Hamas breaks ceasefire as rockets explode near Be'er Sheva

[Sweet_Caroline]

The rockets are a form of resistance against Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine. Perhaps it's time some Jews realized their colonization of Palestine has come to its natural end?

Which part of the land is Israel illegally occupying?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

In the UK we have two definitions. One is a bundle of small twigs and sticks for starting a fire, the other is a meat ball made from minced pork and offal wrapped in the caul surrounding the stomach. Usually eaten with mushy peas and gravy all cooked together in an oven.

And a third. A ****** (or ***) is a homosexual and SunniMan as we have noticed in the past is obsessed with them.

 

[Sunni Man]

Depends what the IAF target. Maybe the IAF should target something that is important to Hamas.

They do........Hamas members wives and children.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

They do........Hamas members wives and children.

No, more important than that. Something that will make the Gazan people rise up en masse against Hamas.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, more important than that. Something that will make the Gazan people rise up en masse against Hamas.

And then who?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

And then who?

Probably not who, but what. Leaders can be replaced as there is always someone ready in the wing. Israel needs to target leaders, yes, but also more. Gazans who want peace need to rebel against Hamas in a way that won't get them tortured and murdered by doing so. Hamas holds everything there in a tight grip, including even the food and medicines coming through the crossing from Israel. Hamas holds a tight grip on journalists and camera crews. Hamas inflates and distorts the news. However, remember we got the list of the deaths in Gaza, which obviously they weren't able to change!

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes --- I have explained this.

That is Palestine inside its international borders.
You never have explained how and when Palestinians became exempt from customary international law.

(COMMENT)

There was no state of Palestine. Palestine wasn't created until 1988.

In December 1960, when this General Assembly Resolution 1514 (XV) was passed, there was no application for it relative to the Middle East.

• Israel was already a recognized state and already independent.
• The Gaza Strip was Occupied by Egypt; the All Palestine Government dissolved, and a Military Governorship installed.
• The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory; with Palestinians in the Parliament.

Secondly, there was no colonization involved; that is there was no Colonial Power making colonies unless you want to count the Arab League (Egypt and Jordan).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Daniyel]

They do........Hamas members wives and children.

Assuming Mohammad Deif killed he got 72 virgins.. problem is.. his wife went with him!

 

[SAYIT]

"contained and quarantined" = Oppressed

That may be your definition but it's certainly not the actual definition. By their actions the Gazans have been quarantined. You will notice the West Bankers do not require quarantine. See if you can figure out why that is.
Here's a hint: No rockets = No quarantine

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes --- I have explained this.


(COMMENT)

There was no state of Palestine. Palestine wasn't created until 1988.

In December 1960, when this General Assembly Resolution 1514 (XV) was passed, there was no application for it relative to the Middle East.

• Israel was already a recognized state and already independent.
• The Gaza Strip was Occupied by Egypt; the All Palestine Government dissolved, and a Military Governorship installed.
• The West Bank was sovereign Jordanian territory; with Palestinians in the Parliament.

Secondly, there was no colonization involved; that is there was no Colonial Power making colonies unless you want to count the Arab League (Egypt and Jordan).

Most Respectfully,
R

Not necessary. People in non self governing territories have rights.

That is a smokescreen issue.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Probably not who, but what. Leaders can be replaced as there is always someone ready in the wing. Israel needs to target leaders, yes, but also more. Gazans who want peace need to rebel against Hamas in a way that won't get them tortured and murdered by doing so. Hamas holds everything there in a tight grip, including even the food and medicines coming through the crossing from Israel. Hamas holds a tight grip on journalists and camera crews. Hamas inflates and distorts the news. However, remember we got the list of the deaths in Gaza, which obviously they weren't able to change!

So then, why did the Palestinians not have justice before Hamas?

 

[Phoenall]

You're wrong.
The point of the blockade is to convince at least 80% of the Palestinians living in Gaza to leave the first time Israel makes that possible. Should that happen, a million Jews will move into Gaza, giving Israel its desired 80/20 percent Jewish majority. This same kind of stealth annexation by Jews has been going on in Palestine since before you and I were born, and it would not be continuing without the support of the US Congress.

You can of course provide evidence of this LIBELIOUS CLAIM from an undisputable source, or you can retract your lies and save being reported for LYING WITH INTENT

 

[Daniyel]

Not necessary. People in non self governing territories have rights.

That is a smokescreen issue.

It doesn't oppose the fact Palestine wasn't exist officially before 1988.
It does oppose the fact Palestinians claim for Israeli citizenship and full Israeli rights when clearly their rights suppose to be handled by the PA, not Israel.

 

[Daniyel]

So then, why did the Palestinians not have justice before Hamas?

Hamas is not Justice, and there are 40+ Terrorist organizations claiming Justice with violence even before 1948.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

So then, why did the Palestinians not have justice before Hamas?

What are you talking about now?

 

[Phoenall]

"From June 2007 until June 2010, only 255 truckloads of strawberries and flowers left Gaza for Europe, compared to dozens of trucks that left Gaza per-day in the first six months of 2007, and 400 trucks that Israel agreed to let out daily in the Agreement on Movement and Access (AMA).

"In December 2010, Israel declared it would allow more export from Gaza through the Kerem Shalom Crossing.

"From the end of November 2010 to the end of April 2011, 287 truckloads of strawberries and flowers left Gaza for Europe, in addition to a minimal quantity of red peppers and cherry tomatoes – in other words, 0.5% of the amount of trucks promised in the AMA.

"Israel does not allow residents of Gaza to export goods to markets in Israel, the West Bank or Jordan.

"From May 12, 2011, to October 27, Israel didn’t allow any truck carrying goods to exit the Gaza Strip.

If I didn't know better, I would think it's all part of the Zionist plan for Jews to control all the land between the River and the sea.

It won't work, Rocco, the world is waking to how Israel was born in 1948.

Export from Gaza | Gisha

Your LIES wont work either as we have all seen the way hamas does business and mass murders its own just so it can blame Israel. Ever thought that being out of season the numbers of goods would be diminishing, but 9,000 tons of strawberries is a lot of strawbs. What effect would 1.8 million tons of strawbs have on the buying price in Europe, and how soon before the EU closed down the importation of strawbs from gaza to protect its own growers. Time you learnt market economy and market forces, flood any market with produce and the cost soon goes down until you are giving the goods away. Now if it was in June when the world flocks to Wimbledon 1.8 million tons of strawbs would be about enough, but they would need to be top quality varieties to compete with the English. Same with flowers they would need to be cheaper and better quality than Dutch to compete. Seeing what is on offer in gaza from various sources the quality is poor and they produce is over ripe because the people don't know how to store it to ripen.

But you do realise that you have once again shot yourself in the foot by providing evidence of agriculture in gaza big enough to sustain the inhabitants and not let them starve. Another LIE put to bed by your further LIES to RACIALLY ABUSE AND INCITE VIOLENCE TOWARDS ISREAL

 

[Phoenall]

After the last 66 years of Jewish aggression in Palestine, why would you expect Arabs to disarm before their occupying authority lifts its illegal blockade of Gaza?

What occupying authority would that be, and a current link from hamas would be nice. Then a link showing the blockade to be illegal from the Hague would also be nice.

By the way the arabs signed documents agreeing to disarm in a structured manner alongside the lifting of the occupation by Israel. The steps were for Israel to leave gaza and the arabs to stop all terrorist attacks, then for Israel to leave Jericho and the arabs to talk peace and mutual borders and finally for Israel to leave the west bank back to the mutually agreed borders and for the arabs to disarm completely apart from a police force/militia that would be trained and supplied with weapons by Israel. Shows that the arabs have no intention of ever giving up violence and war against Israel doesn't it

 

[P F Tinmore]

It doesn't oppose the fact Palestine wasn't exist officially before 1988.
It does oppose the fact Palestinians claim for Israeli citizenship and full Israeli rights when clearly their rights suppose to be handled by the PA, not Israel.

Not true! Even the mandate called Palestine a country and defined its inhabitants as citizens.

You spend too much time in Israeli propaganda.

 

[irosie91]

Mr tin is playing word games again

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

All people have the same rights.

Not necessary. People in non self governing territories have rights.

That is a smokescreen issue.

(COMMENT)

Israel has been self-governing since 1948.
Gaza has been under occupation from 1948 to 2005.
The West Bank is a mixture of Occupation, then sovereignty, then Occupation, then partly sovereign.

In any event, if there is a smokescreen being laid here, it is the fact that the area declared independent since 1988 called Palestine has been not exclusively ruled by the Palestinians. The Arabs played their part.

In 1960, who are you blaming for the status of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank? Israel? Don't be absurd.

Most Respectfully,
R