Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[rosends]

You should compare how the Allies acted once they occupied Germany.

but since that hasn't happened in the case of Gaza, why would one compare an end result with things still in process?

 

[rosends]

When Israel makes concessions of territory they seem to end up with more territory under their control.

like the entire Sinai? Or Gaza? When Israel gets attacked it ends up with territory. Lesson -- don't attack Israel.

 

[rosends]

Thanks for proving you're lying yet again. You continually prove you have no sense of decency and will say anything that pops into what passes for your brain. Lying is a way of life for you and this is why you have no credibility whatsoever.

Canada has not said word one about supporting Hamas. That's a total lie, as usual for you. Canada has said it supports the Palestinian people.

From Carney's statement recognizing Palestine. I've bolded what he said about Hamas.



Here is the full statement which condemns Hamas forcefully

Statement by Prime Minister Carney on Canada’s recognition of a Palestinian state

For decades, it was hoped that this outcome would be achieved as part of a peace process built around a negotiated settlement between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority.

www.pm.gc.ca

why would they recognize a state "predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment"?

Why not wait to see that they CAN and DO set up that self governance and then recognize a nation?

 

[Lisa558]

Maybe they want the Palestinians gone so they can have the entire country?

Yes, yes….those greedy Jews just want it ALL./s

The truth is that the Muslims want Israel gone so they can have 100% of the land mass instead of 99.6.%

Here’s some perspective:

 

[struth]

why would they recognize a state "predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment"?

Why not wait to see that they CAN and DO set up that self governance and then recognize a nation?

Because they are bigots. They back Hamas

 

[alang1216]

You mean the homes that Israel gave to the Gazans? Israel pulled its citizens out of Gaza, often by force, left the Gazans with a thriving economy, provided free power, water and medical care and got nothing except terrorism and rocket attacks, all directed at Israeli civilians in return.

I understand your frustration, not all people in US prisons are grateful for their free room and board.

 

[alang1216]

You do realize that Hamas is descended from NAZIs right? Hitler and the Arab leaders were allies.

I have no love for Hamas but many of those Arab leaders came from colonies of the Allied nations. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[alang1216]

Put the shoe on the other foot. Can Jews buy land in the Islamic countries? No, and the land and businesses they once owned were seized with no compensation when the Jews were forcibly expelled over the last five decades.

So you're saying that Israel is no better than the Arab countries? I agree.

 

[alang1216]

Jews have continually populated the Middle East since before the Romans conquered it. Most of the indigenous population are the descendants of Roman citizens conquered and forcibly converted to Islam. Most of the so-called Palestinians are relatively recent immigrants whose grand or great grand parents were drawn there by the prosperity created by the Jewish immigrants who bought tracts of goat grazing lands from Ottoman landlords and turned them into productive agricultural areas,

So if someone in the US converts to Judaism they have the right to displace a Palestinian family that already lives there?

 

[alang1216]

Maybe because the Palestinians have proven multiple times they will not live in peace alongside Israel?

The neighboring Arab countries made peace with Israel. The Palestinians have never lived 'alongside' Israel, they've lived subject to Israel.

 

[alang1216]

so then what's the value of this statement?
"Muslims owned that land for 1,500 years. I doubt Jews owned it that long."

It refutes the claim that Jews are a privileged group because they lived long ago.

 

[alang1216]

if Israel tried to replace the elected government of another people, you don't think the world would accuse Israel of something?

Let's find out. We did it in Germany and it turned out well for the Germans.

 

[alang1216]

but since that hasn't happened in the case of Gaza, why would one compare an end result with things still in process?

Isn't Israel occupying a part of Gaza?

 

[rosends]

It refutes the claim that Jews are a privileged group because they lived long ago.

but how does the length of time someone lives there a way to invalidate that another group lived there earlier. Is the issue, "when" or "for how long"? If neither matters, then neither matters for anyone.

 

[rosends]

Let's find out. We did it in Germany and it turned out well for the Germans.

who is "we"? And are you endorsing Israel's meddling with the government of another group? Do you approve of the US's propping up governments

United States involvement in regime change - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rosends]

Isn't Israel occupying a part of Gaza?

Israel is at war with Gaza and is moving more forces in so as to occupy certain areas in the future.

 

[alang1216]

Yes, yes….those greedy Jews just want it ALL./s

The truth is that the Muslims want Israel gone so they can have 100% of the land mass instead of 99.6.%

Here’s some perspective:View attachment 1147721

Here's another perspective:

Looks different when you take out Morrocans, Algerians, etc. and just look at the Palestinians.

 

[alang1216]

but how does the length of time someone lives there a way to invalidate that another group lived there earlier. Is the issue, "when" or "for how long"? If neither matters, then neither matters for anyone.

After 3 generations, neither matters for anyone.

 

[Lisa558]

Here's another perspective:

Looks different when you take out Morrocans, Algerians, etc. and just look at the Palestinians.

Very false perspective when you ignore the 99.5% of the surrounding land, all Arabs, and from which Jews were driven off.

And why should we “take” out Morrocons and Algerians? They’re the worst antisemites, and have made their countries Judenfrei.

 

[Shusha]

The tradition the became Judaism developed there. The people likely migrated there from the east (now Iraq). Over time many of those people left voluntarily or involuntarily and carried those traditions with them. Over time people converted to Judaism, married Jews, and all the while Judaism evolved.

It is the tradition that originated in that homeland, but which people originated there is impossible to know.

It is appalling how hard some people work to disconnect the Jewish people from their homeland. Traditions don't exist without people.

The Jewish people originated in that homeland. You dig in the soil, and you find Jewish history. The holidays are based on the cultivation of that land. The foods, the laws, the stories all based in that place.

And yet, you spin circles trying to deny it so you can deny the Jewish people the same rights as other indigenous peoples.