Zone1 Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God

[hobelim]

So it isn't a surprise that you deny the real presence either

The real presence of Jesus is in his WORDS. The bread of life, manna from heaven, that became "the flesh of Jesus" represents the body of his teaching on how to understand and comply with the Law that fulfills the promise of life for all who eat his flesh, accept his teaching, and drink his blood, act on it.

Life is in the blood in the doing.

The blood you drink is a curse under the appearance of a cup of wine dummy.

 

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I did point it out detective.

After Jesus said to the disciples that remained that "flesh" was a metaphor for his teaching, "MY WORDS are both Spirit and life", he asked if they would leave him too to which Simon Peter replied, "Lord to whom shall we go? YOUR WORDS ARE WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE. We have faith and know that you are the Holy One of God." John 6:68

Try again.

You are ignoring the entire narrative, every other passage which discusses his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood and the first Christians practicing the real presence of Christ.

 

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The real presence of Jesus is in his WORDS. The bread of life, manna from heaven, that became "the flesh of Jesus" represents the body of his teaching about how to understand and comply with the Law that fulfills the promise of life for all who eat his flesh, accept his teaching, and drink his blood, act on it. Life is in the blood in the doing.

The blood you drink is a curse under the appearance of a cup of wine dummy.

No. The real presence is how we suffer in his death and rise in his resurrection.

 

[hobelim]

You are ignoring the entire narrative, every other passage which discusses his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood and the first Christians practicing the real presence of Christ.

The real presence of Christ is in his words. Any bread made by human hands you just eat and shit out your ass.

The Body of Christ is the body of his teaching which cannot be made by human hands anymore than divine providence can be made by human hands, handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food.

 

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The real presence of Christ is in his words. Any bread made by human hands you just eat and shit out your ass.

The Body of Christ is the body of his teaching which cannot be made by human hands anymore than divine providence can be made by human hands, handed out and eaten like a cheap snack food.

You lack faith in Jesus. You don't believe he was resurrected. You don't believe he is God. But none of that is a surprise because you can't even give thanks or praise to God.

 

[hobelim]

No. The real presence is how we suffer in his death and rise in his resurrection.

WE again? Sheesh! Okey dokey. To me it sounds like a stupid and irrational belief but that's just me.

If you had risen you would not be doing exactly what God has promised results in "the death" a curse you so perfectly display.

 

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WE again? Sheesh! Okey dokey. To me it sounds like a stupid and irrational belief but that's just me.

If you had risen you would not be doing exactly what God has promised results in "the death" a curse you so perfectly display.

Anyone who has faith that Jesus can manifest his presence into the host is we.

 

[irosie91]

I'm talking about you are incapable of praising God because you are a fake. You don't believe in God or worship God. You have created a trojan horse to attack Christianity and Christians. Any person with half a brain who has read your posts for a long enough period will see it.

So, would you like to praise God and give God thanks?

hobie has an interesting and IMAGINATIVE "mishnah" on the Torah---to wit---an
interpretation . It (his interpretation) acts as a bridge between jewish ethos and
christian ethos. ----weekend coffee table conversation

 

[hobelim]

You don't believe he is God.

You bring the name of Jesus into disrepute among intelligent people by perpetuating the lie of his enemies that Jesus claimed to be God which even in the first century, just like it is today, would make him insane. Mentally ill.

"Go and tell my brothers that I am ascending to my Father and their Father; MY GOD AND THEIR GOD."

By saying his God is their God Jesus eliminated any possibility that he thought of himself as or claimed to be God

That's the way the cookie crumbles.

 

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If you had risen you would not be doing exactly what God has promised results in "the death" a curse you so perfectly display.

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I can even tolerate your nonsense, disrespect, rudeness and hatred for Christians and Christianity. You are the one behaving as if he were cursed.

 

[hobelim]

Anyone who has faith that Jesus can manifest his presence into the host is we.

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

By believing the lie that God is edible you have been consumed by a self negating multiplicity that is slowly disintegrating into nothingness.

 

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You bring the name of Jesus into disrepute among intelligent people by perpetuating the lie of his enemies that Jesus claimed to be God which even in the first century, just like it is today, would make him insane. Mentally ill.

"Go and tell my brothers that I am ascending to my Father and their Father; MY GOD AND THEIR GOD."

By saying his God is their God Jesus eliminated any possibility that he thought of himself as or claimed to be God

That's the way the cookie crumbles.

24,000 written manuscripts, a resurrection, non-Christian historians, the first Christians worshipping Jesus as God and the birth of a global religion the likes of which have never been seen before says otherwise. Your one off, one of a kind, batshit crazy beliefs, with zero evidence can never compete with reality.

 

[ding]

I will tell you something. Try to hear.

By believing the lie that God is edible you have been consumed by a self negating multiplicity that is slowly disintegrating into nothingness.

It is you that is the one who is lying. I have 24,000 written manuscripts, a resurrection, non-Christian historians, the first Christians worshipping Jesus as God and the birth of a global religion the likes of which have never been seen before as my reason and evidence for my beliefs.

You have absolutely nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

 

[hobelim]

24,000 written manuscripts, a resurrection, non-Christian historians, the first Christians worshipping Jesus as God and the birth of a global religion the likes of which have never been seen before says otherwise.

I don't care that was written or misunderstood by however many people. The truth remains; there has never been and never will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence.

Your one off, one of a kind, batshit crazy beliefs, with zero evidence can never compete with reality.

I know.

Its so crazy for me to make sense of the nutty things that Jesus said in the only way that conforms to reality.

Woe is me!

 

[Meriweather]

The real presence of Jesus is in his WORDS. The bread of life that became the flesh of Jesus represents his teaching.

If some of Jesus' words are not correctly understood, then that person is automatically doomed, right?

 

[hobelim]

If some of Jesus' words are not correctly understood, then that person is automatically doomed, right?

Of course not. There are many instances where the disciples didn't understand a word of what Jesus said.

Some things come to fruition in the fullness of time. That's why Jesus forgave them in advance for their fears.

 

[Meriweather]

Of course not. There are many instances where the disciples didn't understand a word of what Jesus said.

Then why are you condemning those you don't believe correctly understand his words?

 

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I don't care that was written or misunderstood by however many people. The truth remains; there has never been and never will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence. I know. Its so crazy for me to make sense of the nutty things that Jesus said in the only way that conforms to reality. Woe is me!

24,000 written manuscripts, a resurrection, non-Christian historians, the first Christians worshipping Jesus as God and the birth of a global religion the likes of which have never been seen before says otherwise.

 

[hobelim]

Then why are you condemning those you don't believe correctly understand his words?

Its not me who is condemning anyone.

If the Bible is the truth, the very Word of God, then the practice of idolatry is a sin under penalty of death. Simple. God has made that judgment. God has condemned that practice as vile and degrading and I am in agreement.

You can't claim to believe in God and then do what God has forbidden without paying the price. There aren't enough eucharists in the world to eat that will spare you from the consequence for your choice to defy the Law.

God won't help you. Jesus won't help you. And I won't. No one can help anyone who refuses to help themselves. I have made it clear where wrong and right and judgment lie. How you respond to the TRUTH is all on you, sister.

Remember! Whenever someone was healed Jesus told them YOUR FAITH has made you whole. Where is yours?

 

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Its not me who is condemning anyone.

I can't believe you didn't implode from making that statement. Your disrespect, rudeness and hate in your posts are self evident.