Zone1 Have we lost The Bible Story?

[Donald H]

Socialism is evil because it destroys the spirit of man.

Socialist policies are a necessary part of a capitalist system. Can you think of those that are practiced by your own government, and those that are lacking?

That's what the attempted coup was all about and the reason why the election of 2020 was stolen.

 

[Donald H]

Doesn't interest me in the least. I believe in God, the Creator of heaven and earth. I haven't a clue as to how God went about creating, and I don't see why you think that what happened in the far distant pass should be any more important to me than knowing the names of all creatures in the sea.

You've demonstrated an interest in discussion in the past my friend.

We all have an active interest in what happened in the past concerning creation. I just choose to add evolution to these discussions. I just don't accept orders to keep it separate from creation.

I have to credit you with being very concerned about how creation could have come about, because you are by far the most informed about creation, as told by Genesis, is not a part of the actual literally true story. Hardly anyone else who takes part on this board have even heard of Genesis being mythical rhetoric.

 

[Donald H]

It's not a matter of doctrine or dogma. It's just an observation stated in the Bible. Lots of good people in the world who haven't been called by God into the church. In fact, God seems to call those who need a positive change in their lives most often. Many high and mighty people are confounded by this.

Those who need a change in their lives are the most likely to seek the god. Those who are emotionally stable are much less likely.

And too, young children haven't reached the point of emotional stability that can stand in the face of a priest's lies.

The children are subjected to being asked to accept Genesis as literally true. Just as all Catholics accepted it as true, as late as the 50's. And even now, a majority of Catholics still accept it and allow their children to be taught lies.

 

[Donald H]

There is a whole Book--the most popular one in history--that details Christian theology. We don't have to accept anyone that slaps a label on whatever belief suits them and calls it "Christian". That's not even loving. It damns a lot of people to Hell.

Christianity is stalled in the process of trying to decide on what is written in the bibles, being literal fact or fiction.

Noah's ark and the flood? Even the most clever decide to run from having a discussion!

And the Pope takes flak from Americans for facing up to the truth!

 

[Woodznutz]

Those who need a change in their lives are the most likely to seek the god. Those who are emotionally stable are much less likely.

And too, young children haven't reached the point of emotional stability that can stand in the face of a priest's lies.

The children are subjected to being asked to accept Genesis as literally true. Just as all Catholics accepted it as true, as late as the 50's. And even now, a majority of Catholics still accept it and allow their children to be taught lies.

I agree. Most denominations are 'majoring in the minors' and have largely hijacked the Bible. The Bible is for reasonable adults, not children. In the hands of novices, it has become weaponized. Regarding the overview, atheists believe that nothing other than the physical/material is going on in the world. Religious people believe there is a great spiritual battle being waged between good and evil, with all of its nuances. A battle that, sadly, mankind is losing.

 

[alang1216]

Sue thinks I'm interfering with your repentance and thus condemning you to eternal damnation.

She is sweet but I don't need any help condemning me to eternal damnation.

 

[alang1216]

God blinded the Jews, and the same blindness affects many today. God will reveal himself to all eventually. God is picky about revealing himself.

Will those Jews be then condemned to eternal damnation? Doesn't seem very sporting of God.

 

[Woodznutz]

She is sweet but I don't need any help condemning me to eternal damnation.

So, you got this.

 

[alang1216]

Or like the Jews, you can "unsee" anything that you don't like.

They're not the only group who ignores information that doesn't conform to their faith.

 

[Woodznutz]

Will those Jews be then condemned to eternal damnation? Doesn't seem very sporting of God.

God has assured us that the Jews will be saved. Right now though they're being spanked for bad behavior and lack of belief. See Ezekiel 5.

 

[alang1216]

Ask alang1216 if anything I say affects him in any way. He has his mind made up and only God can change it. No one can come to Christ unless the Father draws him or her. People don't "talk" others into coming to Christ, although for their sake God may call them. I'm not as "importuning" as the widow on someone else's behalf.

I certainly enjoy reading what others think and believe but, I don't believe in the supernatural and nothing you've said so far has affected that.

 

[Woodznutz]

They're not the only group who ignores information that doesn't conform to their faith.

True that. The Bible, the holy book of both Jews and Christians, contains some godawful truths that neither will countenance.

 

[alang1216]

God has assured us that the Jews will be saved. Right now though they're being spanked for bad behavior and lack of belief. See Ezekiel 5.

The joke among Jews I know is that they are the chosen people but look what have they been chosen to endure. Oy vey.

 

[Woodznutz]

I certainly enjoy reading what others think and believe but, I don't believe in the supernatural and nothing you've said so far has affected that.

I knew that going in.

 

[Woodznutz]

The joke among Jews I know is that they are the chosen people but look what have they been chosen to endure. Oy vey.

God "chastises those he loves". He really loves the Jews.

 

[alang1216]

His theology is not Christian theology.

But I am not in the position to judge his salvation, whether he "believes in his heart". That's why I have not said "you're not a Christian", and I won't. I don't know that. I do know what he is espousing is wrong, Biblically and theologically.

As to your last point: I never understand why the Christian religion is supposed to just accept any theology that espouses itself as "Christian". People say they're "Christian" if they put up a Christmas tree, and that's the most harmless example. People say they're Christian if they believe Jesus and Satan are spirit-brothers (Mormon) or if their founder was a lying pedophile philanderer (Mormon).

There is a whole Book--the most popular one in history--that details Christian theology. We don't have to accept anyone that slaps a label on whatever belief suits them and calls it "Christian". That's not even loving. It damns a lot of people to Hell.

There have always been many Christian theologies. Who is to say which is the correct one?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don't profess to know what God's judgment on anyone will be. I do believe that God will call alang1216 eventually. Nothing I say will change that.

And offer him an extended warranty on his vehicle?

 

[alang1216]

God "chastises those he loves". He really loves the Jews.

God might, Christians, not so much.

 

[alang1216]

And offer him an extended warranty on his vehicle?

No need, I have a mechanic who is great with the laying on of hands.

 

[Woodznutz]

There have always been many Christian theologies. Who is to say which is the correct one?

Many things aren't to be revealed until the end time, so theology is an evolving revelation. What is 'holy writ' today may not be tomorrow.