Gun registration...yes, the democrats want it, yes, they want to use it to ban and confiscate guns....

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 16, 2022

alang1216 said:
Every government can and does. At least here on Earth.

Only fascist Nazi communist controlled countries do that

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 16, 2022

alang1216 said:
The picture was a public road blocked by people going to Woodstock.

Was it a public road? Are you sure?

alang1216 · Oct 16, 2022

bigrebnc1775 said:
Only fascist Nazi communist controlled countries do that

Can you site any country that is different?

alang1216 · Oct 16, 2022

bigrebnc1775 said:
Was it a public road? Are you sure?

Yes.

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 16, 2022

alang1216 said:
Can you site any country that is different?

Anerica is not supposed to be if not for fascist democrats we wouldn't be. But we're taking back the loses we had in the 20th century.

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 16, 2022

alang1216 said:
Yes.

What was the name of the road?

alang1216 · Oct 16, 2022

bigrebnc1775 said:
Anerica is not supposed to be if not for fascist democrats we wouldn't be. But we're taking back the loses we had in the 20th century.

You're a delusion ideolog. There was never a time in the US when there were no libel/slander restrictions on the 1st. Every right has ALWAYS come with restrictions and the Dems are no more responsible than the GOP or the Whigs.

alang1216 · Oct 16, 2022

bigrebnc1775 said:
What was the name of the road?

West Shore Road

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 16, 2022

alang1216 said:
You're a delusion ideolog. There was never a time in the US when there were no libel/slander restrictions on the 1st. Every right has ALWAYS come with restrictions and the Dems are no more responsible than the GOP or the Whigs.

So using your dogma voting can be restricted like showing an ID to vote.
There is no restriction on the first amendment. You can say what ever you want to say nothing to stop you.
So tell me what does infringe mean?

alang1216 · Oct 16, 2022

bigrebnc1775 said:
So using your dogma voting can be restricted like showing an ID to vote.

Of course it can. Should it is another issue altogether.

bigrebnc1775 said:
There is no restriction on the first amendment. You can say what ever you want to say nothing to stop you.
So tell me what does infringe mean?

Infringe means that if you lie about a tragic event and people get hurt you will have to pay them nearly $1 billion. I guess Alex Jones' free speech is not so free.

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 17, 2022

alang1216 said:
Of course it can. Should it is another issue altogether.

Infringe means that if you lie about a tragic event and people get hurt you will have to pay them nearly $1 billion. I guess Alex Jones' free speech is not so free.

You're really confused infringed is defined as

Definition of infringe

transitive verb
1: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another infringe a patent
2obsolete : DEFEAT, FRUSTRATE

So with that said when you have a binding contract that states "shall not be infringed" would mean that any infringement would violate the law and civil rights.

LuckyDuck · Oct 17, 2022

2aguy said:
A great column by John Lott on the democrats creating a gun registration list, why they want it, why it doesn't even work when they have it in various states and other countries...

Countries such as Canada, the U.K., and Australia aren't the only ones to use registration to ban and confiscate guns. California, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. have also used registration to know who legally owned different types of guns before banning them.

Conducting background checks to see if someone can legally buy a gun is different from the government keeping a searchable record of those who own guns. Indeed, federal law has always required that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System erase background check information within 24 hours of its completion.

Gun control activists push for registration as a way to solve crime. In theory, if criminals leave registered guns at a crime scene, they can then be traced back to the perpetrator. But in real life, a gun is usually left at the scene of a crime only when the gunman has been seriously injured or killed. Also, guns used in crimes are rarely registered. In the exceedingly unusual instances that they are, they aren't registered to the person who committed the crime. However, with both the criminal and weapon present at the scene, police can solve these crimes even without registration.

In a 2001 lawsuit, the Pennsylvania state police could not identify any crimes solved by their registration system from 1901 to 2001; however they did claim that it had "assisted" in a total of four cases, for which they could provide no details.

In a 2013 deposition for District of Columbia v. Heller II, the plaintiffs recorded that the Washington, D.C. police chief could not "recall any specific instance where registration records were used to determine who committed a crime, except for possession offenses."

During testimony before the Hawaii State Senate in 2000, Honolulu’s police chief stated that he couldn't find any crimes that had been solved due to registration and licensing. The chief also said that his officers devoted about 50,000 hours to registering and licensing guns each year. This is time that could have been spent on traditional, time-tested law enforcement activities.

New York and Maryland spent tens of millions of dollars putting together a computer database on all new guns sold in the past 15 years, even recording the ballistic fingerprint of each gun. But even these states, which strongly favor gun control, eventually abolished their systems because they never solved a single crime.

In 2010, Canada conducted a detailed examination of its program. It found that, from 2003 to 2009, 1,314 out of 4,257 Canadian homicides involved firearms. Of the identified weapons, about three-quarters were not registered. Among registered weapons, the registered owner was rarely the person accused of the homicide. In just 62 cases – only 4.7 percent of all firearm homicides – was the gun registered to the accused, and an unknown number of these homicide cases involve instances of self-defense. But the Royal Canadian Mounted Police failed to identify any cases where registration was integral to solving the crime.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/02/04/democrats_pushing_gun_registry_as_precursor_to_gun_ban_147139.html

The new policy requiring banks to put special codes on purchases of guns via credit cards, is in effect a registration of firearms.

alang1216 · Oct 17, 2022

bigrebnc1775 said:
You're really confused infringed is defined as

Definition of infringe

transitive verb
1: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another infringe a patent
2obsolete : DEFEAT, FRUSTRATE

So with that said when you have a binding contract that states "shall not be infringed" would mean that any infringement would violate the law and civil rights.

You may live in your ideological utopia but in the real world EVERY right comes with limitations and SCOTUS has not yet struck them all down since every right infringes on others.

bigrebnc1775 · Oct 17, 2022

alang1216 said:
You may live in your ideological utopia but in the real world EVERY right comes with limitations and SCOTUS has not yet struck them all down since every right infringes on others.

I just gave you the definition of infringed. You're being illogical if you think shall not be infringed means you can infringe on something.

Blues Man · Oct 17, 2022

alang1216 said:
If my wife was about to give birth I'd be very upset if I couldn't drive her to the hospital. Public roads support ambulances, fire trucks, police cars, and buses and people's jobs, health, and safety depend on them. What about their rights?

Ifs and buts are no different than candy and nuts.

Calling a traffic jam that happened decades ago an example of violation of rights is the mother of all stretches. I hoped you warmed up before posting that because if you didn't you probably hurt yourself.

And Why have you not responded to this post yet?