Gun registration...yes, the democrats want it, yes, they want to use it to ban and confiscate guns....

[bigrebnc1775]

Do you have a right to murder someone
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Talking gibberish you need to translate

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Untrue. Can you name any other right that has no restrictions on it? (hint: copyright, libel and slander vs 1st)


Again untrue. The freedom of assembly is restricted by states and localities when they require permits for concerts and parades.

Do you even know what a right is?

A right is something that cannot be legally denied, such as the rights to free speech, press, religion, and raising a family. A privilege is something that can be given and taken away and is considered to be a special advantage or opportunity that is available only to certain people.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

All guns must be registered with the local police.

You register your gun an get a security permit for the gun
can get a home security permit
You can get a carry permit
If you are caught with a firearm in public without a permit for the gun you are fined $10,000
If you are caught a second time in public with a gun, you are fined $10,000, the gun is confiscated, and you are forbidden to buy a gun for life.

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You need to live in a fascist country that fits your life style. Pig.

 

[Blues Man]

I believe the success rate is way lower than with guns.


Anyone in their right mind, yes. My father was depressed about a medical issue and tried suicide by pills but failed. He ended up living happy and healthy for another 20 years. If he'd used a gun...

So you assume everyone who might choose to commit suicide is somehow mentally ill?

That's not necessarily true.

 

[Blues Man]

Suicidal tendencies are a mental illness. If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts express your thoughts with a friend who may be able to relieve your friend of these thoughts.

If this is not helping, make an appointment with a Doctor.

Just a friendly suggestion

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Not necessarily true.

I would always try to talk someone out of suicide but I realize the choice is ultimately theirs not mine. But then again the people who are the most serious about committing suicide don't tell anyone.

 

[alang1216]

Nope...those permits are for using a public space where more than one group may want to use the space on the same day, and it also allows the town or city time to get police and public works involved.....

The permit you are talking about is a prior restraint on the exercise of a Right...that is unConstitutional.

I fail to see the distinction. Both require following guidelines for proper use before the right can be exercised.

The right of the people peaceably to assemble can be denied by a locality if there is a valid public safety reason. Why is bearing arms any different?

 

[alang1216]

A right is something that cannot be legally denied, such as the rights to free speech, press, religion, and raising a family. A privilege is something that can be given and taken away and is considered to be a special advantage or opportunity that is available only to certain people.

You need to go back to law school for a refresher since that is absolutely not true. The right of the people peaceably to assemble can be denied if it conflicts with the rights of others, namely their safety.

 

[Blues Man]

Untrue. Can you name any other right that has no restrictions on it? (hint: copyright, libel and slander vs 1st)


Again untrue. The freedom of assembly is restricted by states and localities when they require permits for concerts and parades.

Do you even know what a right is?

You can assemble on private property with no permits.

The use of public property for any reason may require a permit due to expected crowd sizes and impacts on local traffic and businesses etc but there are no permits required if you and some of your family and friends want to "assemble" at a public park for a picnic.

Can you tell me what other rights enumerated in the Constitution require people to pay for and attend a class, to apply and pay a fee for a permit that has to be renewed annually as people have to do in many states for their guaranteed right to keep and bear firearms?

If your state required you to pay for and attend a class and pay a fee for a permit BEFORE you could exercise your rights to free speech or practice a religion would you be OK with that?

If your state required you to pay for and attend classes and pay fees for a permits BEFORE you could claim protection of your rights under the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments would you be OK with that?

How about a being required to pay for and attend a class and pay for a permit before every single election? You'd be OK with that too right?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You need to go back to law school for a refresher since that is absolutely not true. The right of the people peaceably to assemble can be denied if it conflicts with the rights of others, namely their safety.

You need to know the definition of a right and privilege
Rights are rights and cannot be infringed on privileges are grant by the government.

 

[Blues Man]

You need to go back to law school for a refresher since that is absolutely not true. The right of the people peaceably to assemble can be denied if it conflicts with the rights of others, namely their safety.

And how does it conflict with the rights of others if that assembly is held on private property?

When and how would any assembly conflict with the rights of another person?

 

[alang1216]

You need to know the definition of a right and privilege
Rights are rights and cannot be infringed on privileges are grant by the government.

You're either very ignorant or very delusional. There are no absolute rights in the constitution, every one comes with restrictions. That is why we have a SCOTUS.

 

[alang1216]

And how does it conflict with the rights of others if that assembly is held on private property?

When and how would any assembly conflict with the rights of another person?

The road to Woodstock, 1969:

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You need to know the definition of a right and privilege
Rights are rights and cannot be infringed on privileges are grant by the government.

You need to know that the regulation of firearms consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence does not constitute ‘infringement.’

The Second Amendment right is not unlimited; it is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

Government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on the Second Amendment right consistent with its case law.

Second Amendment ‘absolutism’ is as ignorant as it is wrongheaded.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Gun registration...yes, the democrats want it, yes, they want to use it to ban and confiscate guns....

This is as much a lie now as it was last February – just as wrong, ignorant, and baseless.

Gun registration is perfectly lawful and Constitutional; it fails as a slippery slope fallacy to claim that gun registration results in ‘bans’ and ‘confiscations.’

And it is a lie to claim that Democrats seek to ‘ban’ or ‘confiscate’ guns.

What is true is that conservatives are liars and demagogues – this thread is further proof of that.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You need to know that the regulation of firearms consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence does not constitute ‘infringement.’

The Second Amendment right is not unlimited; it is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.

Government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on the Second Amendment right consistent with its case law.

Second Amendment ‘absolutism’ is as ignorant as it is wrongheaded.

Ok dumbass what does the right to keep and bear arms shall not be in fringed mean in context with regulations?
You do not have any comprehension of the bill of rights

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You're either very ignorant or very delusional. There are no absolute rights in the constitution, every one comes with restrictions. That is why we have a SCOTUS.

Ok so slavery can be reinstituted?
Voting rights can be taken away?
The right to redress the government can be taken away?
The government can create a state mandated religion?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This is as much a lie now as it was last February – just as wrong, ignorant, and baseless.

Gun registration is perfectly lawful and Constitutional; it fails as a slippery slope fallacy to claim that gun registration results in ‘bans’ and ‘confiscations.’

And it is a lie to claim that Democrats seek to ‘ban’ or ‘confiscate’ guns.

What is true is that conservatives are liars and demagogues – this thread is further proof of that.

Well liar you need to get on the same page as with your fellow gun grabbing sons of a bitch democrats. This way you will not longer look like a horses ass

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The road to Woodstock, 1969:

Private proprety

 

[2aguy]

I fail to see the distinction. Both require following guidelines for proper use before the right can be exercised.

The right of the people peaceably to assemble can be denied by a locality if there is a valid public safety reason. Why is bearing arms any different?

Not even close........requiring a permit simply to own a gun is an infringement on the Right...requiring a permit to access a community space where competing groups might want to use it is simply time management.....

This would be the same...requiring a permit to print an article, become a journalist or write a book ......that would be the same as requiring a permit to own a gun....

Do you think you should have to get a permit to write a book? An article in a newspaper or magazine? to publish a pamphlet?

 

[2aguy]

I fail to see the distinction. Both require following guidelines for proper use before the right can be exercised.

The right of the people peaceably to assemble can be denied by a locality if there is a valid public safety reason. Why is bearing arms any different?

Nope...they allowed Socialists, the nazis to march through a Jewish neighborhood here in Illinois.......they have, in the past, allowed democrat party kkk members to march in various locations here in illinois....both were met with counter protestors.....yet they could not be stopped from marching.