Have you considered what life will be like in post-democracy America?

[Woodznutz]

I’d like to hear from Sirius posters and learn what they think.

You can't be Sirius.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You can't be Sirius.

LoL!

Stupid iPhone. They must deliberatly make the speech to text only recognize the voices of young-uns.

 

[BackAgain]

Some brilliant minds contend that due to Democrat Party perfidy, we are already in a post Constitutional America.

 

[Billo_Really]

Caitlyn has proved she’s worth the hype. She has elevated the sport. If she’s on and I’m aware of it, I watch her play.

Blacks get so mad when a white does what they usually do but the white gets all the flowers.

Or we adopt their slang thus ruining it

She reminds me of Magic!

 

[Skylar]

First, when I say “democracy “I mean in the loose sense that we talk about it here in the United States, where we have a representative republic. By “democracy “I mean that the people get to make the decisions that the constitution allows us to make by vote.

This principle took a big hit when the leaders and senior advisors of the Democratic Party decided to overthrow the elected president and elected nominee for a second term.

Some of us may think that Trump winning the general election is the hope for democracy. Maybe. But there are several possibilities.

One Trump could definitely lose. nearly any mainstream Republican could easily be Kamala Harris. But with the media being so hysterical over Trump, they will pull out all stops and there is no telling what they will come up with between now and November.

Trump could win and not be able to accomplish the deep cleaning of the executive branch that would need to happen in order for democracy to have a chance to take route again. Trump could win and simply not live long enough to accomplish that. Trump could win, deep, clean the executive branch, but still be defeated by political parties, willing to go around voters as the Democrats did this time and courts willing to allow them to do it.

So… think about what life will be like.I have some ideas, but I’d rather this thread be an open discussion of how we would live when political parties and not voters choose our leaders.

Because my guess is that if Trump is not able to bring about this return to democracy, the Republican party will quickly jump on board with making the choices themselves. After all their senior leader ship was never happy with the voters choosing Trump in the first place.

I’d like to hear from Sirius posters and learn what they think.

Why would Trump, a man who calls for the termination of the constitution, who insists that his supporters won't ever have to vote again if he's reelected, who insists he should just be appointed president, whose lawyers have argued in court that he can have his political rivals assassinated as president, who tried to overturn a lawful election, who sent his supporters to the capitol and watched TV for 3 hours while they attacked it....

........be the 'hope for democracy'.

I don't think that means what you think that means.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm glad you know they don't care about you.

The inflation and open-borders policies are helping you, how?

They're fixing inflation. Blame Trump for inflation and blame him for not letting Biden have the win by basically telling Mike Johnson to pass the bill he and Biden were going to pass. Which was to do exactly what Trump was doing as president that kept the number of crossings low.

So Trump wouldn't let Biden do what Trump was doing.

You don't think Trump cares about you? At least you know the truth.

 

[Seymour Flops]

They're fixing inflation. Blame Trump for inflation and blame him for not letting Biden have the win by basically telling Mike Johnson to pass the bill he and Biden were going to pass. Which was to do exactly what Trump was doing as president that kept the number of crossings low.

So Trump wouldn't let Biden do what Trump was doing.

You don't think Trump cares about you? At least you know the truth.

I doubt any politician cares more about people than votes. Trump made a joke about it. It’s funny because utterly humorless people get so mad at jokes.

No idea what you mean by Trump preventing Biden from doing what Trump did.

Trump cares about winning. His idea of winning is securing the border, lowering taxes, jobs for Americans and low inflation.

So, yes. I hope he wins.

EDIT: Oh wait. You mean that bill that allowed four thousand, nine hundred ninety nine people per day to come into our country without the COVID vaccine or any other vetting? Thus writing Biden’s dereliction of duty into law?

If Trump killed that, he deserves praise.

 

[sealybobo]

I doubt any politician cares more about people than votes. Trump made a joke about it. It’s funny because utterly humorless people get so mad at jokes.

No idea what you mean by Trump preventing Biden from doing what Trump did.

Trump cares about winning. His idea of winning is securing the border, lowering taxes, jobs for Americans and low inflation.

So, yes. I hope he wins.

EDIT: Oh wait. You mean that bill that allowed four thousand, nine hundred ninety nine people per day to come into our country without the COVID vaccine or any other vetting?

If Trump killed that, he deserves praise.

I heard yesterday Biden and Mike Johnson were going to pass a law that said we will do what Trump did in 2019 to keep asylum numbers down. Down to a manageable number. Biden was just going to do what Trump did. Trump shut it down because Biden has had too many wins already.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I heard yesterday Biden and Mike Johnson were going to pass a law that said we will do what Trump did in 2019 to keep asylum numbers down. Down to a manageable number. Biden was just going to do what Trump did. Trump shut it down because Biden has had too many wins already.

Whatever that law you heard about is, Trump did not have it and he did exactly what Trump did in 2019.

No new laws are needed. We need a president who will enforce existing law, not “interpret” them to mean the opposite.

 

[sealybobo]

Whatever that law you heard about is, Trump did not have it and he did exactly what Trump did in 2019.

No new laws are needed. We need a president who will enforce existing law, not “interpret” them to mean the opposite.

Well whatever that means, I believe Trump had the number of people flooding the border down to a manageable number. And that's the number Biden and Mike Johnson were going to accomplish with a bill and Trump put it on the cabosh.

You want to give the president too much power here.

How about the Democratic President having power over the environment? Can he run the EPA? You cherry pickers.

 

[PeterPilot]

Actually we live in a Constitutional Republic. This nation wasn't founded on Democracy, but rather being a Republic based on the Constitution.

Yes, I get that point and agree as to semantics. But in reality, the US Constitution is not worth the paper it's written on. Our elected officials stand in line to urinate on the document and its principles. Shall we continue the discussion? I hope so.

 

[Redfish]

Why would Trump, a man who calls for the termination of the constitution, who insists that his supporters won't ever have to vote again if he's reelected, who insists he should just be appointed president, whose lawyers have argued in court that he can have his political rivals assassinated as president, who tried to overturn a lawful election, who sent his supporters to the capitol and watched TV for 3 hours while they attacked it....

........be the 'hope for democracy'.

I don't think that means what you think that means.

He said none of those things, you are one of the convenient idiots that the dems have indoctrinated, just like the Nazis of 1930s Germany or the Chinese under Mao. History repeats itself and you libs are cheering for the end of the USA

 

[Redfish]

Yes, I get that point and agree as to semantics. But in reality, the US Constitution is not worth the paper it's written on. Our elected officials stand in line to urinate on the document and its principles. Shall we continue the discussion? I hope so.

We need a major housecleaning in DC if this nation is to survive. Kamala won't and can't do that, Trump has a much better chance to clean it up because he is an outsider to the DC cabal

 

[Blaster]

Our country seems to be headed toward socialism much like many European countries.

 

[sealybobo]

Whatever that law you heard about is, Trump did not have it and he did exactly what Trump did in 2019.

No new laws are needed. We need a president who will enforce existing law, not “interpret” them to mean the opposite.

Perfect example of you guys cherry picking what is and isn't "constitutional"

Trump Again Calls For Jail Time For Burning American Flag​

"They say, 'Sir, that’s unconstitutional,'" the former president said. "We’ll make it constitutional.”

 

[Redfish]

Our country seems to be headed toward socialism much like many European countries.

yes, and it will end up in chaos as they have.

 

[Dr.Know]

what scares me is how so many people have been brainwashed by the Deep State to hate Trump or any other patriotic Nationalist.

We are witnessing the push for the New World Order the Elite have been planning for 250 years and the majority of people think that Life will return to like it was before their Covid deception.

 

[Skylar]

He said none of those things, you are one of the convenient idiots that the dems have indoctrinated, just like the Nazis of 1930s Germany or the Chinese under Mao. History repeats itself and you libs are cheering for the end of the USA

Oh, I understand now. You think Trump is the 'hope of democracy', because you're in straight up denial. You pretend that Trump never called for the termination of the constituition

He did.

"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

You like to play pretend that he didn't tell his supporters that they wouldn't need to vote again if he was reelected

"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time – you won’t have to do it any more,” the Republican former president said on Friday night at a rally hosted in West Palm Beach, Florida, by the far-right Christian advocacy group Turning Point Action.

“You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote any more, my beautiful Christians"

Trump tells supporters they won’t have to vote in the future: ‘It’ll be fixed!’

Former president implores Christian supporters to vote ‘just this time ... in four years, you don’t have to vote again’

www.theguardian.com

He did.

And now Trump is insisting he wants to imprison anyone who expresses their 1st amendment rights by burning a flag. So much for 'free speech' y'all give empty lip service to.

Now I can wrap my head around why you would play pretend that none of this would ever happen. You're in obvious denial. But why would I or any other rational person ignore what you do?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Oh, I understand now. You think Trump is the 'hope of democracy', because you're in straight up denial. You pretend that Trump never called for the termination of the constituition

He did.

"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

You like to play pretend that he didn't tell his supporters that they wouldn't need to vote again if he was reelected

"Christians, get out and vote! Just this time – you won’t have to do it any more,” the Republican former president said on Friday night at a rally hosted in West Palm Beach, Florida, by the far-right Christian advocacy group Turning Point Action.

“You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote any more, my beautiful Christians"

Trump tells supporters they won’t have to vote in the future: ‘It’ll be fixed!’

Former president implores Christian supporters to vote ‘just this time ... in four years, you don’t have to vote again’

www.theguardian.com

He did.

And now Trump is insisting he wants to imprison anyone who expresses their 1st amendment rights by burning a flag. So much for 'free speech' y'all give empty lip service to.

Now I can wrap my head around why you would play pretend that none of this would ever happen. You're in obvious denial. But why would I or any other rational person ignore what you do?

Unlike you, we Trump supporters have the intelligence to understand that taking jokes, sarcasm, and hyperbole as serious factual claims only makes a person seem foolish and with lacking social intelligence.

 

[Skylar]

Unlike you, we Trump supporters have the intelligence to understand that taking jokes, sarcasm, and hyperbole as serious factual claims only makes a person seem foolish and with lacking social intelligence.

This was all caps 'sarcasm'?

"Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.."

You're really not making a strong pitch for the intelligence of Trump supporters.

Smiling.....remember, your ilk were the one's that gobbled Trump's claims about AI crowd. But tell me about all that 'understanding'.