H.R. 127 - The End of our Second Amendment?

[danielpalos]

Like the recent elections, the courts will side with the Constitution if this or this type of gun control law is passed.

This the law for Individuals of the People unconnected with the organized militia in a State Constitution:

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[Coyote]

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

In my opinion, this Act would never have been necessary if gun lovers could be trusted with their guns to begin with. Right wingers cannot keep blaming the black market or only criminals having guns for the security problems we have seen even recently. All the unorganized militia keeps proving is that they are worthless to the security of our free States.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and Regulate them Well!

States have a right to their own security and to organize their own militias.

Why do gun lovers object to becoming organized and more useful as State Guard (militia) or State National Guard (militia)? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and have no need to complain about gun control laws meant for the unorganized militia as individual persons that are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Right wingers seem disingenuous when complaining about gun control laws meant for unorganized militia as individual citizens (persons) in any of our free States.

I vehemently disagree. We The People both individually and collectively have been endowed with the right, by our Creator, to defend ourselves from the State and its progressive corruption. Your words are highly misleading and misinterpretation of our Founding Father's intent. Your thoroughly wrong interpretation of our Second Amendment would have had the British confiscating firearms from our Revolutionary Founders. Under you misunderstanding America never would have existed.

I doubt our Creator cares about states or guns.

 

[BlindBoo]

Like the recent elections, the courts will side with the Constitution if this or this type of gun control law is passed.

This the law for Individuals of the People unconnected with the organized militia in a State Constitution:

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Arms is a very broad category. It could mean everything from a club to a nuclear bomb. The real question is, at what weapon do we draw the line?

 

[danielpalos]

Like the recent elections, the courts will side with the Constitution if this or this type of gun control law is passed.

This the law for Individuals of the People unconnected with the organized militia in a State Constitution:

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Arms is a very broad category. It could mean everything from a club to a nuclear bomb. The real question is, at what weapon do we draw the line?

Subject to the (Traditional) police power (of a State). Individuals have a right to defense of self and property not offense for self and property.

 

[BlindBoo]

Like the recent elections, the courts will side with the Constitution if this or this type of gun control law is passed.

This the law for Individuals of the People unconnected with the organized militia in a State Constitution:

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Arms is a very broad category. It could mean everything from a club to a nuclear bomb. The real question is, at what weapon do we draw the line?

Subject to the (Traditional) police power (of a State). Individuals have a right to defense of self and property not offense for self and property.

Where is this individual right in the Second Amendment, where it limits the type of arms an individual can own to defensive ones only?

 

[Moonglow]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

or you could realize that it takes a 2/3rds majority to pass this type of legislation you could realize that it will never pass...Then it has to pass a legal standing in the courts test.

 

[Shawnee_b]

Registering a weapon and ammunition isn't ending the second amendment.

Registration is the first step to confiscation. Read some history.

 

[danielpalos]

Like the recent elections, the courts will side with the Constitution if this or this type of gun control law is passed.

This the law for Individuals of the People unconnected with the organized militia in a State Constitution:

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Arms is a very broad category. It could mean everything from a club to a nuclear bomb. The real question is, at what weapon do we draw the line?

Subject to the (Traditional) police power (of a State). Individuals have a right to defense of self and property not offense for self and property.

Where is this individual right in the Second Amendment, where it limits the type of arms an individual can own to defensive ones only?

Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States not Individual rights to defense of self and property.

 

[danielpalos]

Registering a weapon and ammunition isn't ending the second amendment.

Registration is the first step to confiscation. Read some history.

Drama queens? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security of their State or the Union. Get organized or be subject to the police power of your State.

 

[Crepitus]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

What if the state, like Florida decides not to enforce the HR and turns the state into a legal gun owners sanctuary? Will the Progs have the nerve to declare war against one of its own states?

Idiotic question.

This isn’t going to happen because this is feel-good, window dressing ‘legislation.’

It will never pass – but that won’t keep the dishonest right from lying that it will.

He'll, it might even be sponsored by gun/ammunition manufacturers because sales are gonna jump again.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Democrats have had FULL control for nearly a month now......

WHY IS COVID19 STILL THREATENING AMERICA ???/

They said if not for Trump they could solve the problem.

WELL ????

 

[danielpalos]

Democrats have had FULL control for nearly a month now......

WHY IS COVID19 STILL THREATENING AMERICA ???/

They said if not for Trump they could solve the problem.

WELL ????

right wingers are still going around maskless making it seem like they think the pandemic is a hoax.

 

[protectionist]

Idiotic question.

This isn’t going to happen because this is feel-good, window dressing ‘legislation.’

It will never pass – but that won’t keep the dishonest right from lying that it will.

WHY will it "never pass" ?

 

[protectionist]

right wingers are still going around maskless making it seem like they think the pandemic is a hoax.

Much of what we have heard IS A HOAX. You are unaware of the inflated mortality reports from hospitals, who get $$$ from the federal govt, in correlation with the # of Covid deaths reported ? You think the reports of hundreds of thousands of US deaths is anywhere near accurate ?

Hint: the CDC declared, last summer, the numbers to be inaccurate.

 

[protectionist]

This thing is D.O.A. Probably fulfilling a campaign promise. It will not receive significant support from the democrats.

Upon what do you base this statement ?

 

[protectionist]

In my opinion, this Act would never have been necessary if gun lovers could be trusted with their guns to begin with. Right wingers cannot keep blaming the black market or only criminals having guns for the security problems we have seen even recently. All the unorganized militia keeps proving is that they are worthless to the security of our free States.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and Regulate them Well!

States have a right to their own security and to organize their own militias.

Why do gun lovers object to becoming organized and more useful as State Guard (militia) or State National Guard (militia)? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and have no need to complain about gun control laws meant for the unorganized militia as individual persons that are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Right wingers seem disingenuous when complaining about gun control laws meant for unorganized militia as individual citizens (persons) in any of our free States.

1. What (specifically) seems "disingenuous" about right wingers when complaining about gun control laws ?

2. What gun related "security problems we have seen even recently", other than those involving left wing lunatics ?

3. What gives any indication that legal, law-abiding gun owners could NOT be trusted ?

 

[Concerned American]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

What if the state, like Florida decides not to enforce the HR and turns the state into a legal gun owners sanctuary? Will the Progs have the nerve to declare war against one of its own states?

Idiotic question.

This isn’t going to happen because this is feel-good, window dressing ‘legislation.’

It will never pass – but that won’t keep the dishonest right from lying that it will.

Or stop the stupid leftys from voting that same stupid joke of a reps in so that they can introduce it again.

 

[Concerned American]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

Registering a weapon and ammunition isn't ending the second amendment.

Stop lying.

Every time some weapon safety laws are proposed you stupid people drag out the lies about ending the second amendment.

The only way to end that amendment is for a new one to be written that repeals it and it's voted on by the voting population of our nation.

Stop with the lies. It's so old and ridiculous.

Registering a weapon isn't taking the second amendment away.

And if I don't register it--are you going to infringe on my God-given right to keep and bear arms? That is a violation of the 2nd amendment.

 

[protectionist]

Yeah, right. Especially on Capitol Hill. Only right wingers are willing to insurrect against the Union but blame the less fortunate for being "illegal".

The majority of rioters on Capitol Hill, were leftists engaging in an attack planned weeks before the riot. 100,000 protestors at the Capitol had nothing whatsoever to do with the rioting, and only protested peacefully, as directed by President Trump.

As Trump said >> "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

The lying, despicable, leftist media showed a video, where the video was stopped just before this sentence was to begin. Millions of Americans were duped except those who watch conservative TV, and listen to conservative radio.

As for "blame the less fortunate for being "illegal"., YES, because they ARE ILLEGAL, when they come to the US illegally. DUH!

 

[Utilitarian]

In my opinion, this Act would never have been necessary if gun lovers could be trusted with their guns to begin with. Right wingers cannot keep blaming the black market or only criminals having guns for the security problems we have seen even recently. All the unorganized militia keeps proving is that they are worthless to the security of our free States.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and Regulate them Well!

States have a right to their own security and to organize their own militias.

Why do gun lovers object to becoming organized and more useful as State Guard (militia) or State National Guard (militia)? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and have no need to complain about gun control laws meant for the unorganized militia as individual persons that are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Right wingers seem disingenuous when complaining about gun control laws meant for unorganized militia as individual citizens (persons) in any of our free States.

Your interpretation does not match what the Supreme Court has established with DC v. Heller or McDonald v. Chicago.