on guns and history of them COUPLED WITH research into the violence itself.

Guns are nt the problem in as much as the violent society we are creating.

True but we should close all loopholes, do background checks, and maybe even limit these AR15's to 10 round magazines.

Just saying.

And remember, I love my guns too. I don't want anyone taking my guns either. But I was happy when I went to Dunhams and tried to buy my Ruger 450 Bushmaster and they said I was not able to take the gun home that day. It would take 3-30 days. Why? I don't know. Could it be the violence in my history that came up when they did a search on me? I was never convicted of anything but maybe they saw I was arrested for assault 10 years ago. I was justified and was standing my ground/defending myself and got off but maybe they saw that. Could it be the time I beat the shit out of my neighbor but he never pressed charges? I'm sure that incident is on my record even though I was never charged. Could it be because 4 years ago I had a medical marijuana card? Even though it's legal in Michigan it's still a federal crime.

I was really worried they would not let me buy a gun because I smoke pot.

Anyways, about 15 days later Dunhams called and said I could pick up my gun. They must have done a good background check on me. I didn't mind. I hope they do that for everyone from now on.

 

[sealybobo]

Despite only accounting for five percent of the global population, an astounding 31 percent of the world's mass shootings occur in the U.S. This year, there have been more mass shootings — defined as incidents in which four or more victims are shot — than days in the calendar year. According to ShootingTracker.com, which tracks deaths by guns in America, the U.S. has seen 355 mass shootings so far in 2015.

More rubbish fake news of yours? You'd think if true you'd be HAPPY because cutting down on people is cutting down on global pollution! Saving the environment! Odd that your map shows most of the shootings occurring in mainly liberal big city domains! And yet still no proof that disarming law-abiding people would change any of this. And still no proof that banning all military style looking rifles would make a dent.

Oddly enough, the very people who want to take all our guns surround themselves with guns in locked, gated communities!

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You SAY you're all for cutting down in murder and killing.


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So do you want every person in the crowd holding an AR15?

 

[sealybobo]

Despite only accounting for five percent of the global population, an astounding 31 percent of the world's mass shootings occur in the U.S. This year, there have been more mass shootings — defined as incidents in which four or more victims are shot — than days in the calendar year. According to ShootingTracker.com, which tracks deaths by guns in America, the U.S. has seen 355 mass shootings so far in 2015.

More rubbish fake news of yours? You'd think if true you'd be HAPPY because cutting down on people is cutting down on global pollution! Saving the environment! Odd that your map shows most of the shootings occurring in mainly liberal big city domains! And yet still no proof that disarming law-abiding people would change any of this. And still no proof that banning all military style looking rifles would make a dent.

Oddly enough, the very people who want to take all our guns surround themselves with guns in locked, gated communities!

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Please with the cities that have strict gun laws. That's so when they catch a criminal they can toss the book at them.

You act like guns can't be shipped into these cities from your safe white neighborhoods. The same way white people ship drugs into the ghettos of America. Don't get me started.

 

[toobfreak]

Despite only accounting for five percent of the global population, an astounding 31 percent of the world's mass shootings occur in the U.S. This year, there have been more mass shootings — defined as incidents in which four or more victims are shot — than days in the calendar year. According to ShootingTracker.com, which tracks deaths by guns in America, the U.S. has seen 355 mass shootings so far in 2015.

More rubbish fake news of yours? You'd think if true you'd be HAPPY because cutting down on people is cutting down on global pollution! Saving the environment! Odd that your map shows most of the shootings occurring in mainly liberal big city domains! And yet still no proof that disarming law-abiding people would change any of this. And still no proof that banning all military style looking rifles would make a dent.

Oddly enough, the very people who want to take all our guns surround themselves with guns in locked, gated communities!

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You SAY you're all for cutting down in murder and killing.


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So do you want every person in the crowd holding an AR15?

Typical black and white idiot leftist all or nothing extremist lunacy thinking. Too funny.