Has the United States surrendered to anthropogenic climate change?

[Billiejeens]

The science deniers are especially pissy because of the overwhelming, data-based scientific evidence against which their irrational, faith-based, ideological dogma is so blatantly feeble.

nope
Sorry Greta

 

[schmidlap]

Apparently, ideologues who deny that spewing millions of tonnes of industrial greenhouse gases into the atmosphere impacts the atmosphere have not concocted any rational explanation why it wouldn't.

That's hardly surprising.

It's much like hidebound Xtian fundies denying much of geological science because the world has only been around since October 23, 4004 b.c.

As in the case of climatology, botany, cardiology,lepidopterology, and other scientific disciplines, I trust the actual scientists over non-scientific believers in denial.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Climate change will cost about $38 trillion a year by 2049.

What does it cost now? "38 trillion a year" would keep a lot of socialist governments afloat.

 

[schmidlap]

What does it cost now? "38 trillion a year" would keep a lot of socialist governments afloat.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/11/climate-crisis-cost-global-economies/

If anyone has an alternate, scientific estimate, please post it.

 

[marvin martian]

What are you personally doing to fight "tsunami"?

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) Sixth Assessment Report: “It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land. Widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.”

Is there a reputable scientific body anywhere on earth whose data and analysis has concluded otherwise?

What other scientific disciplines have reached such an overwhelming consensus of which you are in denial?

Do you believe all are engaged in a vast conspiracy to deceive you?

So you're not doing anything. That's what I thought.

 

[marvin martian]

Apparently, ideologues who deny that spewing millions of tonnes of industrial greenhouse gases into the atmosphere impacts the atmosphere have not concocted any rational explanation why it wouldn't.

That's hardly surprising.

It's much like hidebound Xtian fundies denying much of geological science because the world has only been around since October 23, 4004 b.c.

As in the case of climatology, botany, cardiology,lepidopterology, and other scientific disciplines, I trust the actual scientists over non-scientific believers in denial.

Why should I do anything, when you're not doing anything? And you believe in this crap!

lol

 

[Seymour Flops]

The consensus among the world’s climatologists, scientists in general, national and local governments, and savvy folks everywhere is that humans cannot endlessness poop into the heavens with impunity. The consequences are predictable, and are already exacting a hefty toll.

Nation's top climate science assessments removed from federal websites​

Trump… seeks to shut down the laboratory atop a peak in Hawaii where scientists have gathered the most conclusive evidence of human-caused climate change since the 1950s.​

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The Mauna Loa laboratory in Hawaii has measured atmospheric carbon dioxide, which — along with other planet-warming pollution — has led directly to climate change, driving sea level rise, supercharging weather and destroying food systems.​

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Trump’s budget proposal would also defund many other climate labs, including instrument sites comprising the US government’s greenhouse gas monitoring network, which stretches from northern Alaska to the South Pole.​

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But it’s the Mauna Loa laboratory that is the most prominent target of Trump’s climate ire, as measurements that began there in 1958 have steadily shown CO2’s upward march as human activities have emitted more and more of the planet-warming gas each year.​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-admin-tries-to-kill-the-most-indisputable-evidence-of-human-caused-climate-change-by-shuttering-observatory/ar-AA1HLdjJ?ocid=BingNewsVerp​

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Trump, monumentally ignorant concerning climatology, has been spewing his baseless crap for many years, and has presented no scientific evidence to support his ludicrous dogma:

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"The concept of global warming was created by and for the
Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

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"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop.
Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice.”

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“It's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, OK?”


The U.S. Under Trump: Alone in Its Climate Denial
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Climate change will cost about $38 trillion a year by 2049.​

True or false:

A well educated climate scientist who fully advocates for the AGW idea and demands that huge amounts of tax money and regulations be dedicated to fighting it can make a very nice living, while an equally well-educated climate scientist who tells us that there is not sufficient evidence for AGW to justify spending money in a futile attempt ot stop the climate from changing will not make any money and will be cancelled.

By this person:

 

[Billiejeens]

Apparently, ideologues who deny that spewing millions of tonnes of industrial greenhouse gases into the atmosphere impacts the atmosphere have not concocted any rational explanation why it wouldn't.

That's hardly surprising.

It's much like hidebound Xtian fundies denying much of geological science because the world has only been around since October 23, 4004 b.c.

nope
Sorry Greta

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/11/climate-crisis-cost-global-economies/

If anyone has an alternate, scientific estimate, please post it.

World economic forum -

Holy ****

 

[DonGlock26]

The consensus among the world’s climatologists, scientists in general, national and local governments, and savvy folks everywhere is that humans cannot endlessness poop into the heavens with impunity. The consequences are predictable, and are already exacting a hefty toll.

Nation's top climate science assessments removed from federal websites​

Trump… seeks to shut down the laboratory atop a peak in Hawaii where scientists have gathered the most conclusive evidence of human-caused climate change since the 1950s.​

​

The Mauna Loa laboratory in Hawaii has measured atmospheric carbon dioxide, which — along with other planet-warming pollution — has led directly to climate change, driving sea level rise, supercharging weather and destroying food systems.​

​

Trump’s budget proposal would also defund many other climate labs, including instrument sites comprising the US government’s greenhouse gas monitoring network, which stretches from northern Alaska to the South Pole.​

​

But it’s the Mauna Loa laboratory that is the most prominent target of Trump’s climate ire, as measurements that began there in 1958 have steadily shown CO2’s upward march as human activities have emitted more and more of the planet-warming gas each year.​

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-admin-tries-to-kill-the-most-indisputable-evidence-of-human-caused-climate-change-by-shuttering-observatory/ar-AA1HLdjJ?ocid=BingNewsVerp​

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Trump, monumentally ignorant concerning climatology, has been spewing his baseless crap for many years, and has presented no scientific evidence to support his ludicrous dogma:

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"The concept of global warming was created by and for the
Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

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"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop.
Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice.”

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“It's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, OK?”


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Climate change will cost about $38 trillion a year by 2049.​

Should we ban jets and automobiles now?

 

[Dekster]

NO worries. When hurricanes knock down billionaires' beach houses, they can get an even bigger tax deduction.

 

[schmidlap]

Yes, for all intensive purpose, the United States has surrendered to anthropogenic climate change, rejecting scientific expertise and embracing the ideological dogma of the deniers' media entertainers and politicians with no expertise in climatology.

 

[schmidlap]

True or false:

A well educated climate scientist who fully advocates for the AGW idea and demands that huge amounts of tax money and regulations be dedicated to fighting it can make a very nice living, while an equally well-educated climate scientist who tells us that there is not sufficient evidence for AGW to justify spending money in a futile attempt ot stop the climate from changing will not make any money and will be cancelled.

By this person:

Dirty fuel profiteers obviously have a powerful economic incentive to deny the scientific reality.

A climatologist who could compile data showing that spewing millions of tonnes of industrial waste gases into the atmosphere does not impact the atmosphere would be paid a fortune.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/11/climate-crisis-cost-global-economies/

That's nothing more than a CCnews letter, and it's almost 2 years old, its a poorly disguised scam. what was the first photograph a picture of schmap? do you know? the memo claims that costs have gone over the last 30 years and you cite it as science...good job

If anyone has an alternate, scientific estimate, please post it.

Your pretty loose with the term "scientific" there schmappy, the memo's letterhead doesn't even refer to themselves as "scientific", they pretend they are an economic forum,[of the world no less] not a scientific one...in any case ya run scams like this by claiming some outrageously high number as the price for letting folks/people/you breathe air again, then ya take/accept a number much lower say 5 trillion for example, and then you claim ya did the best ya could under the circumstances while walking away with the vault, [most likely laughing]...

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Yes, for all intensive purpose, the United States has surrendered to anthropogenic climate change, rejecting scientific expertise and embracing the ideological dogma of the deniers' media entertainers and politicians with no expertise in climatology.

TRANSLATION: "America is loaded and we're coming for it."

 

[Billiejeens]

Dirty fuel profiteers obviously have a powerful economic incentive to deny the scientific reality.

A climatologist who could compile data showing that spewing millions of tonnes of industrial waste gases into the atmosphere does not impact the atmosphere would be paid a fortune.

That 99% of actual scientists.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

It's obvious that there are those who are in denial of the scientific consensus, despite their impotence in concocting scientific data to refute it.

Attempts to make them aware of the climatological reality, even in the face of its ongoing manifestation, is futile.

Please post the list of “96% of scientists agree “ so we can laugh at it again.

 

[drudge X]

What's laughable is every time leftists declare war on global warming, Elon Musk gets richer. War on global warming means raising energy and food prices. The cost for appliances also goes up. Green appliances that are certified by the government are garbage. Low flow toilets? Those are full of shit literally speaking. Gotta flush two to three times. Imagine 1,000,000 households having to do that. Washers using minimal amount of water are garbage. Gotta rewash because detergent residue won't rinse out with minimal amount of water. How many gallons of water wasted? Every products with the certified climate friendly are costly. The average Joes and Janes are paying the price. No wonder majority of Americans ranked global warming near bottom on their list of priorities.

 

[schmidlap]

The current regime wants to hide the scientific reality from the public.

...Websites for the national assessments and the U.S. Global Change Research Program were down Monday and Tuesday with no links, notes or referrals elsewhere. The White House, which was responsible for the assessments, said the information will be housed within NASA to comply with the law, but gave no further details.Websites that displayed legally mandated U.S. national climate assessments seem to have disappeared, making it harder for state and local governments and the public to learn what to expect in their backyards from a warming world​

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Searches for the assessments on NASA websites did not turn them up. NASA did not respond to requests for information. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which coordinated the information in the assessments, did not respond to repeated inquiries.​

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[Seymour Flops]

Dirty fuel profiteers obviously have a powerful economic incentive to deny the scientific reality.

A climatologist who could compile data showing that spewing millions of tonnes of industrial waste gases into the atmosphere does not impact the atmosphere would be paid a fortune.

That 99% of actual scientists.

What Billiejeens said.

There are plenty of scientistes, including climate scientistes, who have told us that the evidence is lacking for man caused global warming, climate change, or whatever the latest name of the fad is.

But they are cancelled by profiteering paid researcheres who get grantes from governmentes eager to use AGW as an excuse to more taxes, less freedome and more government control.

Those of us who oppose this power grab do not have to show that humans are causing changes to the climate greater than climate changes that naturally occur. Anyone who believes that has the burden of proof, and all of their so-called proof relies on mismatched data setes (comparing the late 1800's to now using different equipment and different sample locationes), wishful thinking, and modeles that never - ever - prove to be reliable predictors.

 

[schmidlap]

The science deniers often become angry and lash out because they are unable to contrive credible data to refute the expert consensus.

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It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earth’s surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earth’s climate. This is based on over a century of scientific evidence forming the structural backbone of today's civilization.​

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Scientific Consensus - NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities

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