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Industry is stagnant because businesses and corporations have little confidence in a positive economic future for this country. Until that changes, which is unlikely as long as Obama is president, we are not going to have a recovery.
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Considering lockstep do nothing Pubs have filibustered all his ideas since 11/2009. I would say it's their braindead non-policies...Pub Dupes!!
The GOP did not gain control of congress until January of 2011, Obama could have passed whatever he wanted up to that point due to his super majority in both houses. And to be honest, Obama wasn't doing shit about jobs when he DID have a filibuster proof congress and senate, what was his excuse then? I know what it is, he really could give a shit less about jobs, he is the quintessential socialist, state control of everything, and the only way to get that is through bailouts/take overs and putting the people out of work and on a government program.
You keep drinking the koolaid, the rest of us will be right here fighting for your right to hate America.
Considering lockstep do nothing Pubs have filibustered all his ideas since 11/2009. I would say it's their braindead non-policies...Pub Dupes!!
would that include Obama-care?
the failed stimulus?
his 1/2 of tarp?
bailing out the UAW? (wait, he did not ask congress to do that, sorry)
you want me to go on?
Considering lockstep do nothing Pubs have filibustered all his ideas since 11/2009. I would say it's their braindead non-policies...Pub Dupes!!
would that include Obama-care?
Specifics??
Actually from what I have heard we could have been better off if it had not been passed but if you can prove your argument that it was indeed a failure then provide the specifics to do so.
Again some specifics?
bailing out the UAW? (wait, he did not ask congress to do that, sorry)
How did that hurt? Got anyting specific or are vague generalities all that you have to offer?
you want me to go on?
I want you to start then IF you can provide something of substance then you can provide more IF you have it.
Why would anyone consider Standard and Poor a credible source of anything? Were they not the buffoons who said the real estate boondoggle was stable and sound economics? They should be thought of as fools at the most charitable.
The republicans and big money conservatives have done everything they could to try to make Obama fail, they did the same to every democratic president since FDR beat them badly. It seems sometimes the republicans are still fighting his ghost.
Right now it is up to Americans of good faith to build here, buy here, and support here. We were at a show yesterday in Atlantic City and the casino was crowded and people were spending, one could say wasting their money. Recessions are often in the mind. If only we could mass hypnotize the republicans that Obama is really Ronnie life would be just fine.
When you get to sit in the chair you are responsible. When the nation is falling apart and needing job, not only do you not have a plan you leave for 10 days of vacation. A lot of Americans don't know if they will have a house in 10 days. I don't care who did it, fix it that is why you have the job. You lied to the American people when you ran for office, you don't have a hope in hell of fixing anything. Just another pretty boy lib who never worked in his life. Following the steps of Clinton. You guys have got to stop blaming it all on the PUBS as you like to call us.
I am really glad that 9/11 didn't happen on Obama's watch, he probably would have made a public apology for having the World Trade Center in the way of the planes and offered them restitution. What a mess we are in.
If it happened on his watch he would have declared 9/11 a national muslim holiday.
Fucking retard.
Thanks for warning us that you were coming now if you have anything besides your usual trolling to offer that would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry kiddo.... that's he only response I have for: Considering lockstep do nothing Pubs have filibustered all his ideas since 11/2009. I would say it's their braindead non-policies...Pub Dupes
Sorry if that offends you.
GDP growth is below half of what it should be coming out of a recession. Obama has managed the Worst Recovery of the modern era.
Threats of higher taxes, disregard of lawful contracts in order to favor cronies, expanded entitlements, and heavy handed regulation do not foster economic growth.
GDP growth is below half of what it should be coming out of a recession. Obama has managed the Worst Recovery of the modern era.
Threats of higher taxes, disregard of lawful contracts in order to favor cronies, expanded entitlements, and heavy handed regulation do not foster economic growth.
It's a recession his policies doubled down on and created. I wouldn't go as far as calling it a recovery, they have not been adding jobs and unemployment has not changed much in almost a year. There is no recovery, only more finger pointing from the left trying to blame what they did on a GOP that was not in office nor had the ability to stop them when they did it. Socialism is a failed ideology as has been proven throughout history, all it does is destroy economies and wreck liberty.
GDP growth is below half of what it should be coming out of a recession. Obama has managed the Worst Recovery of the modern era.
Threats of higher taxes, disregard of lawful contracts in order to favor cronies, expanded entitlements, and heavy handed regulation do not foster economic growth.
Its that simple really
Considering lockstep do nothing Pubs have filibustered all his ideas since 11/2009. I would say it's their braindead non-policies...Pub Dupes!!
When you get to sit in the chair you are responsible. When the nation is falling apart and needing job, not only do you not have a plan you leave for 10 days of vacation. A lot of Americans don't know if they will have a house in 10 days. I don't care who did it, fix it that is why you have the job. You lied to the American people when you ran for office, you don't have a hope in hell of fixing anything. Just another pretty boy lib who never worked in his life. Following the steps of Clinton. You guys have got to stop blaming it all on the PUBS as you like to call us.
I am really glad that 9/11 didn't happen on Obama's watch, he probably would have made a public apology for having the World Trade Center in the way of the planes and offered them restitution. What a mess we are in.
If it happened on his watch he would have declared 9/11 a national muslim holiday.
Speaking of 9/11 and whose watch it occured on, why did republicans try to blame clinton for 9/11 when it happened on W's watch??
For that matter republicans loved to blame clinton for ruby ridge when that occured befoer he was even elected but due to the fact that he inherited the trial and with waco on their minds hacks likerush limbaugh blamed clinton and the right went along with it.
Republicans love to bring up the "booooosh" bs but didn't W actually try to blame clinton by claiming that he inherited a recession from clinton??
Why is it that the right applies one standard to republican presidents and a different standard to democrat presidents?
GDP growth is below half of what it should be coming out of a recession. Obama has managed the Worst Recovery of the modern era.
Threats of higher taxes, disregard of lawful contracts in order to favor cronies, expanded entitlements, and heavy handed regulation do not foster economic growth.
It's a recession his policies doubled down on and created. I wouldn't go as far as calling it a recovery, they have not been adding jobs and unemployment has not changed much in almost a year. There is no recovery, only more finger pointing from the left trying to blame what they did on a GOP that was not in office nor had the ability to stop them when they did it. Socialism is a failed ideology as has been proven throughout history, all it does is destroy economies and wreck liberty.
And taking the queue from rightwing talking heads and presidential candidates you chime in with the vague "his policies" while failing to provide anything specific and showing HOW it actually did what you claim it did.
Thanks for NOTHING.
would that include Obama-care?
Specifics??
Actually from what I have heard we could have been better off if it had not been passed but if you can prove your argument that it was indeed a failure then provide the specifics to do so.
Again some specifics?
How did that hurt? Got anyting specific or are vague generalities all that you have to offer?
you want me to go on?
I want you to start then IF you can provide something of substance then you can provide more IF you have it.
I can.
So much money spent and unemployment still at 9.2%
Any other questions?
Stimulus
His 1/2 of tarp
The dow is below 11,0000
deficits are so bad that S&P gave us a down grade
UE is getting worse
Are we all ready in another recession?
has real GDP growth began to go in reverse?
Stimulus
His 1/2 of tarp
The dow is below 11,0000
deficits are so bad that S&P gave us a down grade
UE is getting worse
Are we all ready in another recession?
has real GDP growth began to go in reverse?
So all you have are the stimulus and the tarp from over two years ago and the EU even as you fail to mention any specific policy and fail to show HOW said policy will affect anything and you think that you make a valid argument?? Do you have anything more recent and specific?
BTW I think the stalemate in washington was a large aprt of why S&P gave us a downgrade or do you just discard facts that don't suit your spin?
spin?
did the stimulus work? (with 250 billion in tarp)
Is Obama-care in court being deemed un constitutional help?
Did his adding so much debt we got downgrade by S&P help?
deficits are so bad that S&P gave us a down grade
More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness,
stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political
institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic
challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a
negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.
· Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the
gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us
pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be
able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal
consolidation plan that stabilizes the government's debt dynamics any
time soon. http://www.standardandpoors.com/ser...lobwhere=1243942957443&blobheadervalue3=UTF-8
Did the reluctance to do what ever it takes to open up these shale oil fields help?
pipelines?
Nuclear energy?
Natural gas?
you want me to go on?