H.R.2 Immigration bill

[Vrenn]

If our current immigration laws were being enforced, we would be just fine. What we have today is a welcoming and disbursement committee, not a serious border control force. And that is not because of our Border Patrol, who have their hands tied. It's because the Democrat Marxists want it that way. MAGA

The Funds to do that just aren't allocated. And guess who allocates those funds? The House. Right now, there is up toa 7 year delay in immigration courts. What has recently been approved is to increase the number of Judges and Lawyers and place a 30 day limit. You sicko MAGAts are just stirring things up for chaos reasons.

 

[wamose]

The Funds to do that just aren't allocated. And guess who allocates those funds? The House. Right now, there is up toa 7 year delay in immigration courts. What has recently been approved is to increase the number of Judges and Lawyers and place a 30 day limit. You sicko MAGAts are just stirring things up for chaos reasons.

Tour post just proved my point. Our border was under control under the great leadership of Donald Trump. When the airhead was appointed border czar we lost all semblance of border security. Border security under Harris was more like illegal alien placement. Our Border patrol became babysitters and paper pushers while the terrorists, criminals and drug and human smugglers crossed our border with impunity. Democrats have destroyed our border security. MAGA

 

[Vrenn]

Tour post just proved my point. Our border was under control under the great leadership of Donald Trump. When the airhead was appointed border czar we lost all semblance of border security. Border security under Harris was more like illegal alien placement. Our Border patrol became babysitters and paper pushers while the terrorists, criminals and drug and human smugglers crossed our border with impunity. Democrats have destroyed our border security. MAGA

Harris was never put in sole charge of the border.

While the raw numbers are much higher under Biden — 5 million encounters compared with 1.4 million under Trump in those time frames — the percentages for the two administrations were similar: 47% removed under Trump and 51% under Biden. Bier’s estimates are for illegal immigration between ports of entry. (As our bar graph above shows, both administrations had removal rates above 50% when Title 42 was being used to expel people.)

 

[Hellokitty]

Let's start out with the building or repairing the wall.

SEC. 102. Border wall construction.
(a) In general.—
(1) IMMEDIATE RESUMPTION OF BORDER WALL CONSTRUCTION.—Not later than seven days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall resume all activities related to the construction of the border wall along the border between the United States and Mexico that were underway or being planned for prior to January 20, 2021.
(2) USE OF FUNDS.—To carry out this section, the Secretary shall expend all unexpired funds appropriated or explicitly obligated for the construction of the border wall that were appropriated or obligated, as the case may be, for use beginning on October 1, 2019.
(3) USE OF MATERIALS.—Any unused materials purchased before the date of the enactment of this Act for construction of the border wall may be used for activities related to the construction of the border wall in accordance with paragraph (1).
(b) Plan To complete tactical infrastructure and technology.—Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act and annually thereafter until construction of the border wall has been completed, the Secretary shall submit to the appropriate congressional committees an implementation plan, including annual benchmarks for the construction of 200 miles of such wall and associated cost estimates for satisfying all requirements of the construction of the border wall, including installation and deployment of tactical infrastructure, technology, and other elements as identified by the Department prior to January 20, 2021, through the expenditure of funds appropriated or explicitly obligated, as the case may be, for use, as well as any future funds appropriated or otherwise made available by Congress.

This is actually a rewording of the bill under President Bush, Jr. The problem with building NEW walls is that the terrain isn't conducive for building. You may be able to build in Texas but when you cross over to New Mexico and Arizona you are not in Mountainous and other really rough ground that the illegals can't get over either. Almost half of all border on those two states really cannot be built on without enacting a few hundred trillion bucks. Yes, some areas can be built and probably should be. But most of those have already been built on and probably need rebuilding. Are you aware that there tiny 2 and 3 foot breaks all along the wall and it's like Grand Central Station. For a couple of thousand, each one of these can be repaired. Here's the bad news, for every repair we make in an outlying area, the Illegals will tear another 2 or 3 foot section. The wall itself only works if it's patrolled.

I like DeSantis solution.

 

[1srelluc]

The NGOs are grifting money back to the DNC.....That gravy train will not be cut short unless and until the dems are defeated.

 

[Vrenn]

I like DeSantis solution.

Which is? Sorry, no drive by's on this one. Present his case.

 

[Hollie]

The Funds to do that just aren't allocated. And guess who allocates those funds? The House. Right now, there is up toa 7 year delay in immigration courts. What has recently been approved is to increase the number of Judges and Lawyers and place a 30 day limit. You sicko MAGAts are just stirring things up for chaos reasons.

Border wall construction is problematic.

The wall materials previously stockpiled at the border were auctioned off as scrap by you MAGATs for pennies on the dollar.

 

[Vrenn]

Border wall construction is problematic.

The wall materials previously stockpiled at the border were auctioned off as scrap by you MAGATs for pennies on the dollar.

Actually, the border wall gets almost 1.4 billion every year by law. Biden tried to keep the material and repurpose the 1.4 billion but congress wouldn't allow him to. So he sold the excess materials through the Military that originally provided the funds instead of building, upgrading and maintaining facilities including On Base Housing. The wall will still be built and maintained. The funds are there.

 

[Hollie]

Actually, the border wall gets almost 1.4 billion every year by law. Biden tried to keep the material and repurpose the 1.4 billion but congress wouldn't allow him to. So he sold the excess materials through the Military that originally provided the funds instead of building, upgrading and maintaining facilities including On Base Housing. The wall will still be built and maintained. The funds are there.

Actually, the funds for the wall materials previously stored at the border and auctioned off by Biden-Harris were the result of monies previously approved by congress. Funds to purchase new material has not been approved by congress.

Senator Scott Condemns Biden Administration’s Decision to Auction Off Border Wall Materials — U.S. Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina

Today, U.S. Senator Tim Scott (R-S.C.) issued the following statement as the Biden administration’s Department of Defense auctions off approximately $260 million worth of border wall construction materials. The White House has spent an additional nearly $47 million dollars storing the unused...

www.scott.senate.gov

 

[Vrenn]

Actually, the funds for the wall materials previously stored at the border and auctioned off by Biden-Harris were the result of monies previously approved by congress. Funds to purchase new material has not been approved by congress.

Senator Scott Condemns Biden Administration’s Decision to Auction Off Border Wall Materials — U.S. Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina

Today, U.S. Senator Tim Scott (R-S.C.) issued the following statement as the Biden administration’s Department of Defense auctions off approximately $260 million worth of border wall construction materials. The White House has spent an additional nearly $47 million dollars storing the unused...

www.scott.senate.gov

The funds to purchase the materials were taken from the Military Budget. And that was not approved by congress. What you overlook is that there is "By Law" almost 1.4 billion per year that goes to the border for repairs, new builds and Border Security. In 2006, Bush Jr. got approval from congress for 1.2 billion because the border was in real sad shape in all areas. That law still stands and has been adjusted from 1.2 to just short 1.4 Billion. Due to having all that excess materials, Biden tried to get part of the 1.4 reallocated while they used up the material. The House (which controls the funds) turned him down. So, Biden used the same presidential power that tRump used to syphon funds from the military housing budget to turn the excess over to the United States Army for disposition. There are plenty of funds for the Border and always has been since 2006 with the budget of today. That budget needs to be increased as long as the services also are increased in the budget.

 

[Hollie]

The funds to purchase the materials were taken from the Military Budget. And that was not approved by congress. What you overlook is that there is "By Law" almost 1.4 billion per year that goes to the border for repairs, new builds and Border Security. In 2006, Bush Jr. got approval from congress for 1.2 billion because the border was in real sad shape in all areas. That law still stands and has been adjusted from 1.2 to just short 1.4 Billion. Due to having all that excess materials, Biden tried to get part of the 1.4 reallocated while they used up the material. The House (which controls the funds) turned him down. So, Biden used the same presidential power that tRump used to syphon funds from the military housing budget to turn the excess over to the United States Army for disposition. There are plenty of funds for the Border and always has been since 2006 with the budget of today. That budget needs to be increased as long as the services also are increased in the budget.

You might want to better understand the facts.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/114#:~:text=Introduced%20in%20House%20(01%2F09%2F2023)&text=This%20bill%20establishes%20funding%20for,and%20maintenance%20of%20the%20barrier.

This bill establishes funding for a U.S.-Mexico border barrier and revises how border patrol agents are compensated for overtime

 

[Vrenn]

You might want to better understand the facts.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/114#:~:text=Introduced%20in%20House%20(01%2F09%2F2023)&text=This%20bill%20establishes%20funding%20for,and%20maintenance%20of%20the%20barrier.

This bill establishes funding for a U.S.-Mexico border barrier and revises how border patrol agents are compensated for overtime

The bill was sent to a sub committee on Feb of last year. It's still there. The reason is, it's jubberish since every point they made is already a law and has been since 2006. S.2611 was passed by both houses and signed into law by President Bush, Jr. And it's still in force today.

 

[Hollie]

The bill was sent to a sub committee on Feb of last year. It's still there. The reason is, it's jubberish since every point they made is already a law and has been since 2006. S.2611 was passed by both houses and signed into law by President Bush, Jr. And it's still in force today.

It was Chuckles Schumer who refused to put the bill on the senate floor for a vote.

Laws are in place today which are ignored by Biden-Harris and the retrograde democrats who ignore the law in favor of flooding the country with illegals, criminals and terrorists.

 

[Hellokitty]

Which is? Sorry, no drive by's on this one. Present his case.

 

[BackAgain]

The biden/senate bill that MAGAs rejected had no border wall and no way of preventing illegal aliens from sneaking across the border

It also enshrined allowing biden to legally admit over 5,000 migrants a day into the US

Yup:

Republicans to Shut Down the Federal Government if President Biden vetoes a bill to prevent illegal immigrants from voting in Federal Elections.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4764972-house-approves-voter-eligibility-bill/ This provision was not in the final bill approved by the House and Senate and sent to Biden's desk.

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[BackAgain]

The proposed senate immigration bill

Now that it’s out, it has gotten a day and change of analysis. In a prior thread of mine, I entered this post (slightly edited here for clarity): [Under this new proposed bill], the secretary’s sole and unreviewable discretion isn’t discretionary anymore when the 7 day average goes over...

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[Vrenn]

It was Chuckles Schumer who refused to put the bill on the senate floor for a vote.

Laws are in place today which are ignored by Biden-Harris and the retrograde democrats who ignore the law in favor of flooding the country with illegals, criminals and terrorists.

That's because every Rep was against it and enough dems were also against it and it died on the vine. Besides, it just repeated what was already a law made in 2006.

 

[BackAgain]

Kyle Reyes on LinkedIn: #thinblueline #lawenforcement | 292 comments

People are WAKING UP!! Watch as this man very simply debunks the “Trump killed the border bill” propaganda that democrats are pushing. Send this to a… | 292 comments on LinkedIn

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Well worth reviewing this video.

 

[Doc7505]

The first job of Congress on Jan 1, 2025 is to pass HR-2 2023 once again and send it to the Senate for approval and enforce it.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/summary/00

 

[Vrenn]

The first job of Congress on Jan 1, 2025 is to pass HR-2 2023 once again and send it to the Senate for approval and enforce it.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/summary/00

Only if they admit that they costs thousands of lives and billions of dollars by blocking it in the first place. Oh, and yes, resign so that Public Servants can take over their jobs. Note: I didn't specify what party the Public Servants should be.