Has the United States surrendered to anthropogenic climate change?

[EMH]

I have no interest in disproving your truth

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT, AND NEITHER CAN ANYONE ELSE...

 

[HikerGuy83]

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT, AND NEITHER CAN ANYONE ELSE...

Right.....I am not even trying.

Are you really this dense.

You post good data.

And discredit yourself by being an asswipe.

 

[EMH]

Right.....I am not even trying.

Are you really this dense.

You post good data.

And discredit yourself by being an asswipe.

Not how science works....

Science is about prove or disprove, and your side cannot disprove.

 

[schmidlap]

Trump follows actual real science, as opposed to your heroes and their failed theory of AGW.

Keep posting your crap, I am having fun bitchslapping you!

195 nations are parties to the the Paris Climate Accord, based upon the overwhelming consensus of the world's climatologists regarding the irrefutable reality of anthropogenic global warming.

The ideological dogma Trump has issued to his subservient lickspittles is devoid of empirical data.

There is unequivocal evidence that
Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate.
Human activity is the principal cause.

VS

"The concept of global warming was created
by and for the Chinese in order to make
U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."
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[CrusaderFrank]

Trumphumps desperately try to avoid admitting that their Messiah has no scientific expertise or empirical data when he raves against the data-based global consensus of climatologists.

Does that include Chinese climatologists?

 

[schmidlap]

Does that include Chinese climatologists?

If you are aware of climatologists anywhere who are in denial of anthropogenic global warming, please cite them.

 

[EMH]

the irrefutable reality of anthropogenic global warming

has been refuted over and over to your face, you cannot disprove one word of it, and you keep right on parroting unaware you have already been exposed as a complete liar and a science invalid...

Thread 'Why do Fox News and "faux skeptics" want you, America, to believe "warming" that does not exist?'

Jul 20, 2025

They claim they don't believe CO2 does anything. They make fun of "predictions" made that are already disproven. They even show some actual data refuting "warming," but then THEY ALWAYS ACCEPT IT... YES THEY SAY, THE PLANET EARTH IS WARMING, BUT WE JUST DON'T ACCEPT CO2 as the cause...


Day after day here, we see the same self-proclaimed "skeptics" accepting clearly fudged BS as "proof" of "warming." Fox News pushes it. The Sun is the cause... no, water causes ice.... LOL!!! disproven the same way as atmosphere... GREENLAND FROZE WHILE NORTH AMERICA THAWED...

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The paranoid delusion that one knows more about any scientific discipline than the consensus of experts in that field, or that they are all complicit in a cast conspiracy, is impervious to reason.

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"consensus"




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[schmidlap]

What is painfully obvious is that the science-denying Trump dogmatists cannot cite even one climatological study in which analysis of the empirical data purportedly refutes the reality of anthropogenic climate change.

Their frustration compels then to lash out against the acknowledgement of the scientific consensus, rather than offer anything substantive.

 

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What is painfully obvious is that the science-denying Trump dogmatists cannot cite even one climatological study in which analysis of the empirical data purportedly refutes the reality of anthropogenic climate change.

Their frustration compels then to lash out against the acknowledgement of the scientific consensus, rather than offer anything substantive.

You are a political ideologue doing what political ideologues do; subverting truth in order to achieve political objectives.

 

[westwall]

195 nations are parties to the the Paris Climate Accord, based upon the overwhelming consensus of the world's climatologists regarding the irrefutable reality of anthropogenic global warming.

The ideological dogma Trump has issued to his subservient lickspittles is devoid of empirical data.

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There is unequivocal evidence that
Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate.
Human activity is the principal cause.

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"The concept of global warming was created
by and for the Chinese in order to make
U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."
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Oh gee, look at that. An accord that takes money from the poor and middle class, and gives it to the rich and powerful.

Show the class where there is an actual effort to reduce the effect on climate though.

Be specific with your links.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

What is painfully obvious is that the science-denying Trump dogmatists cannot cite even one climatological study in which analysis of the empirical data purportedly refutes the reality of anthropogenic climate change.

Their frustration compels then to lash out against the acknowledgement of the scientific consensus, rather than offer anything substantive.

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"scientific consensus"



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[HikerGuy83]

Not how science works....

Science is about prove or disprove, and your side cannot disprove.

I am not on the disproving side.

I said, I agree with your data.

And yes, there is a human component to science.

You calling everyone that even hints at getting out of line a name.....lessens your credibility...in general.

Nobody likes talking to an obnoxious know-it-all.

Share what you have and let it stand. Keep the commentary.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You are a political ideologue doing what political ideologues do; subverting truth in order to achieve political objectives.

Who posts no data he can stand behind himself.

He knows he's walking into a buzzsaw the minute he tries.

So he just pontificates and adds nothing but stupidity to the conversation.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Because you can't defend it.

It's more like an article of faith to you.

More than likely, you don't understand what is being published anyway.

He like many Warmest/alarmists are leftist democrats that is why they are stupid and science free it is a damage of being a leftist democrat, while being any of the following protects republicans, libertarians, independents, Constitutionalists, Anarchists are free of the climate delusions.

That is the dominant reason why being a leftist is bad for your brain and body, a sign of mental illness.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Insurance is risk based.

If the risk goes up so will the rate.

The modern economy can be insured.....it's just going to be more costly....maybe.

I doesn't help when cities are in flood plains, near the coast where Hurricanes comes ashore, build homes in forests, near rivers with a past history of periodic big flooding events.....

 

[Sunsettommy]

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"consensus"




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They never tire of showing they have nothing scientifically to produce which is why they go the Politically based consensus route, it is all they run to when they have no reproducible papers to build on as their unverifiable modeling scenarios are utter trash and their AGW cornerstone predictions have failed utterly:

NO Hot Spot exists.

NO Positive Feedback Loop exist.

AGW conjecture failed over a decade ago, yet we have science illiterates here and elsewhere still defending a dead science that keep running on the same modeling scenario formulas of the last few IPCC reports which have been failures.

It is the Leftist democrat who defends a dead science because they are brainwashed morons who have no idea what the AGW is in the first place.

 

[HikerGuy83]

195 nations are parties to the the Paris Climate Accord, based upon the overwhelming consensus of the world's climatologists regarding the irrefutable reality of anthropogenic global warming.

Show us the studies they are using to justify this.

You won't due that.

You climb under the skirts of a political group that has every reason to be jealous of the advanced industrial nature of countries like the U.S., accept tons of foreign aid, and have no problem asking for EVEN MORE MONEY.

 

[HikerGuy83]

This was interesting:

Overall, 46% of Americans say human activity is the primary reason why the Earth is warming. By contrast, 26% say warming is mostly caused by natural patterns in the environment and another 14% do not believe there’s evidence the Earth is warming at all.

Why Some Americans Do Not See Urgency on Climate Change

As the Earth’s temperature continues to rise, climate change remains a lower priority for some Americans, and a subset of the public rejects that it’s happening at all. To better understand the perspectives of those who see less urgency to address climate change, the Center conducted a series of...

www.pewresearch.org

Wondering if this is along political lines.

 

[HikerGuy83]

What is painfully obvious is that the science-denying Trump dogmatists cannot cite even one climatological study in which analysis of the empirical data purportedly refutes the reality of anthropogenic climate change.

Bald faced lie.

The poster EMH along with westwall have produced tons of data to explain how the fundmental premise of the whole AGW argument is wrong.

Cut it out schmidlap. Your lack of anything in the way of a study (you know will get shredded and which you can't stand behind because you appear to be pretty ignorant of science) is a glaring indication that you are projecting when you call others domatists.

And you can spare me a reference to the money grubbing Paris Accord.

You and your ilk lost your credibility when you started screaming like chicken little.

Here you go:

In recent years, a surprising shift has emerged within the scientific community regarding the severity of climate change warnings. Notable climate scientists such as Dr. Judith Curry and Dr. Steven Koonin have publicly challenged the most catastrophic scenarios often reported in the media, emphasizing that uncertainty remains high in climate models. According to a 2024 survey published by the journal Environmental Research Letters, about 28% of climate-related scientists expressed skepticism about high-end warming projections. These researchers argue that headlines sometimes exaggerate the speed and impact of climate changes, which can mislead the public. Some experts highlight that while greenhouse gases contribute to warming, the exact scale and timeline are still debated. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) itself has admitted that climate sensitivity estimates—how much the Earth warms with a doubling of CO2—carry significant uncertainty. This growing skepticism is fueling a more nuanced debate about the future of our climate.

More Scientists Now Doubt Climate Alarmism Claims

Growing Number of Experts Question Dire Predictions Growing Number of Experts Question Dire Predictions (image credits: wikimedia) In recent years, a surprising shift has emerged within the scientific community regarding the severity of climate change

climatecosmos.com

In a recent segment, “Are Americans Afraid of Climate Change?” CNN’s Harry Enten incredulously noted that despite all “the bad weather” we’ve been seeing, only “40% of Americans are greatly worried about climate change. The same as in 2000!”

Forty seems high. Indeed, I’m skeptical that very many Americans spend much, if any, of their day “greatly” distressed about mild deviations in the climate. Sure, alarmism has calcified into a partisan position for many Democrats, and many young people have been convinced the future is bleak. They grow out of it. When asked specifically about their experiences with hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, droughts, heat waves, cold snaps, and winter storms, a considerable majority of people said they have witnessed no change one way or the other.

Why are climate activists losing? Sooner or later, fearmongering becomes noise. Reality crashes against predictions. Public schools, institutions of higher learning, governments, international organizations, the whole culture, and scientific institutions have spent billions and untold hours trying to normalize the idea that modernity and capitalistic gluttony have driven temperatures to dangerous extremes. When I was growing up, it was cooling. Now, it’s warming. And with each surge of alarmism, the message depreciates.

Why climate change alarmism failed

The public awareness campaign to convince Americans that climate change is an existential threat has been an epic failure. In a recent segment, “Are

www.washingtonexaminer.com

And again.....nobody here gives a flying fig how many third world nations, hungry for money signed some politically expedient "accord". In fact, its just another cycle of the "surge of alarmism" mentioned above.

Put out your studies......zealot.

Let's see what you've got.