H.R. 127 - The End of our Second Amendment?

[danielpalos]

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Infringement...

Our welfare clause is general not common, yet right wingers love to infringe on that clause all the time.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I don't care if this bill doesn't pass.

Anyone who proposed it or voted for it needs to be fucking executed by disembowelment beheading anal probe impalement and paraded around the nation to rot before the eyes of the people.

Their families should be burned alive.

All of their friends beat to death.

This in-your-face violence against the right of the MUST stop. There is no better deterrent than the death of everyone you love.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

Sure as hell sounds like some American hating scumbags are trying ton infringe . When the facts sat the founders said : "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" . Our god giver rights ! Wow , democrats sure are dumb!

"God" gave you those rights?
Why doesn't every one in the world have those same rights?
Those "rights" must be in the bible right?
So, it took almost 1800 years after his "son" was born to make that proclamation?
Teabaggers are the dumb ones, thinking "God" gave them "rights".

Everyone should have that right , unfortunately some dictator took over and first thing they do is go after law abiding citizens rights to defend themselves of course leaving the citizens defenseless. Who wants to be defenseess? You? Not me ? Shall not be infringed. Hello.

 

[The Irish Ram]

^
Infringement...

Our welfare clause is general not common, yet right wingers love to infringe on that clause all the time.

In writing, on paper, they said, Do not infringe. It doesn't say that about welfare, life, liberty, happiness. That tells you how important it is to be able to defend your welfare, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...

 

[airplanemechanic]

Gun control has nothing to do with guns, it has everything to do with control.

 

[danielpalos]

^
Infringement...

Our welfare clause is general not common, yet right wingers love to infringe on that clause all the time.

In writing, on paper, they said, Do not infringe. It doesn't say that about welfare, life, liberty, happiness. That tells you how important it is to be able to defend your welfare, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States not the Individual Liberty to keep and bear Arms. Well regulated militia (of the whole and entire People) may not be Infringed when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.

 

[Smokin' OP]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

Sure as hell sounds like some American hating scumbags are trying ton infringe . When the facts sat the founders said : "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" . Our god giver rights ! Wow , democrats sure are dumb!

"God" gave you those rights?
Why doesn't every one in the world have those same rights?
Those "rights" must be in the bible right?
So, it took almost 1800 years after his "son" was born to make that proclamation?
Teabaggers are the dumb ones, thinking "God" gave them "rights".

Everyone should have that right , unfortunately some dictator took over and first thing they do is go after law abiding citizens rights to defend themselves of course leaving the citizens defenseless. Who wants to be defenseess? You? Not me ? Shall not be infringed. Hello.

Everyone in the US has that right, given by the government, NOT God.
Commit a felony and the government takes that right away, NOT God.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

Sure as hell sounds like some American hating scumbags are trying ton infringe . When the facts sat the founders said : "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" . Our god giver rights ! Wow , democrats sure are dumb!

"God" gave you those rights?
Why doesn't every one in the world have those same rights?
Those "rights" must be in the bible right?
So, it took almost 1800 years after his "son" was born to make that proclamation?
Teabaggers are the dumb ones, thinking "God" gave them "rights".

Everyone should have that right , unfortunately some dictator took over and first thing they do is go after law abiding citizens rights to defend themselves of course leaving the citizens defenseless. Who wants to be defenseess? You? Not me ? Shall not be infringed. Hello.

Everyone in the US has that right, given by the government, NOT God.
Commit a felony and the government takes that right away, NOT God.

Do not commit a felony. "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED ".

 

[Smokin' OP]

The Bill:

Text - H.R.127 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act

Articles/Information about the Bill:

Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act (H.R. 127)

FightHR127.com: Stop HR 127 - Gun Licensing, Registration & Partial Ammo Ban

Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is 'Insanity on Steroids'

Congressional Bill H.R. 127- To Provide for the Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition - FosterFollyNews.com

Videos about the Bill:






OP Commentary:

Eleven or so miles as the crow flies from where I sit typing out this post criminal maniacs are "quaking" it up on the streets of Charm city free of any federal, state or local laws prohibiting them from murdering each other and innocent bystanders with every modern firearm imaginable, from handguns and submachine guns to semi and fully automatic rifles and carbines. Every single day I open up my Windows 10 news feed and find there, glaring back at me, new reports of killings down in beautiful old Baltimore—often within mere blocks of such bastions of civilization as Johns Hopkins University campus and the Inner Harbor, a world renowned tourist attraction. The factual truth is no level of government imposed "gun control" will ever stop or even slow down the Baltimore murder rate or number of daily shootings.

Despite the above undeniable reality, people like myself—veterans, former law enforcement and otherwise upstanding, law abiding citizens must jump through nearly impassable bureaucratic red tape hoops in order to simply transport our legally owned firearms to our local ranges in order to use them. And that's the sad state of affairs here in Maryland even before H.R. 127 makes its way through our Congress to President Biden's Resolute Desk. As it stands criminal maniacs, such as those daily murdering Americans on the streets of every major U.S. City, already are empowered with greater Second Amendment rights than American citizens who have never broken gun laws. With the introduction and likely passage of H.R. 127, We The People will have next to no legal ability to own firearms and/or use them to defend ourselves, our communities or our families.

The situation seems ultra clear, both from a gun owner's viewpoint and any American Citizen possessed of the capability for basic reasoning. Criminal maniacs—drug dealers, human traffickers, narco-terrorists, gangbangers and other human scum—will all have the protection of our federal government to carry on with their rampant destruction of human life with any firearm they choose to steal and shoot, whilst Americans who have always abided by our civilization's rule of law will be taxed and punished out of our Second Amendment right for the "crime" of merely wanting to own, oh no, a gun.

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

Sure as hell sounds like some American hating scumbags are trying ton infringe . When the facts sat the founders said : "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" . Our god giver rights ! Wow , democrats sure are dumb!

"God" gave you those rights?
Why doesn't every one in the world have those same rights?
Those "rights" must be in the bible right?
So, it took almost 1800 years after his "son" was born to make that proclamation?
Teabaggers are the dumb ones, thinking "God" gave them "rights".

Everyone should have that right , unfortunately some dictator took over and first thing they do is go after law abiding citizens rights to defend themselves of course leaving the citizens defenseless. Who wants to be defenseess? You? Not me ? Shall not be infringed. Hello.

Everyone in the US has that right, given by the government, NOT God.
Commit a felony and the government takes that right away, NOT God.

Do not commit a felony. "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED ".

Especially with a gun.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

In my opinion, this Act would never have been necessary if gun lovers could be trusted with their guns to begin with. Right wingers cannot keep blaming the black market or only criminals having guns for the security problems we have seen even recently. All the unorganized militia keeps proving is that they are worthless to the security of our free States.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and Regulate them Well!

States have a right to their own security and to organize their own militias.

Why do gun lovers object to becoming organized and more useful as State Guard (militia) or State National Guard (militia)? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and have no need to complain about gun control laws meant for the unorganized militia as individual persons that are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Right wingers seem disingenuous when complaining about gun control laws meant for unorganized militia as individual citizens (persons) in any of our free States.

I vehemently disagree. We The People both individually and collectively have been endowed with the right, by our Creator, to defend ourselves from the State and its progressive corruption. Your words are highly misleading and misinterpretation of our Founding Father's intent. Your thoroughly wrong interpretation of our Second Amendment would have had the British confiscating firearms from our Revolutionary Founders. Under you misunderstanding America never would have existed.

Our First Amendment is first not second. You already have the natural right to defense of self and property as Individuals.

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.[1]

Our Second Amendment is clearly about the security of our free States not any form of Individual right to keep and bear Arms.

The proof is, only well regulated militias of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security needs of their State or the Union.

You are absolutely ridiculous. Stop making stuff up.

 

[danielpalos]

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

In my opinion, this Act would never have been necessary if gun lovers could be trusted with their guns to begin with. Right wingers cannot keep blaming the black market or only criminals having guns for the security problems we have seen even recently. All the unorganized militia keeps proving is that they are worthless to the security of our free States.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and Regulate them Well!

States have a right to their own security and to organize their own militias.

Why do gun lovers object to becoming organized and more useful as State Guard (militia) or State National Guard (militia)? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and have no need to complain about gun control laws meant for the unorganized militia as individual persons that are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Right wingers seem disingenuous when complaining about gun control laws meant for unorganized militia as individual citizens (persons) in any of our free States.

I vehemently disagree. We The People both individually and collectively have been endowed with the right, by our Creator, to defend ourselves from the State and its progressive corruption. Your words are highly misleading and misinterpretation of our Founding Father's intent. Your thoroughly wrong interpretation of our Second Amendment would have had the British confiscating firearms from our Revolutionary Founders. Under you misunderstanding America never would have existed.

Our First Amendment is first not second. You already have the natural right to defense of self and property as Individuals.

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.[1]

Our Second Amendment is clearly about the security of our free States not any form of Individual right to keep and bear Arms.

The proof is, only well regulated militias of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security needs of their State or the Union.

You are absolutely ridiculous. Stop making stuff up.

You are even more ridiculous for only knowing how to appeal to ignorance of the law and indulging in right-wing fantasy, where you are Always Right.

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners, from generational hunters to target shooters and even the little old lady who lives alone in the ghetto and seeks a gun for protection. H.R. 127 is a direct attack on all decent American Citizens and another front opened in our government's war against We The People.

In my opinion, this Act would never have been necessary if gun lovers could be trusted with their guns to begin with. Right wingers cannot keep blaming the black market or only criminals having guns for the security problems we have seen even recently. All the unorganized militia keeps proving is that they are worthless to the security of our free States.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and Regulate them Well!

States have a right to their own security and to organize their own militias.

Why do gun lovers object to becoming organized and more useful as State Guard (militia) or State National Guard (militia)? Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and have no need to complain about gun control laws meant for the unorganized militia as individual persons that are subject to the police power of their State.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Right wingers seem disingenuous when complaining about gun control laws meant for unorganized militia as individual citizens (persons) in any of our free States.

I vehemently disagree. We The People both individually and collectively have been endowed with the right, by our Creator, to defend ourselves from the State and its progressive corruption. Your words are highly misleading and misinterpretation of our Founding Father's intent. Your thoroughly wrong interpretation of our Second Amendment would have had the British confiscating firearms from our Revolutionary Founders. Under you misunderstanding America never would have existed.

Our First Amendment is first not second. You already have the natural right to defense of self and property as Individuals.

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.[1]

Our Second Amendment is clearly about the security of our free States not any form of Individual right to keep and bear Arms.

The proof is, only well regulated militias of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for the security needs of their State or the Union.

You are absolutely ridiculous. Stop making stuff up.

You are even more ridiculous for only knowing how to appeal to ignorance of the law and indulging in right-wing fantasy, where you are Always Right.

Just stop. Your ignorant.

 

[Utilitarian]

This is what should have happened:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

I guess that depends on what "maintenance and regulation" entail. Also, defending the nation and defending the state aren't the same. Sometimes, the people have to defend a nation against an oppressive state.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States. And, well regulated militia are a State's sovereign right secured by our Second Amendment.

That's true to an extent, but shouldn't citizens also have the right defend themselves against a corrupt state government? The feds are a threat to both citizens and states, but states themselves can also be a threat to citizens.

 

[danielpalos]

This is what should have happened:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

I guess that depends on what "maintenance and regulation" entail. Also, defending the nation and defending the state aren't the same. Sometimes, the people have to defend a nation against an oppressive state.

Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States. And, well regulated militia are a State's sovereign right secured by our Second Amendment.

That's true to an extent, but shouldn't citizens also have the right defend themselves against a corrupt state government? The feds are a threat to both citizens and states, but states themselves can also be a threat to citizens.

Of course they do. Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process. States also have the equivalent to our First Amendment regarding petitions for redress of grievances.

 

[justinacolmena]

H.R. 127 is a clear and overt effort by our federal lawmakers to disarm, catalogue and demonize all law abiding American gun owners,

They've already done that.