Heat to soar to record levels in next 5 years.

[multivita-man]

It’s all fun and games.
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For the record, I do not disagree. The climate conferences are a sham. The people who organize them are shysters. There's a part of me that understands why some like you tell us to go fuck ourselves.

I also think these people are full of shit, but for different reasons. I think these are egomaniacs who like to appear in front of cameras, like to virtue signal, like to hear their voices, see their faces, and read their names in print.

But there are real problems. They pretend to understand them, and they do not. They simply use them to attention-whore themselves.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Phoenix is not experiencing "normal" heat.

https://www.axios.com/local/phoenix/2023/07/26/phoenix-heat-wave-record-breaking-temperatures-rain

I live here.

We have not broken any single day records. We have not gotten close to the all time high of 122.

What we have had is a streak of 110+ days that broke the record set in ........1974.

In fact we are barely supposed to hit 100 F tomorrow.

We just had rain the other night, so that counter has stopped.

The last two years, we've had lots of rain in Phoenix (and in the canyons up the Salt River to where they were releasing water from our reservoirs).

So, nobody here is saying much of anything. We see this as normal.

I am not sure about the reporting of heat related deaths. Last report was pretty low compared to past years. Most of these are homeless people who can't get out of the heat and have to sleep outside.

Every year we lose hikers in the Superstition Mountains. I have not heard of any this year, but we still have a lot of summer to go.

 

[multivita-man]

I live here.

Cool.

We have not broken any single day records. We have not gotten close to the all time high of 122.

A single day all-time high is a single day all-time high

What we have had is a streak of 110+ days that broke the record set in ........1974.

Which is actually worse - far worse - than a single all-time high.

So, nobody here is saying much of anything. We see this as normal.

Nah, I know people in PHX and it's not normal. That doesn't mean it's the apocalypse either, and I agree that sometimes the media can sensationalize things a bit, but what PHX is dealing with is not normal. Also worth pointing out that this is barely the beginning of El Nino 23-24, which could extend into next summer.

I am not sure about the reporting of heat related deaths. Last report was pretty low compared to past years. Most of these are homeless people who can't get out of the heat and have to sleep outside.

Heat-related deaths are very hard to quantify and are almost always under-reported initially.

I would agree with you that the shit has not completely hit the fan in PHX. If it does, this will become evident the same way it did with COVID: emergency rooms and mortuaries will overflow. Until then, it's just bad heat.

 

[Weatherman2020]

For the record, I do not disagree. The climate conferences are a sham. The people who organize them are shysters. There's a part of me that understands why some like you tell us to go fuck ourselves.

I also think these people are full of shit, but for different reasons. I think these are egomaniacs who like to appear in front of cameras, like to virtue signal, like to hear their voices, see their faces, and read their names in print.

But there are real problems. They pretend to understand them, and they do not. They simply use them to attention-whore themselves.

Not your place to disagree with scientists.

See how that works?

 

[multivita-man]

Not your place to disagree with scientists.

See how that works?

 

[Weatherman2020]

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Science being questioned is a good or bad thing?

 

[multivita-man]

Science being questioned is a good or bad thing?

If there's a credible, valid reason to question a theory or hypothesis, that's a good thing, but it's not a good thing if there's no basis for challenging it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

If there's a credible, valid reason to question a theory or hypothesis, that's a good thing, but it's not a good thing if there's no basis for challenging it.

How about the fact every scientist who’s predicted doom has been wrong and gets their income from making predictions?

 

[multivita-man]

How about the fact every scientist who’s predicted doom has been wrong and gets their income from making predictions?

Nah.

 

[EMH]

If there's a credible, valid reason to question a theory or hypothesis, that's a good thing, but it's not a good thing if there's no basis for challenging it.

So, if the theory is that increased atmospheric Co2 is warming Earth and oceans, why is the strongest cane decade on record the 1940s???

U.S. Hurricane Strikes by Decade

 

[multivita-man]

Science being questioned is a good or bad thing?

Hey look, you've got that Jew-hater fag EMH liking your post. Now you know you've hit the big time.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hey look, you've got that Jew-hater fag EMH liking your post. Now you know you've hit the big time.

Thread 'A Cold War Project Has Thrown CO2 Importance Up in the Air'
A Cold War Project Has Thrown CO2 Importance Up in the Air

 

[EMH]

Hey look, you've got that Jew-hater fag EMH liking your post. Now you know you've hit the big time.

Let's once again go over the questions you don't like and cannot answer.


Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?

Why is there ice age glacier on Greenland south of Arctic Circle, yet north of Arctic Circle on Alaska there is no such ice age glacier, but rather trees and moose?

If oceans have been warming and warming and warming, why is the strongest decade for canes still the 1940s?

You claim Antarctica is "melting" but cannot show any liquid water there.

And you surely do not want to debate your side's FUDGE JOB of the atmospheric satellite and balloon raw data which showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2?

Any idea how, during the past million years, Co2 froze Greenland and thawed North America at the same time?


LOL!!!

 

[EMH]

Hey look, you've got that Jew-hater fag EMH liking your post. Now you know you've hit the big time.

A credible valid question has been asked about "warming" oceans and canes.

Why can't you answer it...

LOL!!!

 

[ding]

You claim you speak the language, but you can't even read the fucking menu.

Says the guy who doesn’t understand the difference between an ice age and a glacial period within an ice age.

 

[ding]

If there's a credible, valid reason to question a theory or hypothesis, that's a good thing, but it's not a good thing if there's no basis for challenging it.

You mean like the planet cooling for millions of years with CO2 levels greater than 600 ppm?

 

[Crick]

Let's once again go over the questions you don't like and cannot answer.

I've answered all these stupid questions and so have others. You ignore the answers, probably because they don't reflect well on you personally.

Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?

Land.

Why is there ice age glacier on Greenland south of Arctic Circle, yet north of Arctic Circle on Alaska there is no such ice age glacier, but rather trees and moose?

There are glaciers in Alaska north and south of the Arctic Circle

If oceans have been warming and warming and warming, why is the strongest decade for canes still the 1940s?

They are called hurricanes. And they aren't.

Historical Atlantic Hurricane and Tropical Storm Records – Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

Historical Changes in Atlantic Hurricane and Tropical Storms Gabriel A. Vecchi and Thomas R. Knutson How well do we know the historical cyclone record? Observational records of tropical storm and hurricanes are essential in order to discern how climatic changes have influenced tropical storms...

www.gfdl.noaa.gov

Historical Atlantic Hurricane and Tropical Storm Records – Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory

Historical Changes in Atlantic Hurricane and Tropical Storms Gabriel A. Vecchi and Thomas R. Knutson How well do we know the historical cyclone record? Observational records of tropical storm and hurricanes are essential in order to discern how climatic changes have influenced tropical storms...

www.gfdl.noaa.gov

Climate Change Indicators: Tropical Cyclone Activity | US EPA

This indicator examines the frequency, intensity, and duration of hurricanes and other tropical storms in the Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean, and Gulf of Mexico.

www.epa.gov

You claim Antarctica is "melting" but cannot show any liquid water there.

Bullshit

Antarctica is leaking from the inside out

Scientists have discovered that Antarctica is melting from the inside out. They examine what this means for sea-level rise.

www.popsci.com

And you surely do not want to debate your side's FUDGE JOB of the atmospheric satellite and balloon raw data which showed NO WARMING in the atmosphere despite rising Co2?

I have attempted to debate your bullshit data on multiple occasions. YOU are the one who bails. "It's all fudge" is the ONLY thing we ever get from you. That's not a debate. That's you being an ignorant, cowardly asshole.

Any idea how, during the past million years, Co2 froze Greenland and thawed North America at the same time?

CO2 didn't freeze anything.

Now if you ask us these stupid fucking questions ever again I'm going to send my grand daughter over to teach you some lessons you should have had a great long while ago. And she's not yet 2.

 

[EMH]

There are glaciers in Alaska north and south of the Arctic Circle

This is what crick is equating, a continent specific ice age with 7% of Earth ice on it, and a state straddling the same Arctic Circle line with 0.0something % of Earth ice JUST ON MOUNTAINS....

 

[EMH]

Bullshit

Antarctica is leaking from the inside out

Scientists have discovered that Antarctica is melting from the inside out. They examine what this means for sea-level rise.

www.popsci.com

LOL!!!


And WHERE is this photo from???


Antarctica is melting from the inside out??? ??? ?????

So what the Co2 fraud is now claiming is that AA is "melting" but the side of AA ice adjacent to WHERE THE CO2 is, IN THE ATMOSPHERE, is NOT MELTING...


LMFAO!!!!


Just how desperate and pathetic are these people.....

 

[Likkmee]

Everyone could have seen this coming.

The News​

Global temperatures are likely to soar to record highs over the next five years, driven by human-caused warming and a climate pattern known as El Niño, forecasters at the World Meteorological Organization said on Wednesday.

The record for Earth’s hottest year was set in 2016. There is a 98 percent chance that at least one of the next five years will exceed that, the forecasters said, while the average from 2023 to ’27 will almost certainly be the warmest for a five-year period ever recorded.

Why It Matters: Every fraction of a degree brings new risks.​

Even small increases in warming can exacerbate the dangers from heat waves, wildfires, drought and other calamities, scientists say. Elevated global temperatures in 2021 helped fuel a heat wave in the Pacific Northwest that shattered local records and killed hundreds of people.

El Niño conditions can cause further turmoil by shifting global precipitation patterns. The meteorological organization said it expected increased summer rainfall over the next five years in places like Northern Europe and the Sahel in sub-Saharan Africa and reduced rainfall in the Amazon and parts of Australia.

The organization reported that there is also a two thirds chance that one of the next five years could be 1.5 degrees Celsius, or 2.7 degrees Fahrenheit, hotter than the 19th-century average.

That does not mean that the world will have officially breached the aspirational goal in the Paris climate agreement of holding global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius. When scientists talk about that temperature goal, they generally mean a longer-term average over, say, two decades in order to root out the influence of natural variability.

Many world leaders have insisted on the 1.5-degree limit to keep the risks of climate change to tolerable levels. But nations have delayed so long in making the monumental changes necessary to achieve this goal, such as drastically cutting fossil-fuel emissions, that scientists now think the world will probably exceed that threshold around the early 2030s.

Background: La Niña, a cooling influence, is on the way out.​

Global average temperatures have already increased roughly 1.1 degrees Celsius since the 19th century, largely because humans keep burning fossil fuels and pumping heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

But while that overall upward trend is clear, global temperatures can bounce up and down a bit from year to year because of natural variability. For instance, a cyclical phenomenon in the Pacific Ocean, the El Niño-Southern Oscillation, causes year-to-year fluctuations by shifting heat in and out of deeper ocean layers. Global surface temperatures tend to be somewhat cooler during La Niña years and somewhat hotter during El Niño years.

The last record hot year, 2016, was an El Niño year. By contrast, La Niña conditions have dominated for much of the past three years: while they’ve been unusually warm, they were still slightly below 2016 levels. Now, scientists are expecting El Niño conditions to return later this summer. When combined with steadily rising levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, that will most likely cause temperatures to accelerate to new highs.

Heat Will Likely Soar to Record Levels in Next 5 Years, New Analysis Says (Published 2023)

The World Meteorological Organization forecast “far-reaching repercussions for health, food security, water management and the environment.”

www.nytimes.com

I'm gonna take my snowmobiles to Costa Rica. When those assholes say something, I assume the opposite to come in.