Hegseth Will Investigate Afghanistan Withdrawl

[ColonelAngus]

Did the board format change, or did the LSD not wear off yet?

 

[elektra]

3. The United States will seek economic cooperation for reconstruction with the new post settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations,

The intra-Afghan dialogue never happened.
There never was a post settlement Afghan Islamic government.

You may not realize this but your source is missing a lot of the document.
This one is from the state department

 

[Moonglow]

The intra-Afghan dialogue never happened.
There never was a post settlement Afghan Islamic government.

You may not realize this but your source is missing a lot of the document.
This one is from the state department
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We are not supposed to post the entire article....

 

[JoeB131]

Hegseth is on the right track. Finally transparency and justice for the Unuted States Marines that the democrats sent to die.

Our Marines could not defend themselves, why! We will finally get answers

Exclusive: Hegseth Has Tapped Investigators for Afghanistan Withdrawal

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Breitbart News that he has chosen investigators who will look into the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.

www.breitbart.com

“We’ve already identified folks that’ll be in charge of that full investigation inside the Pentagon,” Hegseth said in the interview Thursday.

“I don’t have a timeframe on it. Sadly, we’ve already waited two-and-a-half years, three years since what occurred. I don’t want to wait longer, but I always want to get it right,” he said.

FLASHBACK — Gen. Mark Milley Admits Joe Biden’s Afghanistan Evacuation a “Strategic Failure”:

Hegseth isn't going to last that long before he screws up and gets offered as a scapegoat.

Here's what went wrong in Afghanistan.

We spent 20 years trying to make them into something they weren't.

 

[pknopp]

Hegseth isn't going to last that long before he screws up and gets offered as a scapegoat.

Here's what went wrong in Afghanistan.

We spent 20 years trying to make them into something they weren't.

Yes, we should have left in 2002.

 

[elektra]

We are not supposed to post the entire article....

So you do understand there was to be another meeting and a final negotiation that never happened. I ask because it seemed to me that you do not know this.

 

[elektra]

Hegseth isn't going to last that long before he screws up and gets offered as a scapegoat.

Here's what went wrong in Afghanistan.

We spent 20 years trying to make them into something they weren't.

No we didn't, we spent 20 years appeasing the status quo in Afghanistan. Appeasement never works.

 

[JoeB131]

The intra-Afghan dialogue never happened.
There never was a post settlement Afghan Islamic government.

You may not realize this but your source is missing a lot of the document.
This one is from the state department

Here's the problem.

Trump signed an agreement with the Taliban that pretty much conceded the country to them, and Biden was stuck with that agreement.

As soon as the warlords who supported our Quising Government realized the checks were going to stop coming, they switched to the Taliban.

Our biggest mistake was inserting ourselves into a 40 year long Civil War in Afghanistan.

Never star in someone else's soap opera.

 

[pknopp]

So you do understand there was to be another meeting and a final negotiation that never happened. I ask because it seemed to me that you do not know this.

There was nothing to negotiate but we should have continued to negotiate with the "terrorists"?

 

[JoeB131]

No we didn't, we spent 20 years appeasing the status quo in Afghanistan. Appeasement never works.

Actually, we ignored reality. Most Afghans had no problem with the Taliban or what they were trying to do. The foolishness was thinking we could turn them into a western democracy.

 

[Moonglow]

So you do understand there was to be another meeting and a final negotiation that never happened. I ask because it seemed to me that you do not know this.

No, I didn't know they were going to have a second meeting. I told them in 2001 they we invading the wrong country and Afghanistan was a lark.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Trump had 4 years to do better. He like Obama before him didn't have the balls to do the right thing.

This was one of the few things Biden did that was correct.

Trump now setting up Afghanistan 2.0. They literally cut Ukraine out of the peace talks. What?

 

[Moonglow]

Actually, we ignored reality. Most Afghans had no problem with the Taliban or what they were trying to do. The foolishness was thinking we could turn them into a western democracy.

The last twenty superpowers have had to find that out the hard way.

 

[pknopp]

Trump now setting up Afghanistan 2.0. They literally cut Ukraine out of the peace talks. What?

We should simply cut and run. If Trump gets us out of Ukraine I'll give him credit no matter how it's done just the same as I give Biden (or whoever actually did it) credit for getting us out of Afghanistan.

 

[elektra]

We spent 20 years trying to make them into something they werent

This sounds like you are saying they are not people?
Is this what the entire democrat party thinks.

 

[elektra]

Actually, we ignored reality. Most Afghans had no problem with the Taliban or what they were trying to do. The foolishness was thinking we could turn them into a western democracy.

Most Afghans? You don't know and can't know. You are saying most people in Afghanistan don't want freedom.

I can guarantee the cute 11 year old boys in Afghanistan have a huge problem being abused sexually by old Afghanistan men.

The women, you believe want no education or freedom.

Do you believe the 11 year old girls want to be sold as brides?

 

[elektra]

This was one of the few things Biden did that was correct

Hegseth is conducting the investigation to determine if what Biden and the Democrats did was correct.

 

[pknopp]

Hegseth is conducting the investigation to determine if what Biden and the Democrats did was correct.

It was.

 

[elektra]

The last twenty superpowers have had to find that out the hard way.

The last twenty superpowers all have something in common, they left before educating the people.

 

[DGS49]

The Afghanistan withdrawal is a good example of the President vs military dynamic. ALL of the cognizant "generals" told Biden this was a foolish thing to do, but he did it anyway. Then, when the orders were issued, the generals fell in line.

But this same dynamic exists when Presidents (and Secretaries of Defense) do other shit that "the generals" know is stupid shit. Once they have their orders (e.g., DEI) they run with them, even if every fucking one of them knows it's stupid, because to do otherwise would impact their Officer Efficiency Reports - something that no career officer will ever risk.

Don't blame the generals for the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. This is the classic case where "...just following orders..." is a valid defense.