Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[Dragonlady]

Based on my experience in dealing with citizens of those counties on this board, like Dragonlady I believe she thinks a lot like Hamas

You haven't the first clue on how I think, moron. You believe a lot of shit that isn't real. You just pull stuff out of your ass and pretend it means anything.

 

[alang1216]

Has any country in history created a government for its enemies during actual combat? I can’t think of one. You hold Israel to standards no country has ever been held to,

Israel is occupying a significant portion of Gaza.

 

[struth]

You haven't the first clue on how I think, moron. You believe a lot of shit that isn't real. You just pull stuff out of your ass and pretend it means anything.

Of course I do, I’ve read your post. Now your country is confirming they are aligned with Hamas because they kill Jews

 

[alang1216]

That’s historically what happens to the losing sides of wars. If Israel lost a war, there wouldn’t be a living Jew in Isreael in a year. Every Muslim nation has expelled its Jews, often only allowing them to leave with the clothes on their backs.

You want the Palestinians to admit defeat and surrender. They have shown they are unwilling to do either.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Will Israel do in Gaza what they have done in the West Bank? Will Israel's security require settlements in Gaza and the displacement of the Palestinians there? In my mind, forcing people out of their homes and lands is the very definition of genocide and it is still being done in the West Bank.

You mean the homes that Israel gave to the Gazans? Israel pulled its citizens out of Gaza, often by force, left the Gazans with a thriving economy, provided free power, water and medical care and got nothing except terrorism and rocket attacks, all directed at Israeli civilians in return.

 

[flack]

Yes, I'm sure. The Palestinians have legitimate complaints about how they have been treated by Israel and they see Hamas, as bad as they are, as being on their side. The Nazis were motivated by pure hate and anti-Semitism and saw genocide as their solution.

You do realize that Hamas is descended from NAZIs right? Hitler and the Arab leaders were allies.

 

[flack]

 

[AZrailwhale]

You want the Palestinians to admit defeat and surrender. They have shown they are unwilling to do either.

Then the war will continue. Some wars have lasted a century or more in history.

 

[struth]

You mean the homes that Israel gave to the Gazans? Israel pulled its citizens out of Gaza, often by force, left the Gazans with a thriving economy, provided free power, water and medical care and got nothing except terrorism and rocket attacks, all directed at Israeli civilians in return.

The demafasict don’t like the truth

 

[Lisa558]

Has any country in history created a government for its enemies during actual combat? I can’t think of one. You hold Israel to standards no country has ever been held to,

The antisemitic leftists sure hold Jews to impossible standards, different from anyone else.

Is Russia dropping supplies and warning Ukrainian civilians to vacate before they attack? And Russia was the aggressor! Lest some of the Jew-haters forget, this war started when the Muslim savages launched a deranged, barbaric attack on innocent Jews.

 

[AZrailwhale]

When individuals are discriminated against because they belong to a specific group, there is on-going forced displacement of that ethnic group.

Can Arabs Buy Land in Israel? Legally yes but in practice there are severe restrictions.
Can Arabs buy land in Israeli settlements? While Israeli law does not explicitly prohibit Arabs from purchasing land in Israeli settlements, in practice, significant barriers exist that make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for Arabs to buy property in these areas.

Obstacles and Legalities of Rebuilding Homes for Palestinians in the West Bank:

Palestinians face significant obstacles in rebuilding their homes in the West Bank, particularly within Area C, which remains under full Israeli control. While Areas A and B are under Palestinian civilian control (with Area B also under Israeli security control), the Israeli Civil Administration maintains planning authority over building permits in Area C.​

Demolitions and the "Permit Regime"

• Administrative Demolitions: Homes are frequently demolished due to a lack of Israeli-issued building permits, which are notoriously difficult for Palestinians to obtain in Area C.
• Rejection of Permits: The Civil Administration rejects a high percentage of Palestinian permit applications in Area C – estimates suggest over 94% between 2000 and 2007. More recent reports from August 2023 indicate that the Civil Administration rejects 95% of applications, granting fewer than 10 permits per year.
• Punitive Demolitions: In addition to demolitions for lack of permits, Israel also carries out demolitions as a form of punishment against individuals or their relatives accused of attacking or attempting to attack Israeli forces.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Can Jews buy land in the Islamic countries? No, and the land and businesses they once owned were seized with no compensation when the Jews were forcibly expelled over the last five decades.

 

[struth]

The antisemitic leftists sure hold Jews to impossible standards, different from anyone else.

Is Russia dropping supplies and warning Ukrainian civilians to vacate before they attack? And Russia was the aggressor! Lest some of the Jew-haters forget, this war started with the Muslim savages launched a deranged, barbaric attack on innocent Jews.

Correct, cause they are bigots

Remember this are the demklan that want to exploit brown people for cheap labor. They are scum

 

[Dragonlady]

Of course I do, I’ve read your post. Now your country is confirming they are aligned with Hamas because they kill Jews

Thanks for proving you're lying yet again. You continually prove you have no sense of decency and will say anything that pops into what passes for your brain. Lying is a way of life for you and this is why you have no credibility whatsoever.

Canada has not said word one about supporting Hamas. That's a total lie, as usual for you. Canada has said it supports the Palestinian people.

From Carney's statement recognizing Palestine. I've bolded what he said about Hamas.

This intention is predicated on the Palestinian Authority’s commitment to much-needed reforms, including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state. Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong, democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.

Here is the full statement which condemns Hamas forcefully

Statement by Prime Minister Carney on Canada’s recognition of a Palestinian state

For decades, it was hoped that this outcome would be achieved as part of a peace process built around a negotiated settlement between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority.

www.pm.gc.ca

 

[struth]

Thanks for proving you're lying yet again. You continually prove you have no sense of decency and will say anything that pops into what passes for your brain. Lying is a way of life for you and this is my you have no credibility whatsoever.

Canada has not said word one about supporting Hamas. That's a total lie, as usual for you. Canada has said it supports the Palestinian people.

From Carney's statement recognizing Palestine. I've bolded what he said about Hamas.



Here is the full statement which condemns Hamas forcefully

Statement by Prime Minister Carney on Canada’s recognition of a Palestinian state

For decades, it was hoped that this outcome would be achieved as part of a peace process built around a negotiated settlement between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority.

www.pm.gc.ca

Of course Canada has. Read the OP

 

[AZrailwhale]

Can Israelis claim to be indigenous if Muslims lived there for longer than they have? I don't accept it.

Jews have continually populated the Middle East since before the Romans conquered it. Most of the indigenous population are the descendants of Roman citizens conquered and forcibly converted to Islam. Most of the so-called Palestinians are relatively recent immigrants whose grand or great grand parents were drawn there by the prosperity created by the Jewish immigrants who bought tracts of goat grazing lands from Ottoman landlords and turned them into productive agricultural areas,

 

[Lisa558]

Jews have continually populated the Middle East since before the Romans conquered it. Most of the indigenous population are the descendants of Roman citizens conquered and forcibly converted to Islam. Most of the so-called Palestinians are relatively recent immigrants whose grand or great grand parents were drawn there by the prosperity created by the Jewish immigrants who bought tracts of goat grazing lands from Ottoman landlords and turned them into productive agricultural areas,

The Arabs have essentially ethnically cleansed the entire region of Jews other than the 0.5% of land that is Israel.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Maybe they want the Palestinians gone so they can have the entire country?

Maybe because the Palestinians have proven multiple times they will not live in peace alongside Israel?

 

[AZrailwhale]

There were plenty of non-Jewish countries in the area, read the Bible.

And the Romans conquered them all and most eventually converted to Christianity, then were conquered by Muslims who forced everyone except a relatively small hard-core group of Christian’s and Jews to convert to Islam, be third class citizens in their own countries or die.

 

[rosends]

No, I only look back 3 generations.

so then what's the value of this statement?
"Muslims owned that land for 1,500 years. I doubt Jews owned it that long."

 

[rosends]

Nor has Israel tried to replace them. Why is that? Is Hamas useful to Israel?

if Israel tried to replace the elected government of another people, you don't think the world would accuse Israel of something?