Had Trump run as a democrat, would he have garnered the same support?

[nat4900]

Chatting with some friends (some of whom are staunch republicans) the above question arose.

Certainly, as some GOP candidates have claimed, Trump is a "New York values" type, and that may mean, as Cruz alleged, that he is somewhat of "liberal"; after all, Trump has claimed a penchant for universal health care, pro free choice for women, fair trade, etc.

So, the question arises: Would Trump have garnered the same level of support among right wing voters, or are these voters a bit dense in NOT fully understanding his (albeit, non-specific) stances and proposed policies?

 

[imawhosure]

Chatting with some friends (some of whom are staunch republicans) the above question arose.

Certainly, as some GOP candidates have claimed, Trump is a "New York values" type, and that may mean, as Cruz alleged, that he is somewhat of "liberal"; after all, Trump has claimed a penchant for universal health care, pro free choice for women, fair trade, etc.

So, the question arises: Would Trump have garnered the same level of support among right wing voters, or are these voters a bit dense in NOT fully understanding his (albeit, non-specific) stances and proposed policies?

He could easily have run as a Democrat, but with the super delegates, why would he? His stance on illegal immigration would have been his downfall as a Democrat though, there is no doubt about that. Still, just like the Republican party, the Democrats would have been split between Trump and Hillary, with Bernie a distant 3rd. You see, Democrats are NOT far left; only the far left is way out there. Democrats are usually blue collar workers, and they would have flocked to his message, just as they do now.

 

[RDD_1210]

Chatting with some friends (some of whom are staunch republicans) the above question arose.

Certainly, as some GOP candidates have claimed, Trump is a "New York values" type, and that may mean, as Cruz alleged, that he is somewhat of "liberal"; after all, Trump has claimed a penchant for universal health care, pro free choice for women, fair trade, etc.

So, the question arises: Would Trump have garnered the same level of support among right wing voters, or are these voters a bit dense in NOT fully understanding his (albeit, non-specific) stances and proposed policies?

He could easily have run as a Democrat, but with the super delegates, why would he? His stance on illegal immigration would have been his downfall as a Democrat though, there is no doubt about that. Still, just like the Republican party, the Democrats would have been split between Trump and Hillary, with Bernie a distant 3rd. You see, Democrats are NOT far left; only the far left is way out there. Democrats are usually blue collar workers, and they would have flocked to his message, just as they do now.

Only the republican party has a base dumb enough and bigoted enough to buy in to his message that preys on hate and fear.

 

[amrchaos]

The left got most of what they wanted.

What is going on now,on the left, is a form of boredom plus self examination of where to go and what to do next

Usually, political parties lose in this state, but the GOP are snatching an implausibly stunning defeat from the hands of victory!

 

[nat4900]

Ironically, I agree with all the above responses...with one exception: Trump's stance on illegal or Muslim immigration, is not so much based on a strong conviction, but more on Trump's savvy to swing to the right of most other GOP candidates to obtain support among the ultra conservatives.

Bottom line: Trump has few (if any) convictions, but a "clever" knack to tap into the dissatisfaction of voters and address that dissatisfaction with fiery demagoguery.

 

[browsing deer]

He is running as Bernie Sanders. The same xenophobia, the same policies. Sanders is a lot more honest, but they are the same other than than that. They are both running on "no bull shit" platform. Sanders is for real, Trump is not

 

[Norman]

He is running as Bernie Sanders. The same xenophobia, the same policies. Sanders is a lot more honest, but they are the same other than than that. They are both running on "no bull shit" platform. Sanders is for real, Trump is not

Free shit socialist Sanders is the complete opposite of SJW, and parasite crushing Trump. You really must not be paying a lot of attention.

Basically, the democrat party is all about pleasing minorities and parasitic entitlement personalities with superior feelings of morality (completed with gross underachievement). Trump is the antithesis of all that. He will make things great, instead of taking great things away in order to protect the feelz of some entitled feminist. You know who to vote for...

 

[Iceweasel]

Ironically, I agree with all the above responses...with one exception: Trump's stance on illegal or Muslim immigration, is not so much based on a strong conviction, but more on Trump's savvy to swing to the right of most other GOP candidates to obtain support among the ultra conservatives.

Bottom line: Trump has few (if any) convictions, but a "clever" knack to tap into the dissatisfaction of voters and address that dissatisfaction with fiery demagoguery.

I disagree. Immigration is a big issue but I do believe the prevailing one, and why Trump hit a chord, is the economy. We are still limping along, the recession should have ended long ago and despite the rose colored lense distortion from big government, most people are concerned, pissed or frustrated.

It's what he means when he says 'let's make America great again', his theme. I don't know if he can but I don't see how he could fuck it up worse.

 

[Iceweasel]

He is running as Bernie Sanders. The same xenophobia, the same policies. Sanders is a lot more honest, but they are the same other than than that. They are both running on "no bull shit" platform. Sanders is for real, Trump is not

Are you on LSD? The capitalist and the socialist have the same policies?

 

[RDD_1210]

Ironically, I agree with all the above responses...with one exception: Trump's stance on illegal or Muslim immigration, is not so much based on a strong conviction, but more on Trump's savvy to swing to the right of most other GOP candidates to obtain support among the ultra conservatives.

Bottom line: Trump has few (if any) convictions, but a "clever" knack to tap into the dissatisfaction of voters and address that dissatisfaction with fiery demagoguery.

I disagree. Immigration is a big issue but I do believe the prevailing one, and why Trump hit a chord, is the economy. We are still limping along, the recession should have ended long ago and despite the rose colored lense distortion from big government, most people are concerned, pissed or frustrated.

It's what he means when he says 'let's make America great again', his theme. I don't know if he can but I don't see how he could fuck it up worse.

Says who? You? Based upon what?

Since it "should have ended long ago", tell us exactly when it should have ended.

 

[RDD_1210]

He is running as Bernie Sanders. The same xenophobia, the same policies. Sanders is a lot more honest, but they are the same other than than that. They are both running on "no bull shit" platform. Sanders is for real, Trump is not

Are you on LSD? The capitalist and the socialist have the same policies?

Good point. Sanders is an honest man who has principles and an actual plan. Trump has none of those things.

 

[Norman]

Ironically, I agree with all the above responses...with one exception: Trump's stance on illegal or Muslim immigration, is not so much based on a strong conviction, but more on Trump's savvy to swing to the right of most other GOP candidates to obtain support among the ultra conservatives.

Bottom line: Trump has few (if any) convictions, but a "clever" knack to tap into the dissatisfaction of voters and address that dissatisfaction with fiery demagoguery.

I disagree. Immigration is a big issue but I do believe the prevailing one, and why Trump hit a chord, is the economy. We are still limping along, the recession should have ended long ago and despite the rose colored lense distortion from big government, most people are concerned, pissed or frustrated.

It's what he means when he says 'let's make America great again', his theme. I don't know if he can but I don't see how he could fuck it up worse.

Agreed. The immigration issue is not very important in USA, but did establish that "enough with the bullshit - time to call spade a spade". Which is probably the real reason why it resonates. Plus, Europe being completely fucked due to their policies doesn't hurt. Trump probably anticipated that those policies would backfire soon with the terrorist strikes, crime waves, and rape events taking over the continent, all over the news. Just the general cluster fuck which liberal regressive policies enriches cultures with.

 

[browsing deer]

He is running as Bernie Sanders. The same xenophobia, the same policies. Sanders is a lot more honest, but they are the same other than than that. They are both running on "no bull shit" platform. Sanders is for real, Trump is not

Are you on LSD? The capitalist and the socialist have the same policies?

the same policies. look it up. Trump is single payer and post partum abortion. Trump is for dropping Nato. Trump is more socialist than Sanders.

 

[Moonglow]

Chatting with some friends (some of whom are staunch republicans) the above question arose.

Certainly, as some GOP candidates have claimed, Trump is a "New York values" type, and that may mean, as Cruz alleged, that he is somewhat of "liberal"; after all, Trump has claimed a penchant for universal health care, pro free choice for women, fair trade, etc.

So, the question arises: Would Trump have garnered the same level of support among right wing voters, or are these voters a bit dense in NOT fully understanding his (albeit, non-specific) stances and proposed policies?

He is a democrat..he knew that the GOP was just right for the pickin' since they are the most splintered...

 

[jasonnfree]

Lots of democrats switching to Trump, the same ones who voted for hope and change and instead Obama kept pushing crappy trade pacts like the TPP that have gutted American manufacturing. To add insult to injury, Obama pushes mass immigration which ensures the low wage trend to continue. But hey , keep on thinking that these former democrats are racists if it makes you feel better.

 

[Norman]

He is running as Bernie Sanders. The same xenophobia, the same policies. Sanders is a lot more honest, but they are the same other than than that. They are both running on "no bull shit" platform. Sanders is for real, Trump is not

Are you on LSD? The capitalist and the socialist have the same policies?

Good point. Sanders is an honest man who has principles and an actual plan. Trump has none of those things.

Indeed he does. Albeit, bankrupting America is not a really great plan.

Now, let me repeat it again. No one cares about these plans, they won't ever happen and have never happened. You would have to be economically illiterate or dillusional to believe USA could pull up cash for free education in this economy. Everyone knows the direction where Trump is coming from.

 

[HappyJoy]

Trump's support, what he is about often times is bashing minority groups. Other than abortion (assuming he didn't change his position) and healthcare (again, he has changed his position) and that at least at one time he had no problem with the rich paying their share of taxes though he certainly wasn't an advocate of the middle class or poor.

Anger at the establishment is OK, anger at fellow Americans and ethnic groups abroad do not have a lot of sway within the Democratic party. Populism can work but I see two different brands coming from the right and left.

Trump tweeted that recently, comparing his wife to that of one of his rivals, doesn't work in Democratic politics.

 

[blackhawk]

The equally good question is would he have garnered as much hate from the left if he had run as a Democrat given some of the more liberal stances he has taken over the years which you would think they would like.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Chatting with some friends (some of whom are staunch republicans) the above question arose.

Certainly, as some GOP candidates have claimed, Trump is a "New York values" type, and that may mean, as Cruz alleged, that he is somewhat of "liberal"; after all, Trump has claimed a penchant for universal health care, pro free choice for women, fair trade, etc.

So, the question arises: Would Trump have garnered the same level of support among right wing voters, or are these voters a bit dense in NOT fully understanding his (albeit, non-specific) stances and proposed policies?

I think so.
as long as he continued to talk about getting rid of the illegals, securing the border and working down the debt.
right now those are what should be the top concerns for most Americans.

 

[Muhammed]

Chatting with some friends (some of whom are staunch republicans) the above question arose.

Certainly, as some GOP candidates have claimed, Trump is a "New York values" type, and that may mean, as Cruz alleged, that he is somewhat of "liberal"; after all, Trump has claimed a penchant for universal health care, pro free choice for women, fair trade, etc.

So, the question arises: Would Trump have garnered the same level of support among right wing voters, or are these voters a bit dense in NOT fully understanding his (albeit, non-specific) stances and proposed policies?

He could easily have run as a Democrat, but with the super delegates, why would he? His stance on illegal immigration would have been his downfall as a Democrat though, there is no doubt about that. Still, just like the Republican party, the Democrats would have been split between Trump and Hillary, with Bernie a distant 3rd. You see, Democrats are NOT far left; only the far left is way out there. Democrats are usually blue collar workers, and they would have flocked to his message, just as they do now.

Only the republican party has a base dumb enough and bigoted enough to buy in to his message that preys on hate and fear.

His message isn't "hate and fear".

You are the dumb one.