Has the GOP been infiltrated by the left?

[kaz]

I was part of the 2007 tea party. Trump is like those Republicans that came in and changed everything we were trying to accomplish.

g5000 is a hoot. Trump IS a leftist, but so is he. Suddenly he's against that. Sure he is.

But yes, Trump was in every way a terrible candidate except one. He's on our side. How sad is it that's enough now because we so seldom get it. The last Republican President before Trump was Reagan. It's just sad

 

[YoursTruly]

You have that wrong.

RINOs in your context are actually REAL Republicans... they were there before you, and they'll be there once you're gone.

MAGA Republicans - autocrat-enablers - are anathema to traditional Republican conservatism - more akin to Brown Shirts.

MAGA Republicans have turned the Grand Old Party into the Low-Brow Trailer-Trash Party.

The biggest problem I see with the MAGA crowd is their lack of information about who they're worshipping. (Trump).

They've been told all these grand things about him, in a certain way, without fact checking what they've been told.
A good example of this is his Platinum Plan. They think it's awesome that Trump helped the black community. Gave them opportunities, better education, business ownership, etc etc etc. But that's just the spin, the propaganda they used to sell it.
Fact is they gave ONLY black people money for their communities. They gave banks money to loan ONLY black people. This is all socialism. But the MAGA crowd didn't see it from that perspective because it was their orange leaders selling it.
Had it been Hillary or Biden that gave $500 billion to ONLY the black communities, they'd be screaming their heads off.

Trump is one hell of a salesman. And until his supporters understand just how much of a democrat Trump still is, they'll never know the difference.

 

[OldFlame]

You're joking, right? Those have to be reauthorized by every new president. Trump reauthorized both. And even bashed Republicans who opposed them.



NOT if he'd have made sure that there was no way to corrupt the money. Trump and Biden sent over $10 billion in covid money to other countries. India got over $200 million.



The president appoints the boss of the CDC. It's a federal agency. Trump put Fauci in that position. And praised him the whole time he was president.


Wrong. You either don't understand it, or you're in denial.

You make it all sound so simple when it's not. You assume powers and authority that simply are not there, and completely ignored what I said about that. Have a good day!

 

[YoursTruly]

g5000 is a hoot. Trump IS a leftist, but so is he. Suddenly he's against that. Sure he is.

But yes, Trump was in every way a terrible candidate except one. He's on our side. How sad is it that's enough now because we so seldom get it. The last Republican President before Trump was Reagan. It's just sad

I don't know enough about g5000 to say whether he's a leftist or not. But I know Trump is.

Trump being a democrat, who only identifies as a Republican, isn't on our side. In fact he's our worst kind of enemy. One that claims to be on our side, but is constantly shoving leftist shit down our throats. And somehow selling it as Republican shit. Always promising people what he's "gonna do." But never accomplishing the things he said was going to do before. Like cutting spending and zeroing out the national debt, "lock her up," making Mexico pay for the wall or protecting our 2A.
Then out comes the new round of promises, and people forget about the ones he broke before.

I swear, he's like a kid with a meth problem, and his supporters are a sympathetic mom. Always going to get off the drugs and straighten up. And when he come home high as a kite at 4 in the morning, mom buys the sob story and give him another chance. And $100. And doesn't say anything about the DVD player he stole from her to buy the meth he's high on.

Us fiscal conservatives are like the dad who wants to just kick his sorry ass out because we see through the lies and BS.

 

[YoursTruly]

You make it all sound so simple when it's not. You assume powers and authority that simply are not there, and completely ignored what I said about that. Have a good day!

The CDC does not set their own guidelines. It's a government agency who's policies and procedures have to be authorized by those who fund the CDC.

 

[22lcidw]

I don't know enough about g5000 to say whether he's a leftist or not. But I know Trump is.

Trump being a democrat, who only identifies as a Republican, isn't on our side. In fact he's our worst kind of enemy. One that claims to be on our side, but is constantly shoving leftist shit down our throats. And somehow selling it as Republican shit. Always promising people what he's "gonna do." But never accomplishing the things he said was going to do before. Like cutting spending and zeroing out the national debt, "lock her up," making Mexico pay for the wall or protecting our 2A.
Then out comes the new round of promises, and people forget about the ones he broke before.

I swear, he's like a kid with a meth problem, and his supporters are a sympathetic mom. Always going to get off the drugs and straighten up. And when he come home high as a kite at 4 in the morning, mom buys the sob story and give him another chance. And $100. And doesn't say anything about the DVD player he stole from her to buy the meth he's high on.

Us fiscal conservatives are like the dad who wants to just kick his sorry ass out because we see through the lies and BS.

Where were they at before him? Frauds.

 

[kaz]

I don't know enough about g5000 to say whether he's a leftist or not. But I know Trump is.

g5000 is always cagey about what he believes, but he spends all his time bashing Republicans while saying nothing against Democrats ever. He couldn't fool his mother he's so obvious about his hatred of anyone on the right. If you ask him he only hates Trump, but he hates everyone else who isn't a Democrat too, because, Trump!

Trump being a democrat, who only identifies as a Republican, isn't on our side. In fact he's our worst kind of enemy. One that claims to be on our side, but is constantly shoving leftist shit down our throats. And somehow selling it as Republican shit. Always promising people what he's "gonna do." But never accomplishing the things he said was going to do before. Like cutting spending and zeroing out the national debt, "lock her up," making Mexico pay for the wall or protecting our 2A.
Then out comes the new round of promises, and people forget about the ones he broke before.

I swear, he's like a kid with a meth problem, and his supporters are a sympathetic mom. Always going to get off the drugs and straighten up. And when he come home high as a kite at 4 in the morning, mom buys the sob story and give him another chance. And $100. And doesn't say anything about the DVD player he stole from her to buy the meth he's high on.

Us fiscal conservatives are like the dad who wants to just kick his sorry ass out because we see through the lies and BS.

In right/left terms, Trump is left, no doubt. But he loves this country, which Democrats haven't done for a long time. That's all I can say to defend him

 

[YoursTruly]

g5000 is always cagey about what he believes, but he spends all his time bashing Republicans while saying nothing against Democrats ever. He couldn't fool his mother he's so obvious about his hatred of anyone on the right. If you ask him he only hates Trump, but he hates everyone else who isn't a Democrat too, because, Trump!

I understand why he may be doing that. I lean right. So I put more focus on the GOP because it's the closest party that has a chance of winning. But the GOP is so screwed up. And it's frustrating to those of us who don't overlook the problems within the GOP. We want to expose those problems in order to fix them. And trying to do that with a bunch of GOP loyalist who would rather bash the left than fix the problems within their own party is overly frustrating. Especially when those loyalist are calling you a leftist.

In right/left terms, Trump is left, no doubt. But he loves this country, which Democrats haven't done for a long time. That's all I can say to defend him

How TF can you claim Trump loves the country when he plunged it so far deeper in debt, helping to destroy the value of our currency, making it harder for Americans to get by? Constantly appeasing and caving to the left makes it look like he loves the left more than this country. He wasn't fighting to increase the USD value, or the 2A or the constitution. He didn't once veto a bill that funded Planned Parenthood funding when he knew that money was going to kill babies. In fact he only vetoed 1 spending bill his entire term.
He didn't end any wars. He didn't close any bases over seas. Hell, he didn't even get all of our troops out of Syria or Afghanistan. He let the moron in chief do that.

I get sick of all this crap about how great Trump was by people who would scream their head off if the left did half the things Trump did.

Someone here stated a few months back that "The concept of Trump is much better than Trump himself."

P.S. I'm not attacking you. Just pointing out the problems with Trumps worshippers and how they're adversely affecting the only party that has a chance to become fiscal and constitutional conservative again. I was glad to see the neocons have to take a back seat to someone. I just wished it would've been someone I could support. Someone who wasn't such a democrat.

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[Invisibleflash]

I'm thinking the GOP has been infiltrated by the left. Maybe it started in 1980 with Reagan. Maybe a little before that. IDK. But regardless, it's my opinion that somewhere in the not so distant past, the left began funding and infiltrating the GOP with dem-lites. (Liberal Republicans, RINO's etc etc)
They'll take someone who's easily bought and paid for (in it for the money). Fund them, promote them and get them elected. And all they have to do is play a part. People like all of my states congressmen and senators. Republicans who will vote for debt ceiling increases, funding for places like Ukraine. Gender studies in Pakistan etc etc etc
Take Trump for example (I seen you rolling your eyes).... Where else in our history of this country, would republicans support ANY republican who spent as much as he did. Support as much unconstitutional BS as he has and invoke as much liberty smashing legislation as he has?
Would any one have supported Trump if he said he was going ban bump stocks and spend $8 trillion in just 4 years? Or if he said he would sign a bill that forces landlords to not force their tenants to pay rent?
Not in a million years, all the way up to 2020, would we support someone like that. 2024 for some of you.

So I'm thinking the left have secretly infiltrated not only our elections, but infiltrated who's allowed to run.
Oh sure they don't control everyone. They couldn't. They'll let people like Chip Roy, Rand Paul & Mike Lee get elected. But for the most part, they gotta fund their own campaigns.
What GOP politician has been in congress the longest? Certainly not McCarthy. So how did he get into a position to become speaker? His voting record sucks to high heaven. He's left of center on almost all issues. He's caved to Biden. He caved to Pelosi. So did Trump. Trump constantly caved to Pelosi and the establishment.
The left did to the GOP what the big government republicans did to the 07 tea party. And it's a safe bet that the left had already infiltrated the GOP by 2007. Probably by 1980.

You gotta admit that every single time we get a fiscal conservative POTUS candidate, he gets thrown under the bus by his own party.

That's a good question, a damn good question. But, dunno the answer. Could also be that reps get pussifed as time goes on.

Whatever the case, you need a 3rd party. The Constitutional Party, the America First Party. Whatever.

...of course, it will never happen.

Reps will do nothing to save America. Reps just slow down the destruction a notch or two. Reps never reverse the direction to recover what the dems have destroyed. Reps have proven to be utterly worthless at fighting dems and saving America. I'm done voting for reps. No more voting and getting on dems retribution lists.

 

[kaz]

I understand why he may be doing that. I lean right. So I put more focus on the GOP because it's the closest party that has a chance of winning. But the GOP is so screwed up. And it's frustrating to those of us who don't overlook the problems within the GOP. We want to expose those problems in order to fix them. And trying to do that with a bunch of GOP loyalist who would rather bash the left than fix the problems within their own party is overly frustrating. Especially when those loyalist are calling you a leftist.

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I'm a libertarian and hadn't voted Republican in decades before Trump in 2020, I feel you. But anyone who doesn't recognize the existential threat to our freedom from the Democrat party deserves what they get for not having the moral clarity to stand up for their rights.

It's sad we're in this position, but not picking the position we're in isn't an excuse for not processing it. No one WANTED to fight the Nazis. No one WANTED to fight the Democrat slavers in the civil war. But we did because it was wrong. We didn't crap out saying we didn't vote for them, so we aren't fighting them

 

[kaz]

How TF can you claim Trump loves the country when he plunged it so far deeper in debt, helping to destroy the value of our currency, making it harder for Americans to get by?

Trump defended the borders, supported the military, didn't get us into all the foreign wars supported by both parties, defended the police, prosecuted criminals. The Democrats do none of that. Both did as you say financially. I'm not going to defend policies I don't agree with, but yes, I see love of country in what Trump did. You don't it's up to you, but destroying Trump is just going to get you worse. That's reality

 

[g5000]

I don't know enough about g5000 to say whether he's a leftist or not

Read this topic and you will find I am an old school conservative: G5000's Plan For Economic Prosperity And Better Cable Reception


Trump's rubes do not know a conservative principle from their elbows. Their ideas of conservatism is, "Whatever Trump says!"

Far left protectionist tariffs.

Sleeping with porn stars while your wife is home nursing your newborn.

Idolizing and appeasing a mass murdering KGB thug.

Disbanding NATO on behalf of that KGB thug.

Grabbing pussies.

Stealing from cancer kids.

Defrauding the elderly.

$8 trillion deficits.

Record government spending BEFORE Covid.


These are but a few of the things Trumptards think are conservative.

 

[kaz]

Read this topic and you will find I am an old school conservative: G5000's Plan For Economic Prosperity And Better Cable Reception


Trump's rubes do not know a conservative principle from their elbows.

You can be a conservative and hate Trump, but that alone doesn't make you a conservative. Conservatives aren't quiet about showing six year olds gay porn. We aren't OK with cutting off a child's manhood before they are a man. You know NOTHING about what a conservative is

 

[Lastamender]

You are for Russia. Well duh....we all knew that.

There are no good guys but Ukraine's government is more oppressive than Putins and nowhere near the democracy you idiots claim it is. Putin is fighting globalists. Ukraine is a test run for how to run a country that suits the very rich and shits on anyone else who disagrees. Kind of like our country now under this illegitimate clusterfuck of an administration.

 

[YoursTruly]

I'm a libertarian and hadn't voted Republican in decades before Trump in 2020, I feel you. But anyone who doesn't recognize the existential threat to our freedom from the Democrat party deserves what they get for not having the moral clarity to stand up for their rights.

Most, if not all of us who lean right, do recognize the democrats and how bad they are. But the facts are still there.
Since Reagan, the GOP has increased the debt ceiling more times and had spent more money than the left.
The GOP hasn't repealed anything the democrats have forced down our throats. And the Trump supporters haven't held Trump accountable for the leftist things he shoved down our throats.

We know the left is bad. But if the right isn't going to fix it, then it's the right that needs to be fixed first. Putting a life long democrat who only identifies as a republican back in office ain't fixing anything.
And you can forget about Trump getting revenge on anyone. Because after all those he had in place to drain the swamp the first time, either got put in jail or indicted on something, no one is going to stick their neck out for Trump now. He's toxic to anyone who might have the authority to defend him as president.

It's sad we're in this position, but not picking the position we're in isn't an excuse for not processing it. No one WANTED to fight the Nazis. No one WANTED to fight the Democrat slavers in the civil war. But we did because it was wrong. We didn't crap out saying we didn't vote for them, so we aren't fighting them

The difference now is we don't have anyone who can actually accomplish what needs to be done. He had 4 years and didn't do a damn thing but embellish his actual record and cave to the swamp. I don't think he wanted to drain it. He wanted to be king of the swamp.

 

[kaz]

Since Reagan, the GOP has increased the debt ceiling more times and had spent more money than the left

My adult life literally started in 1981 when Reagan took office. How is this possible when literally every year since Democrats have gone into negotiations demanding we spend more money than Republicans wanted to spend. Literally, as in EVERY YEAR. No exceptions.

Do Republicans suck? Absolutely. Are they fiscally responsible, not a bit. But spend more than Democrats? I have to know how you're counting that because I have no idea

 

[kyzr]

Read this topic and you will find I am an old school conservative: G5000's Plan For Economic Prosperity And Better Cable Reception

Trump's rubes do not know a conservative principle from their elbows. Their ideas of conservatism is, "Whatever Trump says!"
Far left protectionist tariffs.
Sleeping with porn stars while your wife is home nursing your newborn.
Idolizing and appeasing a mass murdering KGB thug.
Disbanding NATO on behalf of that KGB thug.
Grabbing pussies.
Stealing from cancer kids.
Defrauding the elderly.
$8 trillion deficits.
Record government spending BEFORE Covid.
These are but a few of the things Trumptards think are conservative.

1. Populism Trumps globalism.
2. Melania wore that "I don't care" jacket for a reason.
3. Trump plays thugs, you should know that by now, but they know not to fuck with the US.
4. Biden is the president that is HELD IN CONTEMPT by NATO partners for his AFG disaster. Trump strengthened NATO, so says Stoltenberg.

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary general, said Trump is helping the alliance adapt to "a more unpredictable world."

www.usatoday.com

5. Grabbing pussies vs showering with your daughter? Pedo Joe loses that one.
6. The others meh.

The dems are about to throw "Too Old Joe" under the bus. The MSM are starting to throw stones at KJP, ouch.

 

[kaz]

The difference now is we don't have anyone who can actually accomplish what needs to be done. He had 4 years and didn't do a damn thing but embellish his actual record and cave to the swamp. I don't think he wanted to drain it. He wanted to be king of the swamp.

That is a huge problem, no doubt. We keep ending up with Republicrats like Bush and Bush. These are the Republicans I have hope for following through.

1) Desantis - He's kicked ass here in Florida, he's my guy
2) Ramaswamy - I love his domestic agenda, but not his plan to make Russia and China stronger.
3) Niki Halley - The newcomer to the list, she's talking a good game, but I still am headshy about believing her that she's the badass she says she is. I hope so

Trump I don't know, but he's lost me making 2024 about Trump rather than beating Biden. The rest of them are W to me

 

[g5000]

4. Biden is the president that is HELD IN CONTEMPT by NATO partners for his AFG disaster.

You're joking, right?

NATO has gotten stronger under Biden. They have fully backed us in our support of Ukraine.

What's more, NATO has grown by two new members.

All Trump ever talked about was disbanding NATO to make his lifelong love Putin happy.

NATO Nations’ Faith in U.S. Leadership Saw Biden Bump​

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[g5000]

5. Grabbing pussies vs showering with your daughter? Pedo Joe loses that one.

There is zero evidence that myth is true.

"If Ivanka wasn't my daughter, I'd be dating her."